SO...what becomes of DU if/when Kerry wins?

[dolo amber]

Do we all stick around a while, bask in the glory, then slowly go back to what our lives were when they were *normal*? Do those among us who were blissfully apathetic during the Clinton years return to that state? Or has too much changed for us to ever go back?

I'm sure that even with Dems in office, there will always be plenty to bitch about (;)), but at what level do you think the discourse will continue?

I personally feel that things have shifted irrevocably. I fear the *crusades* will continue, be they towards our own leaders or whichever *brown heathens* they decide to target next. I can't imagine this place not being here for us to gather and get/share info, whine, unravel the VRWC, bitch, grieve, rage, and celebrate.

What say you? :hi:

[kentuck]

1. I doubt the right-wing assassins are going away...

Kerry and the Democrats will need all the help they can get, would be my guess...

[NMDemDist2]

2. on Nov 2, i'm headed for the lounge

and plan to stay there til feb 05 :)

at that point i'll take a look around and see what i see and decide then :beer:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. Eterenal vigilance is the price of freedom

The neocons will be in full attack mode when Kerry wins. They will try anything-and everything-to discredit him and to stop any meaningful legislation being enacted in Congress. We'll be needed more than ever once Kerry is in the White House, to counter the BS that the Repukes will be ladeling out.

[freetobegay]

4. We are not even in office & look at the bitching going on about Dems!

[theo4487]

7. There are aways the battles of..

abortion rights and gay marriage. We will also need to stay here to defend Democrats from the Republican bitching once the good party is in office.

[Walt Starr]

31. DU has been bitching about the Dems since day one

and I say, that's a good thing!

[mot78]

5. DU won't go away

Although DU was created in reaction to Selection 2000, we need a grassroots presence to be viable against the Repukes. Plus, DeLay, Jeb, and Frist will still cause us trouble.

[jrthin]

6. Did freepers go away when

the now pResident was selected?

[dolo amber]

13. I don't really think DU will "go away"....

I just more wonder what sort of participation there will be. I mean, will it remain as strong as it is, or will people slowly fall back asleep?

[7th_Sephiroth]

8. the house and senate will prollt be neo-con controlled still

and will work up impeachment procedings every time he farts

[myomy]

9. ThereÕs no doubt that the repugs will have an Òimpeachment of the weekÓ

campaign going at full speed.

[bluestateguy]

10. I will probably leave after the election

If Bush wins I'm going to withdraw from politics for a year or two to get back my sanity.

If Kerry wins, as far as I am concerned my work here will have been accomplished. I am sure that as soon as Kerry's hand is removed from the Bible there will be people who bash him from the Left. I just won't have time to put up with that shit.

But for now, let's win the election first.

[Morning Dew]

14. and after we win

we get to remind the freepers that supporting President Kerry is the patriotic thing to do... that's gonna be so sweet.

[ulysses]

11. I expect that it'll be quieter around here.

On my more optimistic days, I can make myself believe that most folks aren't going to drift off and assume that the world will magically become better. Those days don't come often.

[dolo amber]

20. Dang, uly...you went and wrote too fast!!

This should be a reply to post 13. :D ;)

[ulysses]

25. who knows?

Even if it's smaller in terms of sheer numbers, it may open the way for more substantive discussions and organization.

[NNN0LHI]

12. WE START CLEANING OUR OWN HOUSE OF TURNCOAT DEM'S!

Sorry for yelling. I don't know what came over me. But I stand by my statement. No more Zell Millers.

Don

[playahata1]

19. Yes, Don.

And those who say they are with us, but who are in reality against us.

[FailureIsNoOption]

40. Where have I heard that?

You are either with us or against us? Is it safe to use this phrase now? Is it devoid of baggage?

[playahata1]

15. A Kerry victory does not mean that liberals and other progressives

should stop working for true freedom, justice, and equality -- for all people. The fascists and freepers and fundies and fools and phonies will still be here, so liberals and other progressives must continue to do everything in their power to keep the fascists and freepers and fundies and fools and phonies from further fucking up and over this society and, by extension, humanity as a whole.

[oasis]

16. DU is an institution. Items of interest and importance will continue to

be debated here.

[LibDemAlways]

17. The evening of Kerry's inauguration, or even earlier, the

repukes will be setting in motion a plan to impeach him. This is what they do. Impeaching Democratic Presidents is as natural to them as breathing. The enemy Kerry fought in Vietnam wasn't as viscious and bent on destroying him as the repuke congress will be.

We here at DU will still have plenty to talk about.

[rocktivity]

18. Our work will not be done

Of course we'll have to help keep Kerry honest, groom his VP to be his successor in 2012, and ensure that American facism never shows its ugly face again. But our main duty will be getting the Bush regime into the Big House once we've gotten them out of the White House!

:headbang:
rocknation

[cheezus]

21. Alarm Clock

Bush was a wakeup
It had to get bad enough
Don't go back to sleep

[Lizz612]

22. I'll still be here

I've become more involved thanks to DU. I hear about political news stories before they break into the national news. I've met some wonderful people through DU. We'll still have plenty of republicans to hold up bills in congress. I'll still be here.

[Guaranteed]

23. Getting the presidency won't change much.

We've got a lot more work than just that to do. We have to take back Congress, protect the courts, and, more than anything, get back the airwaves.

The RW propaganda will continue. You can bet on that.

[leyton]

24. Midterm elections, and gubernatorial elections.

Plenty of states will elect a governor in 2005, and there are midterms in 2006.

[mourningdove92]

26. All one has to do is remember how President Clinton was

hounded and hounded and hounded. Believe me, we will have plenty of work to do when President Kerry takes office.

[napi21]

29. Boy are you right! I can imagine the planning now being formed

What stories can we float about the Kerry's to destroy his Presidency?

I'm sure, since Shrub's #'s have fallen and they have to recognize hi might not win, they are now working day and night to come up with plans to destroy Kerry.

DU will still be here, AFTER THE ELECTION CELEBRATION!

The only thing I can see making it unnecessary to have a DU is for the Dems to take the House, file criminal charges against Bush, Cheney, Rummy, & Ashcroft.....and WIN.

That should put an end to the BS from the extreme RW for a while. Problem, that kind of stuff takes a LONG TIME!

[wyldwolf]

27. I'll be here defending President elect Kerry against those here..

...who didn't want him to win and will do everything in their power to undermine his presidency.

[acmavm]

28. We got to the point we are today because after Nixon resigned, we

became complacent, our victories made us let down our guards. We thought we had won, and maybe we had. But because of that we just wrote politics off and went our own way, and quit paying as much attention to the really screwed up things that some politicians were pulling. The Orrin Hatches, Strom Thurmonds, AND George W.Bushes of the world made a sneaky come-back on the political scene and took over again. WE HAVE TO STAY AWAKE, AWARE, AND VIGILENT. Because if we defeat them this time, they will come back again, with the same old agenda but an even sneakier way of promoting it. They'll learn from this defeat. They'll pick a better candidate, one now quite so demonstrably ignorant as the one they chose this time. Or so openly corrupt.

[Walt Starr]

30. I'd say that November 3, 2004 is when the REAL work will begin

DU needs to learn a lesson from FR and hold Kerry's feet to the fire starting the day after he wins.

If it treats the Kerry administration like FR treated the Bush administration, it's doomed to obscurity, just like FR. FR became such an echo chamber over the past 3 years that many of those that built the place have moved on. All you get there now are "megadittoes" for anything Bush says or does.

Fortunately, progressives tend to be critical of their elected officials.

[Piperay]

32. The day after Kerry wins is the day his re-election

campaign needs to begin, we also have to work on getting a majority in Congress and ALWAYS be watching out for the lies and dirty tricks that will come from the other side. :think:

[dolo amber]

33. His re-election campaign

or Wes' presidential campaign? :7 ;)

Wes,:yourock:!!

Sorry, I get this way when I see those Kerry/Clark pics. :D

[Cleita]

34. You asked the question I was asking silently.

As long as the DU website is around, there will be a lot of work to do to get us on the right track again. There are environmental issues, social issues, education issues, race and gender issues and so many other issues to keep us busy, but we must also be vigilent that anything like Bush ever happens again. We can only do that if we all stick together through the good times as well as the bad.

[Jacobin]

35. IraqNam will continue to be a problem

The Dems will need to be forced by the underground to keep from letting Kerry to an "LBJ" in IraqNam.

I think it will remain vital.

[quinnox]

36. I'll take a break from DU

Whatever the result. I mainly took an interest in politics because of the 2000 election and also how terrible Bush has been as president, but if Kerry wins then I will still pay attention but won't be as interested in the daily politics.

If Bush wins, then I will be mad and will want to ignore politics for awhile too.

[Shopaholic]

37. Come on, we're Democrats----

we don't agree on much and even when we do agree, we have disagreements about whatever it is that we're agreeing on! Yes--there will always be a DU--if for no other reason than to ridicule our opponents!

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

38. Well damn I still have two stinking evil

Repuke senators of the worst order (Hutchinson and Cornyn) to usher out of office, so I will still need this place.

And while we're at it, I'll still need this place to help me and my fellow Texans color our state blue over the next several/few years.

[Lou_C]

39. We have Senate & Congressional seats to win back

It will get quiet but we have to keep the fight up.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

41. It will be needed. It must not go away. We need to stay friends, have

events, get togethers.

There will still be much work to do. If nothing else, to address congress issues, keep JK honest, and do everything we can to break up the RW media monopolies.

But we have to concentrate 100% effort on the first and most important task.

[Jose Diablo]

42. With the Dem's in office

DU will still be needed to help move the political center closer to progressive causes.

Health care needs work. Income tax reform to make the tax more progressive than now is definitely needed. Social Security needs work.

Federal government needs its spending priorities adjusted.

Energy policy is needed to implement solar, wind and TDP infrastructure to wean America away from imported oil and solve the growing problems of disposing waste and water air quality should be a priority. If what we have spent on Iraq had been spent on incentives to develop energy infrastructure we would be out of the energy threat now. What a waste. The neocons are so shortsighted.

Corporate reform is needed badly. The news media corporations are one reason the average American is so...shallow. Part of this problem is due to corporate control of news and media content.

Then the corporations using our military and intelligence assets for their benefit rather than the benefit of America is one reason we are hated so much around the world. We really need to reign-in these corporations and make them better citizens here and overseas.

The problems with electronic voting, individual rights and fair treatment, yes theres work needed there too.

I think there is enough work that needs to be done to keep DU a player for a long time to come.

After the November elections the real work begins to make our country into something the world and we can be proud of, rather than something to fear.

[TrogL]

43. There will be plenty of work

Freepers will do anything to do a "Clinton" on Kerry.

They will have to be closely watched.

[krkaufman]

44. Kerry landslide is just the first step...

... in getting the country back on track. There will forever be plenty of work to do.

[MrPrax]

45. More of the same? n/t

[John_H]

46. You meen after wishing the freeper trolls and Naderites will stick around

likethe non-wusses they ain't? We'll still have plenty of work to do. The Rethugs will try to block, derail, and ruin everything. We'll have to unearth the information to stop them, just like we will have unearthed the information that stopped Chimp.

[gate of the sun]

47. we then watch

and see if Kerry will "change" as many have perdicted and if not if he holds the line that doesn't represent us then we give him hell. If his Presidency is anything like his statements of late.....we will be moaning and groaning the loss of America.

[burrowowl]

48. We will have to start

moving the nation from a little less far right towards the center and who knows LEFT!

[Kickin_Donkey]

49. Are you kidding?

The right-wing and the media whores aren't going anywhere. After trying to "gore" Kerry during the campaign, they're going to try to "clinton" a President Kerry.

The battles will still be there. I imagine that DU won't be much different than it is now.

[Must_B_Free]

50. That's when we start attacking Kerry

and try to get him replaced by Kucinich.