What's going on between Barbara and Jenna ?

[kentuck]

Daddy and Mommy goes to Barbara's graduation in Connecticut but they don't go to Jenna's in Texas? So Jenna's skips her own graduation?? What's the story? Is Jenna pissed? Tune in tomorrow for the next episode of "The Bush Family - Evil Empire"....

[coloradodem2005]

1. Oh man.

I would be pissed if I were Jenna. You think if worse came to worst that a parent could go to each. If they want her to campaign for her father she should just say "fuck you."

[The Shadow]

2. No Degree, No Graduation?

That's what I'm thinking kentuck. I can't wait to hear the "real" story. :)

[boobooday]

5. I'm with you

EXCEPT that it is hard to believe somebody wouldn't have "taken care of that" with a threat to withdraw funding of some sort. We are talking about the University of Texas here.



http://www.wgoeshome.com

[smirkymonkey]

8. Didn't the University of Texas

law school decline Shrub, indicating that they didn't care who his family was or how much money they had?

Maybe they are keeping with the tradition of maintaining academic integrity.

[Bozita]

24. Dumbya must have taken the LSAT -- Anybody know his score?

[madrchsod]

6. i think she failed enough courses that

there wasn`t anyway she was going to graduate..there should be a record of her grades..i don`t know of any reason not to attend...

[bluestateguy]

3. I'm glad he didn't come to the UT ceremony

It just would have clogged up traffic and parking even more than it already did. Also, the UT Commencement is typically a very open ceremony, held outdoors in front of the Tower. A Presidential visit just would have clogged everything up.

[Cleita]

4. For Enquiring minds.

http://www.thefirsttwins.com/

It hasn't been updated yet, but I'm sure the website will have all the answers to your present question and future ones as well.

[Kiliki]

7. He's not going to the graduation, just the party beforehand...

they did the same thing for Jenna the day before her graduation.

I don't find it so odd she'd skip graduation, I knew several people who did.

I'm anti-W, but I don't think his daughters deserve this kind of scrutiny. Ditto Kerry's daughter!

[spotbird]

9. They are not off limits any more.

They have chosen the spotlight by working for their father, they are also adults. The gloves are off, they now deserve all the shit Chelsea Clinton got and more.

If they chose obscurity that would be another matter, but they are picking the limelight, they can't have it both ways.

Who views Kerry's daughter as off limits anyway?

[Kiliki]

10. I don't recall Chelsea ever being targeted?

And I think Kerry's daughter should be off limits. Its ridiculous that Americans seem more interested in a candidates daughter's breasts or a candidates daughter's decision to attend graduation than 800+ soldiers dead.

Boobs showing, not walking in a cap and gown... who cares. I don't get the big deal.

[justgamma]

11. Rush started making fun

of Chelsea's looks when she was about 13. He's a real class act.

[Raven]

12. I agree with you Kiliki

these kids didn't pick their parents and they all should be left alone. And even if they are "fair game" because they are working for a candidate, we should stick to politics with them and not their clothes, the size of their breasts and all the rest of that crap. We really have bigger issues to deal with. Also, I would have skipped my graduation if my parents weren't attending.

[napi21]

17. I agree with you.....sort of

we all can think what we want of someone's looks, clothes, and school, but those things should be off limits to everyone....including Rush!

I think the reason Jenna not attending her graduation ceremony has drawn attention is because her father seems like such a dumba**. People tend to think children will be a bit like their parents. I have to add that Chelsea graduated the other day too! TOP HONORS!!! See what I mean.....children like their parents.

If you think the "girls" statements aren't going to be scrutinized, you're wrong. Everybody is going to be looking to see which one is like Daddy.

[Bhaisahab]

33. all said and done... i think kerry's daughter is hot!

hotter than the twins put together. and its not just coz she chose a dress like this...
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/05/20/alexandra_kerry,0.jpg

[Bluebear]

13. Rush called Chelsea the "White House Dog"

On his short-lived TV show Rush said "Everybody knows about Socks, the White House cat. But did you know there's also a White House dog?" A picture of 12 year-old Chelsea Clinton appeared on the screen.

TWELVE years old she was.

[Bluebear]

14. McCain said Chelsea was ugly because Janet Reno was her real father

Joke told at a Republican fund raiser. Ha ha ha.

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html

[Kiliki]

15. Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot....

I missed that (but then again I avoid Rush like the plague he is)

But I don't think its okay to then say turnabouts fair play and go after Bushes daughters. Its like when "they" say our soldiers abusing prisoners is somehow morally okay because the bad guys did it too. I expect better of my "team" :)

[Bluebear]

16. I hear ya...

Just refreshing your memory :)

I will say that I have already seen references to what a wanton slut Kerry's daughter is, maybe people are finally saying it's time to give as good as they get.

[The Shadow]

18. Original Intent of The Criticism Is This.

Remember when bushhole was campaigning for the 2000 elections his platform was based on restoring honor and integrity to the White House. Bushhole insisted that he was a man of great moral character, a devout Christian, a wonderful family man, and a leader by example.

Considering he was a drunk and a cokehead until he was 40 something, and then blamed it on the indiscretions of youth.
When the photograph and stories came out about the twins partying habits, mrs. bushhole said "oh well girls will be girls", instead of doing what most parents do and denounce their behavior.

My point is that bushhole is not a man of integrity, but one of secrecy and deception, in addition to other unsavory characteristics.

I believe that the bushhole family is a dysfunctional one and certainly not one of worthy of admiration.

And I still don't believe the kid graduated!

[Kiliki]

20. Well lots of productive, healthy people...

are raised by alcoholics. Granted, its far easier if said alcoholic is recovering, but even adult children of active alcoholics are often able to lead productive, healthy lives. Welcome to America where we all own dysfunctional families of some flavor or another. The Bushes hardly own a patent on that reality. There are some well known political families on our side of the aisle with equally dysfunctional histories that are well known, and I'd wager many many more where it isn't quite well known.

As to underage college kids partying, I don't know if you went to college or you have children but I can assure you drinking underage is an undergrad sport. They didn't just make all those kegger movies out of imaginary stuff.

Sorry, I don't get the fascination with the Bush girls or this puritanism in regards to their drinking or disinterest in showing up at a grad ceremony.

[The Shadow]

22. Not My Point At All.

I have two daughters, one 21 and another 15.
My point is that I don't go around professing to be morally superior to anyone like Bushhole and his ilk do on a daily basis.

Given the willingness that bushhole and his ilk attack all who disagree with them with such fervor and contempt, I for one shall give no quarter. They wanted war, they have a war, with all of those who value this great nation more than some asshole from texas and his evil friends.

Perhaps you can take your discussion to the freeper site. I'm sure they will be more receptive.

[Kiliki]

23. In my best Bush I voice- not gonna do it...

thanks but no thanks, I think I'll keep my discussion right here at DU where it began.

Thats a mccarthy technique you know- hear a differant opinion and try to label the differing POV as party dissent akin to treason. How quaint!

What you seem unable to comprehend is your criticism belongs with Bush, it is HIS parenting skills you're being critical of, HIS non-reaction, HIS attempt at being morally superior. Your attempt to deflect the blame to the Bush girls is pathetic, you're willing to just let him off scott free in your zeal to castigate two college girls who behaved quite like... well... college girls.

[The Shadow]

27. My Blame is Aimed Squarely At Bushhole.

Read my posts again, other than me stating that I didn't think that Jenna graduated in my first post, I have been critical of bushhole and his ilk, and not his daughter. I don't think I'm one to mince words and I think I have been very clear as to where my criticisms lie.

I have only tried to explain my point of view, while you have responded in a somewhat, shall we say, trollish manner. Noting that you seem to be new here and the vehemence with which you reply to my posts, I guess that would only make one wonder what your intentions here on the DU are. Differing points of view are in fact welcome, but your last post is nothing more than Flame bait and you know it.

Let me see now.... I'm unable to comprehend, pathetic, McCarthyistic, and zealous. Need I go further.

Bye now.

[Kiliki]

29. eh.

What you call flame-bait and trolling, I call discussion. It's utterly bizarre to have ones motives questioned rather than taken at face value. You don't need to speculate about my motives, I've spelled them right out. I don't think people play fair with the children of candidates or sitting presidents, particularly this election cycle. That's my motive. It's pathetically easy to comprehend, even in zealous McCarthyistic circles. ;)

Oh and I always post vehemently when I feel passionate. I'm the hot tempered (but well read) kind of progressive rather than the cool, detached sort. The world needs a little of both.

[Virginian]

34. "I have been critical of bushhole and his ilk, "

Now that they are going to campaign, are they going to become his "ILK"?
Doesn't that re-classify them as his ilk?

I would think that would make them as much Bush ilk as Carville is Clinton ilk. But it may depend on how they campaign.

[Virginian]

31. It was my understanding that Bush tightened the laws

against underage drinking. Every one was watching to see how he would react when his laws had an impact on his family.

If Jenna had gotten off Scot free, it would have more blatently demonstrated that he was a "Don't do as I do, do as I say do" hypocrit.

The last I heard, neither parent was going to either graduation. Did they change their mind about Barbara?

[yardwork]

25. I remember that scene. It was the one and only time I watched Rush.

It's incredible that anybody has any respect for Rush Limbaugh.

[Cleita]

19. They did a skit on Chelsea on Saturday night live, with Madonna

playing Marilyn Monroe, with the Happy Birthday song, but she was singing to Chelsea. The SNL'er who played Chelsea had all the red curly hair exaggerated and it was really awful. I didn't like Madonna for awhile after that. There was a stink about it and guess who came to Chelsea's rescue? Howard Stern. He said that this was a thirteen year old girl, going through an awkward stage of her life and then she is being thrown into the limelight because her father was elected President. That everyone should be ashamed of themselves. She wasn't fair game. I think Howard Sterm made everyone involved feel like shit. That SNL skit was never replayed either. Chelsea was able to have a relatively tabloid free life after that.

[KharmaTrain]

28. Chelsea Was And Still Is A Wingnut Target

It's amazing she's grown up as sane and happy as she appears to be.

I'd do some "googling" to Newsmax and other Wingnut sites and see the articles written in the late 90's that accused any and all things Clinton with every sin and crime known to man...and a few new ones.

The children should be off-limits as long as they don't either speak in a political nature (just as a wife or other family member) or try to use their parent's political fame for their own benefits...like skipping out of military service, owning a baseball team without putting down a dime, stealing an election or three and so on.

When I first read that the parents were planning to skip out on both graudations I was ready to make fun of it, and then thought about closer. Appearing at the graduation would be disruptive...especially on a "liberal" campus during a war. It would also be disruptive to Barbara and Jenna...who hopefully earned their degrees and now get the last "breather" in life for a long time. Just a little courtesy on this end...a modicum of decency, even for this Stepford family.

Let their ruins be by their own actions, not of their birthrite.

[spotbird]

35. Well she sure as heck was,

The best example that comes to mind is Rush explaining that two cats and a dog were living in the WH, the dog was Chelsea. Shoot, Drudge speculated on her state of sexual arousal. Sorry you don't remember but the press, and the RW press in particular were just viscous to her.

Turn about is fair play.

[Zomby Woof]

21. the whole family is diseased puke-turds

Criminally insane parasites, all of 'em. I say they're fair game, and no mercy.

They aren't kids anymore, and as long as they enable Daddy's campaign, they are in my crosshairs of the ZombyTroof.

[lpbk2713]

26. "Diseased puke-turds" ............... Hey, I like that.

Effective, has a nice ring to it.

[Zomby Woof]

30. when it comes to describing them

Plenty more originals where that came from. ;-)

[TheWizardOfMudd]

32. I hesitate to say what is going on between them

But I am quite confident it does not rhyme with "feel ratio, cunning linguist."