Repeat after me: "McCain is a Republican, not a Democrat."

[Padraig18]

Maybe it will sink in through some thick skulls by virtue of sheer repetition, although I'm not optimistic. :eyes:

[skooooo]

1. Thank you!

That reaffirms my experience.

[KittyWampus]

2. I'm Sick Of GD Getting Spammed With McCain/Berg Video Threads

it's getting worse then useless.

[Zorra]

3. Here are some examples of McCain's Voting Record:

Though the media has been labeling presidential hopeful John McCain a "liberal", his ADA voting record tells a different story. With a lifetime rating of 9%, National Director Amy Isaacs said, "It is a great defamation of our character to call John McCain a liberal. The very few places he has voted for the 'liberal' position just go to show a person can't be wrong all the time." The only area where McCain's voting record is even in the moderate range, with a 45% voting record, is in the area of campaign finance, which brought him to the spotlight in the first place (the McCain/Feingold bill being a well-known good bill on campaign finance). On such valued ADA issues as Education, Housing, and Social Security, McCain scored a 0%. Listed below are the three candidates with ADA voting records, side by side for comparison. A full voting record of individual votes can be obtained from ADA, although it is quite lengthy.

Statistics from the ADA:

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~nycada/newnews/news0003-2.html

Project Vote Smart

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=S0061103

ACLU

http://archive.aclu.org/vote-guide/239.html

Daily Kos

On the other hand, he's, what do you call them... a Republican. His 2002 ratings, with Kerry's in parenthesis:

Americans for Democratic Action (liberal): 20 (85)
ACLU: 0 (60)
AFSCME (labor): 29 (88)
LCV (environmental): 41 (94)
Concord (pro-balanced budget): 95 (65)
National Taxpayer's Union (anti-tax): 75 (18)
Chamber of Commerce: 79 (55)
Christian Coalition: 79 (55)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/4/3/213110/5512

McCain has an ACU lifetime voting record of 84% which makes him more conservative than any Democrat in the Senate. He supported tax cuts, supported a ban on partial birth abortion and supported the appointment of judicial nominees by President Bush.

http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0404/0404veepstakes2.h...

[Gin]

4. who keeps promoting this idea of McCain for VP? It won't be him..

it sounds like we can't find a good democratic candidate....enuff already!

[w13rd0]

20. Who is promoting this idea?

My guess is the DLC, they figure the time is right to remove the sheepskin.

[DFLer4edu]

5. Thank You!!!

[Padraig18]

6. Kick for REAL Democrats!

:dem:

[arwalden]

7. What Are McCain's Views On Roe-v-Wade and Equal-Marriage-Rights?

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

15. Anti-Roe v. Wade, no official position on gay marriage

Roe v. Wade:

"McCain said he thought Roe v. Wade should be overturned and said he would support exceptions to a ban on abortion in cases of rape, incest, and when the mother’s life is in danger."
Source: Boston Globe, p. A11 Jan 22, 2000

Equal marriage rights:

According to dontamend.com, "(McCain) has not taken an official position, but he believes that marriage should be between a man and a woman."

The site also points out McCain has been divorced.

[arwalden]

16. Thanks SWMBO!! --- McCain's OUT for Veep... Okay for a cabinet position

if that's what Kerry wants.

-- Allen

[JohnLocke]

8. New Forum Idea

Berg/McCain Forum -- All Burg, all McCain, all the time. :eyes:

[KharmaTrain]

9. Step Outside For A Sec...

There's no way McCain would either be selected or accept a Kerry VP nomination unless under dire circumstances (Bunnypants has messed everything up THAT bad).

By "floating" (the term CNN used earlier this week) Kerry & McCain, it serves both in reaching to the disenchanted middle that's growing out there...and that both of their polling is showing. Moderate and "True" Conservative Repugnicans, Independents and so on that still aren't gonna go for Kerry, but sure will listen to McCain. Obviously, Kerry gains by their close association and that McCain has protected his flank from the right wing (take a look from the wingnut side of things).

McCain gains as he's in the best position to pick up the GOOP pieces when a BFEE implosion occurs. If this race plays out like '92 did, the knives will be out soon as the Rove faction blames the Perle faction who blames the Christian Fundies who blame the Big Money GOOPers and so on. The more this war looks like Vietnam, the better it is for both Kerry & McCain, and the inevitable comparison.

Right now we need all the bridges and friends we can make. Thing have started to look our way, but there's a long, long way to go and a lot of strange twists are ahead. Most of the rhetoric you hear spun around here these days is going to look pretty silly in two months.

Cheers!

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

10. McCain is a Republican, not a Democrat

He is NOT what Kerry is going to want on his ticket.

And we don't want him there, either.

Apparently HE doesn't want to be on it, either.

That settles that, move along folks, nothing to see here.

[Duncan Grant]

11. Thank you Padriag18!

McCain? :eyes:

No more republican-lite! Let it end now.

[Paragon]

12. McCain is a Republican, not a Democrat.

Still, I'd rather have him on my side than not.

[soup]

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[Cessna Invesco Palin]

14. What does Kerry have to gain?

C'mon, guys... *Think* for a second instead of just yelling: Why, oh why, is this whole McCain thing happening? Why would it be beneficial for Kerry to have McCain being talked about as VP? Well, for one thing, McCain has strong crossover appeal. A lot of Democrats like him. He's considered a moderate by most Americans. Now, what does this do for Kerry? It makes him look like a moderate. They are floating the idea that he would consider McCain for VP for one reason only - to improve Kerry's image as a moderate and distance himself from being labeled a "Taxachusetts liberal" Now does this mean he'd choose McCain as VP? No, not at all. There isn't a snowball's chance in hell of that ever happening. He doesn't *have* to pick McCain as VP to achieve what he wants. He only has to let it be known that "it's being considered" in order to let people know he's a moderate, that he will try to work with both parties, etc.

This whole McCain thing is just an exercise in improving Kerry's image with swing voters. I don't know why you guys are all up in arms about it. It's actually kind of funny. Kerry has appropriated McCain's image without even having McCain as a supporter! It's quite brilliant, really.

[Hippo_Tron]

17. Yes, the key word is REPUBLICAN

And Republicans don't belong on the DEMOCRATIC ticket. Lincoln Chafee may be more liberal than half of the Democrats in the senate but he is still a REPUBLICAN and even he would not be acceptable for the DEMOCRATIC ticket, let alone John McCain.

[seabeyond]

18. bah ha ha ha

that is funny. k............mccain=republican

kerry=democrat

got it
thanks

[ibegurpard]

19. Irrelevant

McCain has stated CATEGORICALLy in the past few days that he's working to help re-elect George Bush and he's also the co-chair of Arizona's Bush re-election committee. That puts him in the same league as Zell Miller, a DEMOCRAT who has gone on the record as saying he wants to get Bush re-elected.

[Padraig18]

22. I know!

So why do FOOLS like Biden keep floating his name? :puke:

[boxster]

21. I think we need to acknowledge that some people will not let

a story die, no matter how ludicrous it is.

If we all agree to ignore the "Oh my God, let's nominate McCain for VP to unite the world!!!" threads, they will hopefully just wither away.

On a related note, my favorite argument stated by the pro-McCain-VP crowd is that it'll influence the independents and undecideds.

Well, yes, there's that. At the same time, it'll piss off a huge portion of the Democratic base if for no other reason than that McCain is pro-life.

Uh, oops.