ButterflyBlood
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Wed May-19-04 09:33 PM
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Poll question: Was Che Guevara a hero? |
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I'm curious what the more moderate folks here say. I've seen people bash him here before, which I find odd.
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Wed May-19-04 09:37 PM
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1. It seems clear, if you know his life history, that |
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he was neither power hungry nor venal, and he died fighting for what he believed in. How is that not a hero? OTOH, he clearly misjudged the situation in Bolivia.
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Wed May-19-04 09:41 PM
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4. well he was backstabbed by Castro |
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Wed May-19-04 09:43 PM
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5. Does that mean he's not a hero? nt |
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Wed May-19-04 09:44 PM
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I'm just referring to him misjudging the situation in Bolivia. It wasn't really his fault.
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Wed May-19-04 09:43 PM
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6. What is heroic about that? |
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Now, I'm thinking heroic in the Greek sense, not in the martyr Christian sense.
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Wed May-19-04 10:09 PM
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10. I don't think Che was a hero in the Homeric mode. |
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Not his style at all. He was a hero in the mode of a lot of Latin American heros, who fought for social equity and justice against long odds and mostly lost, and sometimes won, and were often stabbed in the back. A few of them might have measured up with Homeric heroes, Sandino in Nicaragua, l'Overture amd Desallines in Haiti, I could probably dig up a few more, but Che was not that sort of guy.
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Wed May-19-04 09:40 PM
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2. Of course he was......he was killed by the CIA |
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and Bolivian soldiers who were trained by the CIA. He was fighting the elitists, so he had to go.
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Wed May-19-04 09:40 PM
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3. Che was in Miami for a little while... |
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...I think he worked odd jobs and so forth. He met a lot of people in the Latino expatriate community. I guess Miami is full of upper middle class right-wing Cuban expatriates now, but when he visited it was less so, from my reading of one account he met with a lot of like-minded people.
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Wed May-19-04 09:46 PM
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8. Benicio del Toro will be playing "Che"... |
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...in a movie by that title directed by Steven Soderbergh. Should be fantastic. Remember, Del Toro won his Oscar for his performance in Traffic.
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Wed May-19-04 09:59 PM
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9. del Toro should be great. |
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And the movie should be a step up from Che! Omar Sharif was bad enough in the title role, but Jack Palance as Fidel? Yikes.
Best of all, look for the documentary Ernesto Che Guevara, The Bolivian Diary. Fascinating and inspiring.
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Wed May-19-04 11:03 PM
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he never sucessfully caused revolution in other countries the way Castro did on his own.
White liberals just slapped his face on shirts and made him trendy.
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Wed May-19-04 11:25 PM
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12. He was a murderer of innocents |
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Just because he was a leftist does not justify his crimes.
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Wed May-19-04 11:40 PM
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Usually it's "thug" or maybe "extremist" or "radical". But "thug" is better. "Terrorist" is very popular these days, but that might be sort of an anachronism.
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Wed May-19-04 11:42 PM
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14. Who exactly, and how were they innocent? nt |
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Wed May-19-04 11:42 PM
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15. Bush is a murderer of innocents too |
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How does that make you feel? Tell me: what is it like to have blood on your hands? Do you infect everything you touch?
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Wed May-19-04 11:45 PM
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16. He has to be - he's on a million t-shirts. |
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