Very interesting Zogby article on partisanship in the US.

[napi21]

I just completed a Zogby Poll, and clicked on an article at their site that is very enlightening. It's quite long (34 pages), but it documents Party political history over the years.

http://interactive.zogby.com/s/i.cfm?ID=350029&pass=napi21char

Here's one table from it that shows the cross-over votes (one party to another) in the last 3 Presidential elections:

Percent of the vote
1992 Clinton Bush Perot
Pubs 10 73 7
Ind 38 32 30
Dem 77 10 13


1996 Clinton Dole Perot
Pubs 13 80 6
Ind 43 35 17
Dem 84 10 5


2000 Bush Gore Nader
Pub 90 8 1
Ind 46 45 7
Dem 11 87 2

I was quite surprised at the Nader vote in 2000. It sure seems to indicate that Nader doesn't affect many more Dems than Pubs, but mostly Inds. Seems like we are all spinning our wheels trying to convert any Pubs (no matter how crazy we think they are), and that they won't convert any of us either. Total concentration should be on attracting the Independant who can be convinced that the future is going to be better under Kerry.

[wryter2000]

1. Damn

They show that I've already completed the survey, but I never got the link to do it. Sheeze.

[CatWoman]

3. click on

"click here to try again"

[whistle]

2. Is this a link to the Zogby Poll?

...Is that what their polls are based on, unlimited internet access? I thought they were more scientific than that? Anybody can get in, no pre-screening? Wow, Zogby just dropped two grades in my book.

[CatWoman]

4. I don't understand your concern(s)

what's wrong with anyone getting in?

is he supposed to limit his polls to a certain group?

btw -- there are several questions asked in the poll regarding your political affiliation, personal info, etc.

[mhr]

6. Off Topic - Those Felines Are Sporting Some Finely Groomed Eyelashes!

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[CatWoman]

7. LOL

MoPaul worked his mojo on my cats

:D

[LoZoccolo]

8. Accurate polling relies on random samples.

If the polling gets its data from "whoever happens to show up", it's very not-random.

[salin]

10. I don't believe they use the come and vote internet polls

for their general random polling services. I personally think it is a means for identifying potential future pollees based on the demographic information given as part of the first series of questions on the poll.

[salin]

9. They have different types of polls

they have a few interactive internet polls (that they acknowledge are not scientific)

they also run a number of polls both electronically and, I believe, by phone that come from a more scientific polling sample. When we read Zogby news items - the data comes from these latter poll sources.

They collect demographic information on their interactive internet polls, so I have to wonder if part of the point is to identify folks who fit different demographics (e.g., middle class, self-described "progressive", from small town, midwest) that might be used for some of their commercial polling (market research) in the future. That is - a tool for identifying future samples.

[Columbia]

5. Bush's 3rd Party Threat

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/21/politics/main619019.shtml

"While Democrats fret over the possibility of Ralph Nader causing them to lose another election by stealing votes on the left, President Bush may face an even greater third-party threat from the right wing. The Libertarian Party nominee could cost Mr. Bush his job in 2004.

With conservatives upset over the ballooning size of the federal government under a Republican White House and Congress – and a portion of the political right having opposed the war in Iraq from the start or else dismayed at how it's being handled – the Libertarian nominee, who will be on the ballot in 49 states, may do for Democrats in 2004 what Nader did for Republicans in 2000."

[Dogmudgeon]

11. Lock-Out Warning!

It's a cookie-dependent article. If you're not a registered poll participant, it locks you out.



--bkl

[JHBowden]

12. Nader takes 2 votes away from Kerry for every 1 from Bushit.

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[Onlooker]

13. Let's not forget that Nader is not very radical

I'm sure many of the Nader supporters grew up to be moderate Republicans. Nader never fought much for the big issues like civil rights, women's rights, or gay rights. Mostly, he was interested in corporate accountability, but even there tended to push for winnable issues. When I was in college, Nader people were considered good government types, and I still remember them as courteous, suburban types. I bet a full third of them are Repugs today.