Oxyboilboy says that we cannot come from monkeys

[salinen]

because there would then be no more monkeys...they would have all evolved into humans!

We should be thankful that Asspustule studied science at that university.

Then Pigfucker said that he read "A brief history of time" and concludes that since there must be a beginning, god therefore exists.

Again, we should be thankful that Asspustule studied science at that university.

[DebJ]

1. monkeys and humans, according to theory, EACH evolved from a

common ancestor. Homo sapiens is NOT descended from monkeys.

[BBradley]

2. Apes and humans to be exact.

[gratuitous]

5. Exactly right, DebJ

It's a common misstatement on a par with saying, "I'm descended from my fifth cousin." No, your fifth cousin is your fifth cousin, contemporary with you. But you and your fifth cousin share a common ancestor, five generations back.

Tell you what, Pig Boy. You refrain from talking about things you don't know about, and . . . well, that would pretty much end your career, wouldn't it? Nobody's going to tune in for three hours every day about how to sustain an oxycontin habit, and launder money to avoid legal scrutiny.

[wtmusic]

3. Ask him who created God

n/t

[MAlibdem]

4. I agree about monkeys and humans

But how can there be a beginning without a creator?

There is a paradox here. Something cannot have existed forever, nor can something have come from nothing.

But this paradox can be solved. If something which is not a part of this universe (G-d) created it, then something could come from nothing. Who made G-d, is, of course, the next dilemma, but at that point I'm willing to accept my inability to know and just be happy that I exist.

[salinen]

7. Why do you think that something

cannot have existed forever? My personal view is that the universe has existed forever.

[TrogL]

50. Asking about the length of the universe is a ridiculous question

You have no tools for measuring outside it.

[jpgray]

10. Why not accept your inability to know the origin of the universe?

It is as unknowable as the origin of 'God', and there is far more empirical evidence that the universe actually exists. :D To just say 'God made it' is only trading one mystery that exists all around us for a mystery that may well have been invented by us, and may not exist at all.

[The Magistrate]

17. But You Have, Mr. Dem

Overthrown your argument in stating it. If you can accept a paradox once removed, why can you not accept it straight up, or conversely, ay any point before an infinite regression of external actions to resolve it?

Your suggestion of an agent outside the universe contains even more dark delights. What, after all, can be outside the universe? Where could such a thing be? If it is outside a universe, or what will become a universe, how will it be able to affect it? What is the mechanism by which creation is accomplished?

There is no method of verbal play, Sir, that can demonstrate the existance of diety to a person who does not already believe the thing exists....

[Parche]

6. monkeys

There is one Chimp that is still evolving, and he flies AirForce one

[smirkymonkey]

11. Actually, he's NOT evolving..

he's actually regressing toward the bottom of the food chain.

[BlueStateGirl]

8. That is part of Thomas Aquinas' theory. Everything must

have a beginning. Like dominos, something(one) has to knock over the first one.

I have always been curious about that one myself.

What started all of this????

[salinen]

14. Beginnings and ends

are human constructs. Atomic particles are laughing their asses off.

[BlueStateGirl]

16. And now, so am I. :)

[texastoast]

47. Just curious

Do atomic particles chortle, chuckle, giggle, guffaw, squeal with laughter, or burst out laughing? Further, just what size undies fit on their asses?

Indeed, all is energy shakin' its bootay.

[alvis]

9. I came from my parents...

They're still around :)

This makes me miss the talk.origins newsgroup...maybe I'll go check it out :evilgrin:

[Bandit]

12. He also said that it wouldn't matter if the ice caps melted

He said it would be impossible to raise the sea level. He used an ice cube in a glass of burbon as an example. He said no matter how much the ice cube melted the glass never overflowed. What an idiot. I can't believe logical people can listen to him and not scratch the shit out of their heads.

[BlueStateGirl]

13. He what?? Why do people listen to this moran? What a freakin

retard.

Jesus, he is stupid. Honest to God stupid.

[Twillig]

19. your language is not adequate.

This has gone beyond moran and into the realm of:

Shit-For-Brains.

The Fourteenth Book of Bokonon is more relevant as every day goes by.

[jpgray]

15. LOL, he does know the ice caps are not wholly submerged in bourbon?

Take his example of ice submerged in a liquid. Since water expands when it freezes, it displaces more volume than it would take up in liquid form--therefore it could not raise the level of the liquid. Melt ice into a liquid from outside the liquid, however, and then the level will rise.

[argyl]

18. Dipshit doesn't know the difference between an iceberg and an icecap.

xx

[FighttheFuture]

22. HE needs to load it with ice so it is over the top...

Just like the icebergs are above sea-level (the water should be near the rim, which represents dry land.) When it melts, I am 100% sure there will be a mess on his desk.

[troublemaker]

26. Hmmm... I don't think so

I think floating ice displaces its weight in water. When it melts it should be the same size as the space it 'reserved' for itself in the water. Looked at another way, the portion of the ice sticking up out of the water should represent the entire extra volume of the total volume difference between the ice cube and its constituent water in liquid form. So as long as the original set-up has the topmost ice floating (as opposed to supported by the glass or supported by stacked up ice below, it shouldn't change the level any.

I think... (that's not to say anything about icecaps which area different deal)

[Buns_of_Fire]

38. Of COURSE it never overflows!

If you drink it off first! :evilgrin: (It's interesting that he would use an ice cube in a glass of bourbon as an example, though...)

[Jacobin]

20. The ass hat loves to "talk dumb" to his minions

They all snicker 'bout them dum interlekshuls who are so stoopid that they don't know jayzus made humans.

He incites stupidity and glorifies it.

[Delano]

29. And he knows better.

He's an ass, and no genius, but he knows better. I'm sure of it. I think he holds his dildoheads in the highest contempt.

[Djinn]

21. as soon as someone says

"come from monkeys" when speaking about evolution you can instantly ignore them - to announce your own ignorance that much at the start of an argument is a worry.

[maveric]

23. So now assboil is an anthropologist?

What a multifaceted giant Rush is.

[Az]

24. Good freaking grief, is that old canard still around?

Apparently the drugs were where he was getting all his material.

As to Hawking science does not run on one man's word. Hawking is just one theory. We have moved on from his point. There are a ton of better theories running around out there.

[Delano]

25. How is there a beginning?

There may have been a "beginning" to the present form of the universe we live in, but as far as I can tell, time has always been and always will be - it is infinite.

Let's say the expanding/contracting universe theory is correct (of course that would only apply to the section of all the cosmos that we call the universe - there could be and probably are infinite numbers of universes out there) even if it's correct, this universe must likely has been destroyed and recreated an infinite number of times. Space and time being infinite is a tough thing to wrap your head around, but whether it's true or not has any bearing on the existence or non-existence of a deity. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that Limbaugh is an atheist. Nobody who believes in a just God could spew the lies and hate he does.

[opihimoimoi]

27. If there is a God that looks out for us tiny Humans, He would be shocked

at the same time. We are supposed to be together, in Global Peace, not this angry war shit.

How the Hell are we Humans supposed to get off this Planet and go Interstellar the way we are? Its the only way to go and see HIM! That is our Goal.

[Delano]

28. Well, I'm a total atheist, but...

I liked your post, and I'd probably be the first to volunteer to sail off on that quest with you.

[truthspeaker]

33. Maybe He likes watching us fight

People always assume God is benevolent. Maybe he created us to see what would happen and has as much regard for us as a biologist has for mold cells in a petri dish.

[opihimoimoi]

45. The Universe is the Petrei Dish/ The Gods are waiting to see if a

Benevolent Species make it out of the DISH. Canceresque species are 86'd

[texastoast]

49. God isn't pissed

Just sadden by its children's choices. You see, WE are God. WE create. WE choose. WE are responsible. GOD doesn't "do it to us." The only thing "done" to us was to be given free will. Apparently, we haven't matured enough to be able to handle that one very well.

[ibegurpard]

30. Gee morAn

By that logic, there should only be one breed of dog... or cat... or ape... or...., well you get the picture.

[yellowcanine]

31. Limpballs didn't come from a monkey, he came from a pig. Glad to see he is

reading, though. That is more than we can say for George "I don't read newspapers so just put it in my briefs" Bush.

[Killarney]

32. Is there a link to him spouting this insanity?

I'd love to pass it around to show exactly how unevolved he is.

[truthspeaker]

34. and people wonder why US students trail in science

Remember the 50s and 60s when we led the world in scientific research and technological development?

Ugh.

[kayell]

39. Just wait til we see the results of making people with technical skills

register for a skills draft. I predict a strong growth trend in university humanities enrollment, and a major drop in physics, mathmatics and other science majors.

[tjwash]

35. And people wonder why scientific and tech jobs...

...are getting outsourced to India and China.

[Devils Advocate NZ]

36. Even the "beginning" is disputable

Many scientists are coming to realise that the "Big Bang" theory is NOT the best explanation for the universe that we experience - there are too many anomolies (such as dark matter and dark energy) needed to sustain "Big Bang" theory, and competing theories that do not suffer from such anomolies.

The fact is, religious people cling to the "Big Bang" as it is their ONLY hope of scientific support for their own theory of the origin of the universe.

Once "Big Bang" theory is exposed as the mitsake that it is, the religious will have nothing left except their own imaginings.

[truthspeaker]

37. um, Big Bang is being refined, not replaced

It's pretty clear the universe is expanding and was once compressed into something that, as yet, can only be represented as a mathematical singularity. Whether that was really the beginning of everything or part of something larger is still unknown, as are all the details of how the expansion happened.

[Dont Hurt Me]

40. Had to be done

Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape

[Hubert Flottz]

41. He's right, the GOPers are still apes!

They stayed the course!

[opihimoimoi]

46. Clinging to their OLD BRAINs The GOP show a disdain for Logic,

Common Sense, and Reason. Rather, they go for Anger, Greed, Pride, Ego, and Delusion.

[Blue-Jay]

42. According to that "logic"

There should only be one type of bird, one type of reptile, etc....

Just when you thought he couldn't get any dumber, he trumps himself.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

43. Is it NATIONAL IRONY DAY or what?

Scarborough accuses us of political hate speech. Perle thinks we fucked it up in Iraq...and now this?

With reality like this, who needs mind altering substances? Oh yeah...THEM!!!

[truthspeaker]

44. hmm...

[RapidCreek]

48. Well we didn't come from monkeys

who said we did? He better hope God doesn't exists because if he does ole Rush ain't gonna be living in his house...that's for damned sure.

RC

[troublemaker]

51. Are his ratings down?

This shit sounds like he's trying to expand his base. He used to be a theist in name only, didn't he?