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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:08 PM
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Christopher Hitchens - The pot calling the kettle black...
Hey anyone seen these comments from born again neo-con Christopher Hitchens?

Hitchens: Moore is "fat, vulgar, and stupid"

With Michael Moore's new film "Fahrenheit 9/11" taking top honors at Cannes this month, Christopher Hitchens, the Vanity Fair contributor and liberal pundit who opted for a conservative extreme makeover after 9/11, saw fit to trash the filmmaker last week on Joe Scarborough's MSNBC talk show "Scarborough Country." Moore is certainly no stranger to political hyperbole, but he may have a worthy adversary in Hitchens, who took the time to bad-mouth the liberal political group MoveOn.org as well.

"SCARBOROUGH: Michael Moore is a rock star over in France and he wants Americans to buy his new movie. But we got a secret for you. He thinks you're dumb ... Moore is hoping to create a political firestorm in November with his explosive new movie 'Fahrenheit 911.'

"Christopher Hitchens, I want to read you what Michael Moore posted recently on his Web site. He said this -- quote -- 'I oppose the U.N. or anybody else risking their lives of their citizens to extract us from this debacle. The majority of Americans supported this war once it began and sadly that majority must now sacrifice their children until enough blood has been let that maybe, just maybe, God and the Iraqi people will forgive us in the end.'

"Here's a guy, Michael Moore, who is actually saying, let's not internationalize this force because it may save American lives. We need more Americans dying.

"HITCHENS: He's a completely promiscuous opportunist. He's the sort of perfect symbol of the culture and mentality of MoveOn.org and all the other pseudo-pacifists and cynics. And as you've just demonstrated, under the pretense of humanitarianism, he's an extremely callous person. Nobody with any decency could have penned and put up on a screen the words you just read.

"SCARBOROUGH: It's remarkable ... this is what he told the foreign newspaper when he was selling his book overseas. Of Americans, he said -- quote -- 'They are possibly the dumbest people on the planet. We don't know about anything that's happening outside our country. Our stupidity is embarrassing.'"

Scarborough then asked another guest, film critic Jeffrey Lyons, if Moore wasn't "extraordinarily cynical" and hell-bent on selling tons of product. Lyons demurred, noting that he'd wait to see the movie in order to "make up my own mind."

Apparently that's not a requirement for Hitchens, who said the joke is on all the foolish Europeans who have embraced the quintessentially unattractive American filmmaker:

"HITCHENS: But speaking here in my capacity as a polished, sophisticated European as well, it seems to me the laugh here is on the polished, sophisticated Europeans. They think Americans are fat, vulgar, greedy, stupid, ambitious and ignorant and so on. And they've taken as their own, as their representative American, someone who actually embodies all of those qualities."
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:10 PM
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1. I'm surprised Snitchy doesn't accuse him of reeking of scotch
Edited on Wed May-26-04 03:11 PM by thebigidea
talk about projection.

I remember watching that - it was disgusting. Snitch is repulsive.

(P.S. Every time I see your nickname, I have to supress thoughts of my 1st film: http://www.sweetthunder.org/bleedingskull/vhs/devilgirls.html)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 09:32 PM
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20. LOL!!!
Good one :)
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:11 PM
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2. Scarbourough needs to still account for that intern who "died"...
in his office.

Yes, I believe that it is possible that Joe killed Lori Klaustis!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:13 PM
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4. I have worn out my keyboard sending emails
to msgop and to microsoft complaining about this, no surpise, they never respond.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:12 PM
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3. Michael Moore is ... Fat?
Sure, I know that he's fat.

But when did "fat" become a term of opprobrium to be used with vulgar, stupid, greedy, ambitious (?) and ignorant -- ?

A lot of the younger folk abuse the word "gay" the same way -- "Oh, that's just so gay!" I guess when you're a teenager, you use the word "gay", and when you grow up, you shift to using "fat".

--bkl
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:13 PM
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5. I've never been able to figure out what happened to Hitchens
How can he possibly ignore all the lies of this administration and what these crooks have done to this country?
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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:20 PM
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8. No turning back now after what he did to Blumenthal
once you've done something that totally evil, in an attempt to destroy the best presidency of our lifetimes, Satan owns your soul forever
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:21 PM
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9. He is in the employ of Scaife
Edited on Wed May-26-04 03:24 PM by Classical_Liberal
. He well knows that if the Europeans and the UN refuse to bail us out it is sure hell not because of Michael Moore. Why the hell would they want get involved in a mess they didn't create, which they advised against, and for which they have no control? Atleast Michael Moore looks like he has had a recent bath.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:57 PM
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13. Big Fat Paycheck, Top Flight Scotch, Diplomatic Pouch of Cuban Cigars n/t
Edited on Wed May-26-04 06:58 PM by emulatorloo
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:13 PM
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6. Ah but Hitchens has Europeon accent so he is just eccentric /sarcasm
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:18 PM
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7. have another drink and go to your room, Chris . . .
you became irrelevant years ago . . .
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bushalert Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:21 PM
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10. Hitchens is desperate
He jumped ship 2 years ago and has been completely wrong ever since. This so called war on terror - and his buddy Chalabi have all proven to be disasters. He calls Moore fat and ugly, but have you seen Hitchens teeth lately.....YUK MOUTH
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:24 PM
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11. Why is Hitchens in America?
Simple: he could never work as a "pundit" in Britain. The "sophisticated Europeans" reject him. He's in America, because there are more opportunities for pseudo-intellectual gaseous bores here. He's considered laughable in London.

Eat shit, you fat drunk! Michael Moore won the Palme D'Or! Michael Moore won the Palme D'Or! Michael Moore won the Palme D'Or! Michael Moore won the Palme D'Or! Michael Moore won the Palme D'Or! Michael Moore won the Palme D'Or! Michael Moore won the Palme D'Or! Got that?

The grapes certainly are very sour today, aren't they, Chris, you slob.

Whatta guy! What accomplishments! Let's see -- he "investigates" and defames Mother Theresa, of all people -- YET the dear boy can't find a single fault with his Hero, George W?

Does this fat flatulent git have credibility with ANYONE?

BTW, CHris: Michael Moore won the Palme D'Or!

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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:39 PM
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12. Hitchens, the man who hated Mother Theresa
I remember the sludge that he wrote about her in Vanity Fair.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 09:12 PM
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18. I had no problems with the Mother Theresa article
and still reserve a wee bit of praise for Hitchens for that and the Henry Kissinger on trial stuff.

I'd say this has more to do with professional jealousy than any war/anti war thing.

BTW Hitchens isn't European he's English, all the negative stereotypes Europeans tend to associate with Americans they also tend to think are fairly aplicable to the English, and they're not wrong.

Ignorance is bliss in the UK too.
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Miss Authoritiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:18 PM
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14. "A completely promiscuous opportunist"
Funny, that's what I always say when I see Hitchens, only I add, "with really greasy hair."
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:46 PM
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15. I wonder what will happen to Hitchens
and Dennis Miller and Colin Quinn and al the rest of the stupid turncoats when the pendulum swings back (it has already started). Will they be flattened by it?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:47 PM
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16. Can we send him and Andrew Sullivan back home?
It would do wonders for political discourse in this country, though I can certainly understand why the Brits might not want them back.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:50 PM
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17. Hitchens looks like he's really miserable
and killing himself ala Leaving Las Vegas. Maybe he's filled with self loathing for being such a shill and a whore.
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Fight_n_back Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 09:27 PM
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19. I enjoy listening to Hitchens
He makes me find an intelligent rationale for my opinions.

If the "other side" were like him the world would be a better place. Instead the blood of the right wing is pumped through the dark hearts of people like Tom Delay and Dick Cheney.

...and what Hitch said about Mother Theresa was right on.
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