Iraqi Grand Ayatollah says even leaving Iraq won't save America now

[NNN0LHI]

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBUTQUXMUD.html

Senior Shiite Cleric Says Violence in Iraq's South Is Making Enemies for the United States

KARBALA, Iraq (AP) - A senior Shiite cleric warned Monday that clashes between U.S. troops and the Shiite militia of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr could create enemies for America - even after U.S. troops leave Iraq.

"This war has planted a lasting strife in our country," Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Taqi al-Modaresi told The Associated Press as he sat cross-legged in a bare room

"Even if the Americans withdraw from Iraq, the Shiites have patience and perseverance," al-Modaresi said, implying that angry relatives would likely hold grudges against the Americans for many years.

Al-Modaresi, who has tried to mediate between the U.S.-run coalition and al-Sadr, said he feared those who suffered at the hands of the Americans during the nearly 2-month-long uprising might try to "harm American and Western interests."

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[achtung_circus]

4. What democracy, what savages?

or is there a sarcasm undercurrent I haven't detected.

edit stupid typo

[skypilot]

2. I'm feeling safer everyday.

*

[DenverDem]

3. The power elite Hegelian strategy is working.

This war was fought to bring America to its knees and to make sure we are demonized for the rest of history. The dream of democracy is dead, long live corporate feudalistic fascism.

We'll all be speaking Chinese in ten years.

Thanks bushlerco.

[Catholic Sensation]

5. my bad

nm thought it said iran

[SoCalDem]

6. It's never a good idea to start shit in cultures who mark time

by centuries.. George marks time in minutes, and the middle east has "feuds" that go back thousands of years.. He opened up a gigantic can of "Pandora's Slow Roasted Rotten Beans", and we will be digesting them forever:(

[Borknagar]

7. Honestly

This entire world is freaking stupid.

[tom_paine]

8. Oh, I think you need to elaborate, Bork

Please do share your opinion of this article...

What EXACTLY does your single tex line refer to?

[DenverDem]

9. Yeah, we're the only smart ones.

Nice try, moran.

[Bridget Burke]

10. How do you kep an Aggie busy on the Internet?

http://texas-on-line.com/graphic/aggiejk5.htm

[DenverDem]

12. Hook 'Em!!

So true.

[0007]

22. Time is a good way of looking at things.

I like the analogy.

Of course I could say junior has eaten those "Rotten Beans" and he's gassing his own people.

[keithyboy]

11. And the neocons could not see this from the beginning? I think they did.

They just don't give a damn! It's not their lives or the lives of their children on the line. WTF do they care?

[forgethell]

13. Might well be.

But I'm not too worried about it. They hated us before we went in; they'll hate us after we leave. They hated us before Bush 1 was President, they'll hate us after President Kerry and President Clinton are out of office.

[NNN0LHI]

14. Yea. They hate us for our freedoms. Right? n/t

[forgethell]

17. don't know what they

hate us for. Doesn't really matter. They do. My own opinion, they are religious bigots, that is the ones that are are doing the violence. * didn't start it. I don't think he can end it either. I don't think Kerry can either. this is just something we are going to have to accept and live with.

[NNN0LHI]

18. You don't know why they hate us? Perhaps you had better find out why?

Kind of sounds like another incurious fellow who is currently stinking up the White House.

Don

[Aidoneus]

20. "don't know what they hate us for"

this MIGHT be a part of that:--


Though there is a great deal that predates this.

[Carolina]

21. They are religious bigots???!!!

the ones being violent are religious bigots? They couldn't possibly have other reasons because we're pure as the driven snow? WTF!

Perhaps this Bush didn't start it but his kind of people (going back generations) did and he sure as hell has exacerbated it.

[Jacobin]

15. What?!?! You mean they might retaliate for the abuses?

Shocking.

[NNN0LHI]

16. Not so much the abuses

More for the torture, murders, and rapes.

Don

[karabekian]

19. why do people even listen to "senior clerics"

would you accept things said by the pope as the truth? Religious leaders are full of it in almost every case.