If nominated, would you vote for Lieberman?

[Bushknew]

If nominated, would you vote for Lieberman?

[Fovea]

1. If it was Lieberman or Bush

I would choose Canada.

[FredScuttle]

3. I hear Europe is pretty in November

[NewYorkerfromMass]

41. These childish comments piss me off

Thanks. And those of us unable to leave will have to live with a Scalia jr. on the supreme court. I am embarrassed by the number of no votes here.

NOTE to DU: Ideals are good, but pragmatism is better.

[HFishbine]

43. Agreed

but it's legitmate to view rejection of Lieberman as a pragmatic way to get the democratic party to be responsive to progressive ideals than to allow it to move further to the right than it's ever been.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

51. Would Joe appoint a Gale Norton? an Ashcroft?

I mean WTF are people thinking here? Joe's only sin is he is too nice to the corporate interests, and he is too hard line on MidEast issues with regard to Israel. But besides that, he is a LIBERAL!
NO matter, America would never elect such a whiny wimp as POTUS. :eyes:

[LeFleur]

47. Let Bush Win

So those of you who would not vote for Leiberman if he were nominated would rather see more devastation to America caused by the Bush administration?
Be a patriotic American, get Bush out.

[fortyfeetunder]

2. One category was missing ---

He!! NO!

[wtmusic]

4. If Lieberman and * got married, and * would be 'First Lady' --

then I would vote for him.

[poskonig]

5. I don't vote Republican.

I want to do my best to be ABB, but Lieberman isn't helping me lately.

[primavera]

52. Precisely

A choice between two Republicans is no choice at all; agreing to go along with it and vote for the less offensive Republican lends legitimacy to the de facto creation of a single party system. Sorry, I'll compromise a fair ways in my convictions to get the shrub out of power, but I will not doom future generations to single party totalitarianism to buy for myself an only slightly less offensive wingnut in the White House.

[LibDemAlways]

6. I could tolerate Holy Joe until

yesterday's anti-Dem rant. I'd never vote for him now. He couldn't beat the chimp anyway. He's the repukes fav because he's such a wuss. Ann Richards was great tonight on Larry King. When asked about Holy Joe's comments she bluntly stated that his campaign is going nowhere. How refreshing to hear the truth.

[Bushknew]

10. <<He couldn't beat the chimp anyway.>>

I completely agree.

[JackSwift]

7. It would be painful

but I've worked for a long string of assholes over the years, I'd put on my best shit eating grin and do it. Voting in a plurality take all election is about choosing the lesser of two evils. If I weren't prepared to do it, I'd be a hypocrit for chastising the unrepentent Greens.

[Bushknew]

13. I know where your coming from, itÕs a hard decision.

I loved your line, so I changed the poll : -)

[salin]

8. Fortunately, Sen Lieberman is trying really, really hard

to make sure that we are not in this situation. And for that, I thank him. Today among other things - he apparently waxed poetic on the end of "big government"... thus the solution to uninsured poor people is to let them "BUY" into medicare (that minimum wage job - really gives you a great deal of latitude in terms of extra money to buy medicare).

He seems to be in overdrive, of late, pitching to independents (who don't vote in Dem primaries), and alienating more and more dems. Its as if he wants to avoid putting many voters in the akward position of voting for him - if they really believe that it is not in their best interest, but at least it isn't as bad for them as voting for Bush.

[indigo32]

63. Yup

I sleep comfortably at night in the assurance that I won't have to stomach voting for him.

[quinnox]

9. Yes

I used to be totally against him and would have voted no in your poll, but I decided Bush is worse than anything, even Lieberman.

[Iluvleiberman]

11. Yes- ANYBODY but Bush

To say Lieberman is Bush-lite is asinine. He isn't even close to that slimy crook and his cronies.

[paulsbc]

12. how could you not?

you'd rather vote for Bush? come on, get real. Joe is bad, but he isn't THAT bad...

[TSIAS]

14. Yes (n/t)

[LEFTofLEFT]

15. He is he only dem i could not vote for - guess i would have to go green

:(

[xequals]

16. I'm a moderate Dem and I'd never vote for

Lieberman, Kucinich or Sharpton if nominated.

If Lieberman is running this far to the right in the DEMOCRATIC primary, imagine how much farther he'll move to the right in the general election! Lieberman was once a centrist who had a pretty good voting record on Democratic issues, but he's starting to sound like a conservative Republican (as opposed to Repub-lite). Joe is letting himself be led by Al From and the far right wing of the DLC. Honestly, I get the feeling that if Joe gets the nomination he will run to the RIGHT of Bush. Lieberman has done that before. To win his senate seat he ran to the right of his Republican opponent.

I wouldn't vote for Kucinich either in the general. He's way to far to the left. If I wanted communism I'd swim to Cuba.

Sharpton's brand of racially divisive politics infuriates me. Sure his one liners sound good -- especially if you don't know what he's really about. He exploits African-Americans for his own self promotion and makes a mockery of the civil rights movement, IMO.

Aside from those three, I'd vote for any of the other six Democratic candidates if they were to receive the nomination. I would never vote Green. If one of the three above get it I'd write in Al Gore.

[BayCityProgressive]

17. wow.

Kucinich is a communist? I guess this country really has swung to the right.

[diamondsoul]

21. You know, as a Progressive-

This really bothers me.

"I wouldn't vote for Kucinich either in the general. He's way to far to the left. If I wanted communism I'd swim to Cuba."

*note this is not a flame I'm just spouting off my thoughts.

1. If people would stop being complete a**holes and start acting human, nobody would go that far left because it wouldn't be necessary.

2. Communist is a bit of a stretch. Socialist MAYBE.

3. All of this label nonsense is nothing more than philosophy about how a country ought to work, There's good and bad in every last one. I don't support DK because he's a Democrat, Progressive, Liberal, Green or whatever tag anyone wants to stick on him. I support DK because I believe he can do what he says he can do, and I like the sound of it all.

Whew! That was new and different. And I think I better go to bed now, before I show ya just how kooky I REALLY can be!
:crazy: :D

[Bushknew]

75. Come on now

Send me a link where Kucinich has endorsed Communism. :eyes:

[wuushew]

18. Du'ers are very closed minded

Despite the percieved weaknesses of Lieberman himself, who is to say they would not appreciate Lieberman's vice-president or the rest of his presumeably democratic cabinet. I mean the whole administration would have to be something other than Lieberman clones correct?

[diamondsoul]

19. Ok I voted in both the dang polls, now

will you PLEASE stop making me think about worst case scenarios?!

[Democat]

20. If Issa can vote for Arnold, I can vote for Joe

Anyone but Bush.

[Spirochete]

22. I used to say yes -

that I'd reluctantly vote for Lieberman over Bush. But I'm not so sure. I would say I'd just skip the elections and stay home in that case, except Patty Murray comes up for reelect next year, too. So I do have to go vote. Maybe I'll just write in Drew Barrymore or somebody.

[IndianaGreen]

23. The only way Lieberman would be nominated

is if the other 8 candidates are all aboard a plane that crashes into a mountain.

Peter Camejo has a better chance at becoming Governor of California than Lieberman has in winning a single primary, much less win the nomination.

[Bushknew]

36. I think and hope your right.

<<Peter Camejo has a better chance at becoming Governor of California than Lieberman has in winning a single primary, much less win the nomination.>>

[never cry wolf]

37. please

don't give the repukes any ideas!!! i am sure they are already trying to do whatever may be possible to run against joe, ala mcgovern in 1972. nevertheless, anyone but *.

[SideshowScott]

24. Voting for Lieberman would be like voteing for Bush-lite anyway

Im a Die hard dem but i cannot in good thinking vote for a man who would act like bush on everthing he did. Geese the guy is more right than Clinton ever was..Any other of the 8 yes i would vote for without reservation. But when Joe kisses Bushs butt and attacks the people who support his party and is the key for victory..I just donno..Methinks Joe watches too much fox news..I predict he will switch when he does not get the nom

[IndianaGreen]

25. Lieberman is pro-choice and pro gay rights (ENDA)

That's about the only positive things I can say about Lieberman.

[SideshowScott]

28. Good Point Green! I had forgotten about that..

With Joe acting soo much like a republican evertime he opens his yap..Well im deffanlty down for a pro-choice vote..But Lieberman really disspoints me everytime he speaks lately..I guess with pro-choice id have to reverse my vote to id vote for him with BIG TIME reservations and IF he does not say anymore stupid things ...
But repub-lite will not beat bush..Its a lesson that 2002 should have taught the democrats

[TreasonousBastard]

26. A real Hobson's choice there.

But, does anyone want to see just how much damage Shrub can do in another four years?

If, by some witchcraft, he does get the nod, I'll take the devil I don't know. I just can't imagine him being worse any worse than what we have now.

Really, say he does get it... Are you really going to vote for the Green, or the Socialist Worker, or anyone else, just to protest him and guarantee four more years of THIS.

[Bushknew]

35. I donÕt think America is ready for a Jewish president,

as "cosmopolitan and enlightened" as America is.

He wouldn't beat Shrub anyway.

[the_sam]

27. Yes

We must beat Bush at all costs.

[uhhuh]

29. Yep, but

It would be an "Aw, ma, do I have to?" kind of vote.

[CWebster]

30. No

but I would not vote for Kerry either. I would vote for Gephardt, if only for his consistant strength on labor and his devotion to the cause of the working American. But nothing about Kerry, his equivocating views, his pompous speaking demeanor, his arrogant machismo, his elitist airs, could convince me to support him as the Democratic contender for the future.

No.

[redeye]

31. On many issues Lieberman is not GOP-lite at all...

...e.g. abortion and the environment.

However, on my number one issue, Lieberman is not Bush lite - he is Bush, period - namely, atheists' rights and separation of church and state. The bastard not only spoke vehemently against Newdow vs. Congress - an inexcusable act IMO - but also said "atheists have no morals."

So, as a person without morals, I will not bring myself to voting for Holy Joe.

[stilpist]

32. I'd vote for Daffy Duck!

Of course I'd vote for Holy Joe! What do you think ANYBODY but Bush mean??? :wtf:

Main reason I hope Joe doesn't get the nomination is that he's such an ineffective campaigner that he'd almost surely lose.

Have you noticed the true believers on the right that think former Governor Bush isn't conservative enough?

[Lost4words]

33. Sorry,,, never in a million years.

No votes for dinos ever again from me. If you/we want a shot at 04 better make damn sure its not lieberman. He had a responsibility to all americans to speak out. HE DIDNT!

Once the candidate is nominated I'll give DU a chance to convince me I am wrong! But for now my position is steadfast!

[trogdor]

34. Whether I personally hold my nose and do it is beside the point.

We need to give independents, young people, and fence-sitters a reason to go and vote. Joe Lieberman can't do that. Sorry, it's the truth. The sooner mainstream Democrats realize this, the better.

Enough of milquetoast candidates already! I say Howard Dean is the man.

[Love Bug]

38. Anybody But Bush!

Wouldn't be the first time I voted for the lesser of two evils!

[Skinner]

39. Absolutely.

He is infinitely and obviously better than that jerk in the White House right now.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. I Agree But The Question Is Academic -)

[Bushknew]

53. Not for many Progressives it isnÕt.

I WANTED to vote for Ralph Nader in 2000, but didnÕt.

I voted AGAINST BUSH and not FOR Lieberman and Gore in 2000.

A center right Democrat will not get the Progressive vote and therefore lose in 2004.

IsnÕt the election of 2000 proof enough of this?

I donÕt think the Democratic party gets this yet.

[trogdor]

64. Thank you!

See my previous post, re. relevance. Yes, Joe is better than four more years of Idiot Boy, but whether we are willing to hold our noses doesn't matter - the fact we will have to hold them does.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

68. I Also Believe The Question Is Academic

because I don't see any scenarioes where Lieberman could get the nomination.

I just don't.

[lastliberalintexas]

40. You need another choice

It depends. Because it would depend on the type of campaign he ran, the way in which he attacked Shrub (if at all), whether the race is tight, etc. I might vote for him, but I am still unsure.

[jenk]

44. Yes, though there is no chance of him being on the ticket

.

[Shrek]

45. Your poll is too narrow.

Do you make room for the possibility that there might be some Democrats who would willingly (or even enthusiastically) vote for Lieberman?

[ewagner]

46. gggrrrruuummmbbblllee

yes, after a stiff drink.

[buddhamama]

48. it depends

if it looks like the house and senate will stay in repub hands- no, i will not vote for him.

if i feel confident about the DEMs chances in those races, i will.

[salin]

56. tell me more about your reasoning

A republican congress and Lieberman = ? vs a republican congress and bush = ?

I am guessing that this is because if things keep going poorly due to repub policy as would likely be the case with either man in the WH (not that Lieberman would endorse all actions - but that he wouldn't be able to stop it) - that at least with a full flush (re: both branches clearly repub) the blame goes where it belongs - and the tide might begin to turn - not in the middle (the past 20 years of fighting for indies) - but throughout as the ideologues running the GOP would turn too many people against it?

That was just my stab at trying to figure out a possible reasoning for your interesting (and unique on this thread) position.

[buddhamama]

72. hi,salin

my reasoning is this, if Lieberman should get the WH with GOP Houses then he'll have an easier time implementing more of his 'right' policies.
but, if the DEMs were take both Houses than the 'party' would be an opposition to the policies that Lieberman endorses but currently the majority of DEMs do not.

i could be wrong, of course.(and really what reason do i have for thinking this considering the opposition the DEMs have given Bush--wishful thinking maybe) the party may go along with Lieberman on everything because he is one of them, but we stand a better chance of protection ourselves than we would if the Repubs control the Congress and the Senate.

your thinking works for me too,as an aside.

[GOPBasher]

49. I'll take Lieberman

On domestic issues, I don't think he's half as bad as everyone here says he is. Though, I admit, on foreign policy issues he's just as hawkish as Bush.

[Walt Starr]

50. Lieberman is the only potential Dem candidate I will not vote for

I was ABB until Holier-than-thou Joe started going after Dean so heavily.

Now, I would never cast a vote for Lieberman.

[JPace]

54. I would have to hold my nose....

as I did it, but yes. I would vote for a duck if
that's all that the dems could come up with. Anything
but bush!

[Iverson]

55. If I were nominated?

No, as the nominee I would not vote for Lieberman. I would either vote for me or else decline the nomination.

[Yupster]

57. I'd vote for Arnold

oh sorry -- was watching too much tv.

[angka]

58. yes but new zealand would start looking better

nt

[donco6]

59. I would do anything legal to avoid that matchup.

I really don't know if I could hold my nose tight enough to vote for holy joe.

[MadHound]

60. Flame away if you wish,

But quite frankly if it isn't Kucinich or Sharpton as the Dem nominee, I'll be voting Green. Lieberman is a Republican in all but name, Dean is a corporate conservative in liberals' clothing, and Kerry and Edwards are nothing but DLC style corporatists.

[goobergunch]

61. Yes and here's why

NARAL (107th Congress): 100
Humane Society (107th Congress): 86
NAACP (107th Congress): 94
NEA (107th Congress): 90
LCV (107th Congress): 88
AFL-CIO (107th Congress): 92.5
ADA (107th Congress): 90

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=S0141103

ON EDIT: Did I mention that he doesn't have a very good chance of being nominated?

[NewYorkerfromMass]

65. Right. It wont' happen so why bother wasting time on it? nt

[onehandle]

67. Why...that Monster.....

I'm REALLY worried about him getting nominated. He's SURGING in the polls.

ha ha

[sexybomber]

62. If Lieberman is nominated

I emigrate.

[onehandle]

66. It's not going to happen, people....

On the off chance, I would punch the D.

I always punch the D. I'm a member of Democratic Underground.

[amazona]

69. absolutely

While he is not my first choice, and I doubt he is anyone else's first choice -- and I actually doubt he will be the candidate -- certainly I will support him. It is too important to get the thieves out of office. We can infight any old time.

[regularguy]

70. Shit eatin' grinner here!

Anybody but Bush. If Lieberman gets nominated and elected (doubtful), Ashcroft, Rumsfeld,Norton, Cheney(!),various Iran-contra crooks, and a whole host of swine go away. That said, he's my least favorite Dem candidate.

[paulk]

71. I would have said I'd vote for him

but his most recent remarks have really pissed me off. If it looked like he had a chance to take my state, I'd hold my nose. If he's out of the running, I'd vote for a 3rd party. (don't assume Green)

I can't stand the guy - if the Dem. party nominates him, I would consider it the final betrayal - I would rescind my membership.

[Sinistrous]

73. I would probably have to hold my nose

with a set of vise-grips, but even Lieberman would be better than *.

[John_H]

74. Totally mute

Not only will he not be the nominee, he'll be the second or third to go (after DK and right around the time BG "suspends" his campaign).