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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:28 PM
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Wingnut Wackos and Fundie Freaks
Edited on Sat May-22-04 12:30 PM by UTUSN
A lot of this has been known for quite a while. I suppose this YOO dude would be an ideal colleague for SCALIA. Leave it to Alberto GONZALEZ NOT to be the original thinker behind the torture philosophy. YOO, author of the "Patriot" Act would be that.

But a refreshing note, William Howard TAFT IV, like Teddy ROOSEVELT IV, fine Conservative wine.

And look at BOYKIN's resume, a litany of disasters.

Can there be absolutely NOTHING that wakes wingnuts up? (& sorry but the Salon ad at the top of the first link is for "SAVED".)

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http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/05/22/yoo/index.html

.... Conservative law professor John Yoo, who has since returned to teaching at the University of California at Berkeley's Boalt Hall law school, wrote or co-authored crucial memoranda that encouraged the Pentagon and the White House to deny traditional protections to prisoners of war and detainees. ....

John Yoo's key memorandum on the Geneva Conventions, dated Jan. 9, 2002, argued that they should not be applied to prisoners captured in Afghanistan because the Taliban and al-Qaida had systematically violated the laws of war. ... According to an attorney who has seen the document, it was circulated to Attorney General Ashcroft; White House counsel Alberto Gonzales; David Addington, counsel to Vice President Dick Cheney; and Defense Department general counsel William J. Haynes. Less than three weeks later, Gonzales sent a memo to the president that endorsed Yoo's arguments and added new conclusions of his own, denigrating the Geneva restrictions on coercive interrogation as "obsolete" and "quaint" in the war on terrorism. ....

In a memo to Yoo disputing his views, the department's chief counsel, William Howard Taft IV, warned against "repudiating obligations under the (Geneva) conventions." ....

http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2004/05/20/boykin/index.html

Saving Gen. William "Jerry" Boykin seemed like a strange sideshow last October. After it was revealed that the deputy undersecretary of defense for intelligence had been regularly appearing at evangelical revivals, preaching that the United States was in a holy war as a "Christian nation" battling "Satan," the furor was quickly calmed. ....

Boykin was recommended to his position by his storied résumé in the elite Delta Force. He was a commander in the failed effort to rescue U.S. hostages in Iran in 1980, tracked drug lord Pablo Escobar in Colombia, advised the gas attack on barricaded cultists at Waco, Texas, and lost 18 men in Mogadishu, Somalia, while trying to capture a warlord in the notorious "Black Hawk Down" fiasco in 1993. .... "I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol."

Boykin was the action-hero side of his boss, Stephen Cambone, a conservative defense intellectual appointed to the newly created post of undersecretary of intelligence. Cambone is universally despised by the officer corps for his arrogant, abrasive and dictatorial style and is regarded as the personal symbol of Rumsfeldism. ....

With the Geneva Convention apparently suspended, international law was supplanted by biblical law. Boykin was in God's chain of command. President Bush, he told an Oregon congregation, is "a man who prays in the Oval Office." And the president, too, is on a divine mission. "George Bush was not elected by a majority of the voters in the United States. He was appointed by God." ....

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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:38 PM
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1. Don't let * off the hook re: war crimes prosecution!!
Urge China, France, and Russia to veto a request by the US to extend immunity from war crimes prosecution for another year. Write and call before Monday's vote!!!

FRANCE

Permanent Representative of France to the United Nations - One Dag Hammarskjöld Plaza, 245 East 47th Street, 44th Floor, New York, NY 10017 Telephone: (212) 308-5700, Telefax: (212) 421-6889
Correspondence: French

(To translate your correspondence to French):
http://lemonde.reverso.net/PopUP_trad.asp

CHINA

Permanent Representative of the People's Republic of China to the United Nations - 350 East 35th Street, New York, NY 10016 Telephone: (212) 655-6100, Telefax: (212) 634-7626 E-mail: chinamission_un@fmprc.gov.cn

RUSSIA

Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the United Nations - 136 East 67th Street, New York, NY 10021 Telephone: (212) 861-4900/4901, Telefax: (212) 628-0252, 517-7427

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:45 PM
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3. Yeppers (don't let Shrub off the hook)
Originally was going to name the post, "Wackos & Fundies RUNNING THE SHOW," but I realized that these jerks are not the seminal movers and shakers, just carrying out Shrub's demented agenda. Although I'm SURE Shrub doesn't even read the memos.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:21 PM
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9. More of the Merry *Band
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:25 PM
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11. Wow, Awesome Thread
Went through all of it and some of the linked articles. Thanks.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:40 PM
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8. When do they plan to vote on extending immunity for War Crimes
I am sure many people will want to let the world know how we feel about this.

and when did they suspend "War Crimes"
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:43 PM
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2. When I read the story - I realized there was at least one good thing
to come from it. There is no way in the world that Gonzalez will ever reach the Supreme Court, as has long been speculated was both his and his backers ultimate intent.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:45 PM
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4. How did you tag the highlights?
I haven't seen that yet. What tags do you use?

Thanks!

--bkl
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:50 PM
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5. This Is Too Rich, ME Giving a Techie Tip. Credit SoCalDem
SoCalDem has some threads in the Meeting Room for HTML tips. I am the ULTIMATE computer klutz. Substitute brackets for the diamonds or whatever they're called. Haha.

<span style="background:yellow"> INSERT TEXT HERE </span>
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:09 PM
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6. Or if you want to be really obnoxious
PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!

<span style="text-decoration: blink; font-weight: bold; font-size: 24px; color: red; background: yellow">PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!</span>
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:30 PM
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7. Where's Bobthedrummer when you need him?
It's TRUE kids. Be a BUNCH of X-tian zealots in de gub'mint, the same coin as the Satanic, extremist nighmare unleashed upon Iraq (MORE FILM at 11??? :SIGH:) They're destructive and they're nuts. But they been "unleashed" by folks who consider theyselfs "Übermenschen" aka "Christian Reconstructionists" and THEY control a SHITLOAD O' DOUGH help move they *agenda along...

This shit is the WORST movie I've ever seen. Where's the "off" switch?
Where's the fucking "reset" button?

WHAT needs to happen in America that folks who believe in our common dignity and humanity prevail? WHAT WILL IT TAKE??? :wtf:

SNAP OUT OF IT!!! :spank:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 03:47 PM
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10. Maybe when their neighbors and relatives start disappearing
in the middle of the night without a trace, then they will notice. I'm afraid it won't happen before.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 05:12 AM
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12. Thanks!
I am familiar with most of the tags, but I know several of them have been deactivated. It never occurred to me to use the span style elements because the tables don't work, either.

Of course, I could be really behind the curve, too ...

--bkl
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 08:56 AM
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13. You're Welcome, and
whatever you said: ( "several of them have been deactivated. It never occurred to me to use the span style elements because the tables don't work, either." )

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