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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 11:11 AM
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Berg Murder what I see
Berg Murder what I see

1. Completely shrouded in controversy. Obvious discrepancies by the State Department and the FBI, and news accounts coming out of Iraq. It even challenges rational thinking. Too much fodder for conspiracy theories. This is definitely going to polarize sentiments of the population. We are about to start hearing “These conspiracy types” being uttered from the mouths of RW politicians and Freepers alike.

2. A clear warning to any journalist about to set out in Iraq to find first hand accounts from Iraqis that were abused at the prison. This story even has the contract construction workers clamoring to come home.

3. Then the release of the Berg / 911 links. They have framed Berg as “Bad Guy” meaning he got what he deserved. His family as the enemy don’t listen to any thing they say.

This is all just too well designed to polarize the country and justify what is happening in Iraq. Even scarier still it is the beginning the lead for arrest and political detainees here in the US. This also comes at a time when that man was arrested in Portland for a partial finger print in the Madrid bombings.

Bushita propaganda has always been designed to polarize and divide this country. These folks don’t believe they can fool all the people all of the time
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 11:15 AM
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1. Yup
Pretty much sums it up from where I sit too.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 11:18 AM
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2. Didn't the US military bomb a hotel in Iraq during the first few weeks...
...of occupation there that was filled with U.S. and foreign journalists? That was swept under the rug also. I believe that there is something below the surface of this whole Berg tragedy that should cause the American public to wake-up before it is too late.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 11:37 AM
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5. Yes and even more..
a tank shot at Hotel Bagdad and killed several journalist with a 20mil machine gun. I remember seeing the video.

Also the UN was bombed (by resistence fighters supposedly) and the UN decided to leave giving the US frre reign in Iraq. Does a falling tree make a sound if no one is there to hear it.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 11:19 AM
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3. that is what i have kid of been thinkin
Edited on Fri May-14-04 11:20 AM by SheepyMcSheepster
this video and the story is too weird to hold water, if someone intelligent was involved in these things and if it was disinformation, they would be sure not to make the obvious descrepencies so obvious. my thoughts are that people who would carry out "black-ops" stuff would realise that they could fool most with a simple video/story, but maybe they go the extra mile to make peices not fit as to fuel "consipiracy theorists" thus dividing the population.

who knows, i am not saying believe that "our people" had something to do with this, just that if they did either they are very stupid or very smart.

weird stuff.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 11:34 AM
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4. The Berg video has same effect as Iraqi abuse photos
Look at the warning....this can happen to you

Don't you find it very interseting the phsycological effect the process of being branded a "conspiracy theorist" has. Also in light of the murder the real life effects have been raised. It even has me getting nervous about posting my own opinion any more
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 11:56 AM
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6. Well, as more comes to light...
...yes, that's the "message": This can happen to you. And as importantly: This can happen to you as a direct result of Bush's failures and incompetence.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:00 PM
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7. yes indeed. i am pretty much biting my tongue concerning the berg affair.
it seems many here fail to realise that this administration and its minions are a deceitful bunch, this is very obvious. but if you even consider that there is foul play involved with the berg killing you are considered a "conspiracy theorist" despite the fact that there are some very strange circumstances here and conflicting "official" statements.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:12 PM
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9. So what I am saying IS
So if the murder is conducted by the Islamic Militants and the denial is US Forces holding Berg true, then why does the FBI toss out the 911 link to Berg. It obviously cast him in a different light to say the least.

The 911 link ranks Berg and those offering differnet opinions of what actually happened as Terrorist.

Then take it one step further

So Berg is offed by a CIA death squad and the whole thing is set up to look like it does. The 911 link turns the "Conspiracy Theorist" a new title of terrorist.

Terrorist or Terrorist sympathiser is an increasing term I am hearing talk show host and callers to their shows refer to any one who opposes the war, and Democratic leaders who call for an investigation into Iraqi Abuse charges.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:02 PM
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8. That's how I'm seeing it, too.
On a certain level, a level that still allows them to get away with it, they want us to know.

And they will get away with it, because who in the US media has the courage and freedom to allow the possibility of their guilt?

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Nadienne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:16 PM
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10. Regarding point number two
Couldn't the Bush administration use this as a wedge to push for gag orders on unfavorable news coverage of the war?
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:20 PM
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13. Yes they could argue for a Gag Order
about the abuse scandal. I am sure you will hear that come up pretty soon in the news

Loose lips sink ships

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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:17 PM
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11. the video screams, 'see, this is what we're fighting, animals'
it came out the day of taguba's tesitmony on torturegate. jonah goldberg just said it's proves we are better than them. it looks like a hideous photo op to counteract our nazi behavior.

just an observation, i don't want to state an actual opinion, cause it's just too damn early after the event
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:18 PM
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12. If Berg was a part of 9/11, why make it look like those he helped killed
him?

And where's Johnie Taliban Walker Lyndh whateverhisnameis? Will he soon die too?
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:23 PM
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14. I think the 911 link was more to say
Edited on Fri May-14-04 12:25 PM by FreakinDJ
Berg was a bad guy and should have not been there in the first place.

More or less he got what he deserved in spite of what the FBI did or did not do
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