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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 05:00 PM
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Bush this YEAR will TEST DRAFT SYSTEM, INCLUDING ALT SERVICE!
THIS SUMMER AND FALL, Bush is spending millions of dollars to test the DRAFT and make it ready for June 15, 2005--"IF" he needs it. The WH has said the DRAFT "is not under consideration AT THIS TIME". We know that but what about AFTER the election????!!!!

1. Bush is making ready the Alternative Service for the first time in 31 years. The SSS has tested the DRAFT APPARATUS before, but has NEVER bothered to test the Alternative Service. Now it is, right down to the detailed papers employers must sign to participate in the cheap labor AS system. They are also Identifying the types of employers and organizations in regional areas that can be used for the AS.

2. All empty DRAFT BOARD seats are being filled by SPRING 2005.

3. The entire DRAFT system is being geared up to 95% capability THIS SUMMER AND FALL. The SSS will even hold mock lottery drawings and issue sample medical exam orders for inductees to report.

4. Bush is RIGHT NOW having the SSS "design procedures" to REGISTER EVERYONE UNDER 35 IN A SKILLS DRAFT. The Pentagon could have shortages in hundreds of different occupations, just as it already does in nurses, engineers, linguists and computer programmers (Star Wars). ALL under 35 would be forced to register or the FBI will make you.

5. BUSH PLANS TO STAY IN IRAQ WITH ONLY U.S. TROOPS AND WES CLARK SAYS BUSH HAS 6 MORE COUNTRIES ON A LIST OF NATIONS TO INVADE.

6. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY CALL IT DUBYA DUBYA III?

Here's what happens in a DRAFT LOTTERY--this is what they will be TESTING THIS YEAR:

http://www.sss.gov/fslottery.htm


SELECTIVE SERVICE LOTTERY Printer Friendly Version

If and when the Congress and the President reinstate a military draft, the Selective Service System would conduct a National Draft Lottery to determine the order in which young men would be drafted.

The lottery would establish the priority of call based on the birth dates of registrants. The first men drafted would be those turning age 20 during the calendar year of the lottery. For example, if a draft were held in 1998, those men born in 1978 would be considered first. If a young man turns 21 in the year of the draft, he would be in the second priority, in turning 22 he would be in the third priority, and so forth until the year in which he turns 26 at which time he is over the age of liability. Younger men would not be called in that year until men in the 20-25 age group are called.

Because of the enormous impact of this lottery, it would be conducted publicly, with full coverage by the media. Accredited observers from public interest groups will have full access to observe the proceedings.

To make the lottery as fair as possible, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) developed a unique random calendar and number selection program for Selective Service. Using this random selection method for birthdays, each day of the year is selected by computer in a random manner, and that date is placed in a capsule. The capsules are then loaded in a large drum on a random basis. By the same method, numbers from 1 to 365 (366 for men born in a leap year) are also selected in a random fashion, placed in capsules, and the capsules are placed into a second drum. The process, repeated a second time, results in two sets of drums. Official observers certify that the capsule-filling and drum-loading were conducted according to established procedures. This certification is secured to each drum; they are sealed and placed in secure storage. Should a lottery be conducted, one of the first actions would be an inspection of these stored drums and the selection of a set to be used in the lottery.

Here is how the lottery would work: One capsule is drawn from the drum containing birth dates January 1 through December 31. One capsule is then drawn from the drum containing the sequence numbers from 1 through 365 (366 if the draft will call men born during a leap year) and the date and number are paired to establish the sequence number for each birth date. This is done in full view of all observers, officials, and the media.

For example, if the date of August 4 is drawn first from the "date" drum, and the sequence number of 32 is drawn from the "number's" drum at the same time, then those men turning 20 on August 4 would be ordered for induction processing only after men whose birthdays drew sequence numbers 1 through 31. The drawings continue until all 365 (or 366) birthdays of the year are paired with a sequence number.

After the lottery is completed and results certified, the sequence of call is transmitted to the Selective Service System's Data Management Center. Almost immediately the first induction notices are prepared and sent via mailgram to men whose birth dates drew the lowest lottery numbers.

This system, based on random selection of birth dates, with the order of priority for reporting assigned in a scientifically random manner, is a fair and equitable method of calling men to serve.


BUSH '0 = DRAFT '05
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 05:01 PM
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1. I'm Glad That I'm Turning 40 This Year
I'd never thought that I'd ever say that.
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 05:04 PM
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2. I'm glad I'm turning female this year. . .
Oh wait have those always been there?

*blush* nevermind

Okay this is what I see as truely evil.

We used the draft in WWII to save the world from a man who was invading countries and using his citizens to do so.

Now a man is going to use the draft to invade countries and our citizens will have to help.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 05:09 PM
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3. Sorry -- you might have kind of misunderestimated the female exemption--
there isn't one for the MEDICAL DRAFT or the NEW SKILLS DRAFT. What's your occupation? (As listed on the IRS form the SSS will be looking at).

WOMEN UNDER 35 WILL BE FORCED TO REGISTER AND BE INDUCTED BY MAY 1, 2005 IF BUSH ASKS FOR THE DRAFT IN THE SPRING. WOMEN IN THE MEDICAL FIELD ARE ELIGIBLE UP TO AGE 44!

AND NO MEDICAL DEFERMENTS EITHER, JUST "Essential Community Need"!!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 05:11 PM
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4. The Alternative Service
CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION AND ALTERNATIVE SERVICE (from sss.gov)

A conscientious objector is one who is opposed to serving in the armed forces and/or bearing arms on the grounds of moral or religious principles.

HOW TO APPLY
In general, once a man gets a notice that he has been found qualified for military service, he has the opportunity to make a claim for classification as a conscientious objector (CO). A registrant making a claim for Conscientious Objection is required to appear before his local board to explain his beliefs.

He may provide written documentation or include personal appearances by people he knows who can attest to his claims. His written statement might explain:

how he arrived at his beliefs; and

the influence his beliefs have had on how he lives his life.

The local board will decide whether to grant or deny a CO classification based on the evidence a registrant has presented.

A man may appeal a Local Board's decision to a Selective Service District Appeal Board. If the Appeal Board also denies his claim, but the vote is not unanimous, he may further appeal the decision to the National Appeal Board. See also Classifications.

WHO QUALIFIES?
Beliefs which qualify a registrant for CO status may be religious in nature, but don't have to be. Beliefs may be moral or ethical; however, a man's reasons for not wanting to participate in a war must not be based on politics, expediency, or self-interest. In general, the man's lifestyle prior to making his claim must reflect his current claims.

SERVICE AS A CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR
Two types of service are available to conscientious objectors, and the type assigned is determined by the individual's specific beliefs. The person who is opposed to any form of military service will be assigned to Alternative Service - described below. The person whose beliefs allow him to serve in the military but in a noncombatant capacity will serve in the Armed Forces but will not be assigned training or duties that include using weapons.

ALTERNATIVE SERVICE
Conscientious Objectors opposed to serving in the military will be placed in the Selective Service Alternative Service Program. This program attempts to match COs with local employers. Many types of jobs are available, however the job must be deemed to make a meaningful contribution to the maintenance of the national health, safety, and interest. Examples of Alternative Service are jobs in:

conservation

caring for the very young or very old

education

health care

Length of service in the program will equal the amount of time a man would have served in the military, usually 24 months.
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Alerter_ Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 05:11 PM
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5. "employers must sign to participate in the cheap labor AS system"?
Government contractors can sign up to get DRAFTED labor from the SSS? Neo-Slavery from Neo-Cons.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 05:13 PM
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6. When I was drafted in 1966 I didn't even consider leaving the country
But if Bush were president and I was called I'd leave ASAP. This is a different political climate. They are looking for fodder to fuel their war machines.

I would think it unconstitutional to have to fight in PNAC's wars. Cruel and unusual punishment.
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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 05:16 PM
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7. well fuck
road trip to Canada, anyone?
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 05:20 PM
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8. Did I mention Kerry has a NO-DRAFT PLAN? here it is:
Kerry's NO-DRAFT plan is to raise 40,000 additional troops and avoid reinstatement of the draft is added up this way:

1. Move some paper-pushers to combat (lots of potential there)
2. Increase enlistment with real scholarships and pay raises
3. Let troops know Special Ops will hunt al-Queda, no more invasions needed, so re-up rate goes up. "Primarily a law enforcement effort, not a full military effort", say JK.
4. Start a "Civilian Stability Corps" that would help in reconstructing Afghanistan and Iraq and relieve military pressure.
5. GET FOREIGN TROOPS TO COME INTO INSTEAD OF LEAVE IRAQ!!

http://www.candidatemap.com

"...I propose that we enlist thousands of them in a Civilian Stability Corps, a reserve organization of volunteers ready to help win the peace in troubled places. Like military reservists, they will have peacetime jobs; but in times of national need, they will be called into service to restore roads, renovate schools, open hospitals, repair power systems, draft a constitution, or build a police force. A Civilian Stability Corps can bring the best of America to the worst of the world—and reduce pressure on the military."
< Source: Kerry, John. "Protecting Our Military Families in Times of War: A Military Family Bill of Rights." March 17, 2004. http://johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/spc_2004_0317.html >

With this NO-DRAFT PLAN, Kerry will not have to resort to conscription, even after Bush screwed the whole thing up.


From STOPTHEDRAFT.COM

http://technologyreports.net/stopthedraft/?articleID=2550

What do a former fighter pilot in the National Guard and a former officer in the Navy have in common? Both have promised not to reinstate the military draft if elected president.

Senator John Kerry has promised that if elected president he will not reinstate the military draft, but will increase troop numbers by 40,000.

President Bush and his staff have also promised the American public that there are no plans to reinstate the military draft.

-snip-

John Kerry wants to deploy 40,000 more troops to Iraq and finish the job quickly. Yet when asked how he would do it, he said that a draft is not needed and people will enlist. This approach seems rather naïve and overly optimistic.

To his advantage, however, Senator Kerry was an anti-war activist after serving his duties as a Navy officer in the Vietnam War and knows first-hand the pitfalls of the military draft.

-snip-

BUSH '04 = DRAFT '05
KERRY '04 = PNAC OUT THE DOOR!

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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 06:54 PM
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9. kick
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