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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:53 PM
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Support the troops--unless it hurts B*sh's chance for re-election...
...in which case, by God, throw 'em to the wolves.

That's what the Republican position looks like, from where I stand. I don't know how much confidence to place in an anonymous letter. But read this from Hack's site, and see what you think:

05-10-2004
Prison Abuse: An MI Officer Sounds Off

Hack,

The abuse and humiliation actually took place at 3 prisons in the Baghdad area. This was not done by accident, it was a planned, systematic way to break down the prisoners will to resist any interrogation, degrade them and then blackmail them into working for US Intelligence.
The pictures were taken as a way to intimidate the prisoner and then keep them working as low level collectors (if they did not the pictures would have been released to their family and tribes) Videos were also made as a way to record the "success" to be used as a teaching tool at Fort Huachuca (to train future interrogators). The MPs and Interrogators were told the Geneva Convention did not apply to Iraq Soldiers and Civilian Detainees. The methods the MPs used were actually taught to the MPs by military intelligence professionals and civilian contractors. This was a sanctioned operation and the methods were known to be used by Generals in the chain of command. Women MPs were sought out to further humiliate the Iraqi prisoners. The female MPs who accepted the jobs, conducted degrading acts upon the Iraq men, because such acts by women on men in the Arab culture are so humiliating, it was thought that the men would then talk just to stop the abuse by the female MPs. This abuse was done in stages and the less cooperative Iraqis were given the more degrading abuse to condition them to interrogation. The Major General (Barbara Fast) in charge of the MI personnel in Baghdad sanctioned this treatment.

Hack, if they are going to hang privates and NCOs for meting out this abuse, they better go after the Generals and Colonels who sanctioned and approved these methods be use. This is a not an isolated cace of abuse my a few soldiers, this was a planned campaign well know by the entire chain of command. There is also evidence that people in the Pentagon also knew and approved of these methods many months prior to the pictures being relased and only told the President when the pictures were published.
The DOD is now trying to pin the blame on anything else, other than the Generals amd Colonels who sanctioned this treatment.

MI Senior NCO

http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Hacks%20Target%20Feedback%202004.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=13&rnd=491.73960320330906
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:43 PM
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1. This needs corroboration before it is believed.
Yes, it is entirely believable. But it can also be a hoax -- even a Freeper hoax to 'catch' us.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 04:27 PM
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2. It's either tragically authentic or a Rovian trap. But, if it's real...
...eventually, documented/substantiated information will come out. In the mean time, if you're brave enough to take a walk on the dark side, you'll see that the fr**pers have Lynndie and the others all but strung up, while everyone above the Karpinski is utterly innocent.
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