Quickvote: Who do you think deserves the blame for Abu Ghraib?

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Quickvote

Who do you think deserves the blame for Abu Ghraib?

[ibegurpard]

1. All of the first four options.

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[corriger]

2. agree

[Dragon Turtle]

4. Like ibegurpard said,

all of the first four.

[Warren DeMontague]

3. The Crap Floats to the Top

I blame Bush most of all, because ultimately this entire nightmare is his responsibility. Doesn't mean I absolve Rumsfeld, Military Intelligence, or the individual brutalizers. But the blame reaches all the way to the top, and he's the person we most need to replace if we want these kinds of things to start improving.

[shraby]

5. The nice part about replacing Bush

is the rest will be replaced also.

[mirandaod]

6. True

I blame Bush ultimately, but also Rumsfeld and others at the top. I don't want Rumsfeld to fall on his sword prematurely. The whole administration needs to go down in November. It's a crime that these low level soldiers are forced to take the blame for what obviously started at the top.

[Lucky Luciano]

7. I agree

I hate to see the pawns of this dark political comedy being the ones who have to bear the full brunt of this. If Kerry gets elected, I probably would not mind if he pardoned them in exchange for information on those who instructed them to behave so barbarically.

[sushi]

8. Bush should have known

and he should have stopped it. I can't believe he hasn't heard anything about what's going on all this time.

Btw, I read that it's Abu Gharib, not Abu Ghraib. Anyone else read or heard that?

[sandnsea]

9. Bush set the tone, signed off on the orders

From what I can tell anyway, he knew they were skirting international law and went along with it. Mostly, I blame him because he set a tone of such severe hatred and lumped all Muslims and Arabs into the "evildoer" group which directly unleashed all this vileness. A different tone, and I can't think of a better word right now, would have set up an atmosphere of respect for international law and foreign cultures that wouldn't have led these MI people to believe it was right to do anything they wanted to the "evildoers". I mean, what's the difference between an "evildoer" and an "infidel"?

[kvnf]

10. I'll tell you who it isn't

The entire military legal community thinks this is bullshit--that is the JAGS. They say they've been silenced and marginalized from the discussion on this.

I think the blame goes to Bush and the top civilian officials at the Pentagon. Also, the folks who actually carried these orders out are responsible, of course, because "following orders" is not a defensible reason to carry out an illegal act...this was established at Nuremburg.

Of course, when you have top officials publicaly saying the Geneva Conventions are bullsh**, what's a poor young MP to believe these days??

[dand]

11. Rot starts at the head and works down,

Bush is a war criminal, as are Rummy, Rice,Powell, Wolfowitz, Pearl, Adleman, the whole AIPAC mob, and all the Generals in the mid-east. They should be tried in the world court.

[Algorem]

12. To quote the ancient Chinese proverb:"Fish head,fish head,the fish rots

from the rolly-polly fish head,hang him for treason,yum."

[Leilani]

13. Your list should include Ashcroft

It was he & his henchmen who rewrote the policies on treatment of prisoners.

Of course, the ultimate guilt belongs to Bush.