Illusions of job growth ... expose' of more lies and the lying liars.

[Pepperbelly]

-snip-

Back in the March employment report, the government added 153,000 positions to its revised total of 337,000 new jobs because it thought (but couldn't prove) loads of new companies were being created in this economy.



That estimate comes from the Labor Department's "birth/death model." You can look up these numbers on the Department's Web site.


http://www.nypost.com/business/23936.htm

Smoke and mirrors, illusions ... hey, rube, come here a minute...

[KG]

1. i read reports of new jobs being created, but is seems no mention

or tally of made of jobs that were lost or eliminated.

makes it sorta hard to get a hadle on if there is a net gain of jobs.

also, no mention of the kind of jobs created. i see plenty of fast food places being built in my area. those are new jobs, but they they don't pay living wages.

[Pepperbelly]

2. I think this guy's point is that ...

there were many fewer jobs created than Bush's DOL claimed. It would therefore be very tough to quantify and sort the types, salaries, etc. when they have no reality to them to begin with.

[teryang]

3. Companies are laying off workers

...outsourcing and finding other ways to replace workers either with automation or part time workers with no benefits.

I never believed the March report or the current one. I'm highly skilled, I've been out of work for five months. Whenever I'm in contention for a position, I lose it to a younger person with no experience who'll work for tens of thousands less. Then I hear back through the grapevine, these employees are "not doing well." When I offer to take jobs for tens of thousands less, just for something to do, I still can't get hired. They want only the lowest wage person they can get and if it means high turnover, they don't care.

[Pepperbelly]

5. I talk to business owners for a living ...

and I am hearing real desperation in their voices and their stories. Day in and day out. The best I hear from them is that business is spotty; good for a day then bad for a week.

[Brian_Expat]

4. Just ask yourself when they talk about new jobs. . .

. . . do you see those jobs being formed in your industry or your local community?

In my business, layoffs continue state-side. I'm hard pressed to think of industries that are growing and adding new jobs, apart from low-end part-time jobs that don't pay a living wage (like fast food or WalMart).

If it doesn't make sense, it's not true. Always keep your bullshit-o-meter on. :)

[spanone]

6. Lying is a way of life for this administration. why not lie about jobs?

By the time we find out the truth the election and w*s second term will be over. Only if we allow it to happen.

[Eric J in MN]

7. Are any other reporters questioning the job figures for April?

Are any other reporters questioning the job figures for April?

I'd like more info on this.