Bill Press thinks Al Gore was "over the top"...

[kentuck]

It seems that Bill has been listening to the right-wingers too much. Anytime a Democrat really sticks it to the Repubs, they scream like hell. Then they get a Democrat to agree with their dismay and anger and , in the process, minimize what the Democrat said, and minimize the pain of the Repubs.

Bill Press did say that Gore's message was right but his delivery was a little over the top. But the message without the passion was not the same message. If he cannot get angry over what has happened in the last few weeks, he has been unconscious. Bill, stop listening to Buchanan so much. Al Gore was right on and people that heard him will judge for themselves, no matter how much it hurt the feeling of the Bush regime. Sometimes the truth hurts.

[BlueEyedSon]

1. BlueEyedSon thinks Bill Press has no pulse.

[Karenina]

28. "RHINOSCEROS"

Ionesco.

[Supormom]

2. Over the top? Get over it!

[NYCGirl]

3. Perhaps he didn't see the ENTIRE speech?

The "heated" delivery was only about a minute of a 110 minute speech! Of course, people are judging this by the tiny excerpts shown on the news programs. It's the "Dean scream redux".

[jdsmith]

4. Hey! So does that lefty Maureen Dowd!

edited to spell "hey" right (damn!)

[trumad]

5. Dinosaurs folks

Old worn out Dinosaurs who still think their opinion counts...

[jdsmith]

7. MD a lefty = joke

[tom_paine]

17. Worse, frightened rabbit dinosaurs

Fuck them. I'm am SICK of cowardice, sick of people so scared what the Party-Loyal Sub-Media might say of them.

I got news for you Bill, they are going to, like the Nazis did the Jews, defame and lie about you (us) and call you a (w)ussy no matter WHAT YOU SAY.

[Wickerman]

6. Leno tried to downplay it last night

Said that after the rant the owner of karaoke bar asked for his microphone back... :grr:

[Kazak]

8. "Gore's message was right but his delivery was a little over the top."

Imagine the same speech in a patronizing tone of voice...doesn't quite work, does it?

[ieoeja]

9. I would agree with Bill Press ...

... if conservative media pundits had taken Bob Barr, Henry Hyde, New Gingrich, ad nauseum to task for being over the top. But when elected Republican officials were/are calling Clintons, Democrats or Liberals "treasonous" and "scum", conservative media pundits fall right in step.

And it appears THEY have no intentions of becoming civil. So they will now have to put up with OUR incivility.

[Jackson4Gore]

12. Shut the hell up Bill Press

He is just another talking head. Gore could endorse Jesus Christ and people would still criticize him. I have never saw a person be talked about so much than he is. He just can't win with some people. But who really cares, who love Al!

[sendero]

13. Amen and ...

... hallellujah.

My first post on DU was about how we (Dems) have to start talking the way they do. Why? Because it is effective. If you cannot say something with passion, why should anyone believe you?

The Reps have been telling lies with passion for years and it has worked well for them. It's not that big a stretch to think that telling the truth with passion will work for us.

If we didn't have a president who is "under the bottom" we'd have no need to go "over the top". :)

[killbotfactory]

10. These republican assholes have ruined America

If you are not pissed off about it, your not paying attention.

[mark11727]

11. (sigh) If only Gore was a fire-breather four years ago...

...people would have seen an impassioned, rather than "wooden" performance they were told they saw...

[Egnever]

14. Ill bet you dollars to doughnuts

Bill didnt watch the speech. My guess is he only saw the clip they show in the soundbites. The part where he was really fired up was very short sort of like the Dean scream. the rest of the speech rocked the house and he wasnt even close to over the top.

I guess you just cant raise your voice in america anymore or you are over the top.

[Justice]

19. Bingo

That is the truth of it.

[dolo amber]

15. Bill Press and Pat Robertson

were on CNN...they played a clip of Al's speech...followed immediately by the "Dean Scream"...:eyes:

And they both chortled at those kooky screaming weirdos...:silly:

[SpiralHawk]

16. When EvILdoeRs are going "under the bottom," then

the truly patriotic American citizen must go "over the top" -- presenting facts and opinion with logic, ethics, and emphasis -- bearing in mind that the world is adrift in an overhyped information sea.

There must be a counter-balance to the low, low place Bush and his gang have dragged America. He and his oil compnay cronies are without honor; and they seem bound and determined to further humiliate our once honorable nation.

I, for one, am glad Gore went "over the top." Reach for the stars, buddy. America needs to go back to the high places of respect, honor, and purposeful, sustainable direction. To get to those high places again, we will all need to go "over the top" of the corruption and small-mindedness that have been characteristic of the Bush regime.

"Ad astra per aspera." To the stars through dreams (after cleaning all the rot out of the bottom places, of course).

[kerry-is-my-prez]

18. The same Bill Press that supported Howard Dean?

That doesn't make any sense....

[Catherine Vincent]

20. Some white folks feel creepy when a white man starts screaming loudly

like a preacher.

[Justice]

21. So Good To Think That Bush Can Behave

like a stumbling village idiot and he is described as "like us, an average guy" and Gore displays genuine intellectual passion over a horrible wrong, and he is over the top.

Okay, Bill Press, I am all done with you.

[gratuitous]

22. Now, now everyone

{Adopting best schoolmarm Bill Press pose} When an illegally installed, corrupt regime starts a bogus war on trumped-up charges, and kills thousands and thousands of people, wastes billions and billions of dollars, and flushes America's image and prestige right down the crapper, you're supposed to register dismay or disapproval only with a pursed lip and perhaps a mild "Tut, tut."

Anything else is over the top. Play nice with the little butcher boys or I'll have to scold you again, you disrespectful so-and-sos!

[Puglover]

23. Wow Bill!

Have a nice cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP!
:evilgrin:

[Name removed]

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[ibegurpard]

25. May I be the first to invite you

to have a "nice cup of shut the fuck up?"
Welcome to DU...now please leave.

[Generator]

26. Maybe by doing what Gore did and telling the truth about "your" people

liars and criminals. And heh, if someone is torturing you and lying to you, I'd say you have a right to your righteous anger. Now go away.

Hey maybe will get enough votes like 2000 and not have the supreme court decide. Hmmm there's a plan.

[VOX]

29. So long, rrbbkk -- you've disrupted ever so poorly.

RIP.

[kentuck]

30. I should have copied his message !

:) But he didn't last long enough for the other DU'ers to enjoy his stupidity...

[Leilani]

27. Just my opinion,

Yesterday I read the transcript of the Gore speech, & I was amazed by it s power, & the strength of his arguments against the Bush cabal.

Last night, I watched the speech on C-Span, & thought it was better on paper.

Feel free to disagree, but Al Gore is not the most talented speech giver. It seemed that he was being overly dramatic for emphasis, not out of true passion.

His message was WONDERFUL...but I am afraid it was lost. Of course the media did not show any excerpts except the screams, which is what they did to Dean. But with Dean, I always felt it was sincere, & not an act.

It really is a shame, because he had powerful things to say, & they were lost in the coverage.

[kentuck]

31. i disagree.... I know a lot of people that say that but....

I've always thought Al Gore had great timing and delivery...

[Justice]

32. I so bloodly tired of the circular firing squad

These republicans have seriously, perhaps fatally, hurt our country.

How does one express to the millions of people who are paying attention that we have a real problem? With tea, crumpets, lace?

Let's US stop debating the pros and cons of niceness, and focus on repeating the substance of Al Gore's speech.

He is courageous and a patriot for not fading into the business world, and for sticking himself out there.

[Leilani]

35. I agree with what you say about the substance of the speech

It was wonderful! I think he is the first person to say publicly what needs to be said.

He connected all the dots. And it was powerful.

I still make the point, if the media does not cover it, who hears it but us, & we already agree with him.

And I think the media has always been unfair to Al Gore, stereotyping him as a jerk.

I do not know what we do...that is my problem...who heard the substance of the speech, except for us?

[vetwife]

34. Those media whores.. You never hear a winger say Rush is over the top !

I just got one thing to say to Press, and Dowd.....


ZELL NEEDS YOU DOWN AT HIS RECRUITING OFFICE FOR
BUSH....YOU MAY CHECK IN AND LEAVE
YOUR DONKEY DISQUISE
AT THE DOOR
THE GOP WILL GIVE YOU YOUR ELEPHANT
CLOTHES !

[shance]

36. What a terrific point.

thank ya :)

[vetwife]

37. Thank you...just a liberal observation !

[SemperEadem]

42. I disagree... I think the manner in which he delivered it

demonstrated how at ease he was. He was quite intellectually funny, his timing was good in his humor. I saw nothing 'put on' about it.

[VOX]

33. So, the "wooden policy wonk" Al Gore is now "over the top." WTF?????

Guess if you show **any** passion in speaking out publicly these days, you get branded as angry, over the top or insane.

What a comfort it is to have a pResident who lies through his teeth daily, has dragged the U.S. down into a cesspool of global shame, hatred and divisiveness, but is never, never called "over the top." (Except for the handlebars of his bicycle.)

[BiggJawn]

38. Is this one of the people who called Dean "Angry"?

Yeah, that's the DLC message, be meek, be quiet, don't make waves, in fact perhaps it'd be best if you adopted an attitude of extreme GRATITUDE to the ReTHUGlicans for not striking your head from your body (oops! not suppose to alude to beheadings, are we? it's "insensitive"...You want a Trudeau-style apology? Go Pound Sand)

Me LIKE the "over the top" Al Gore. Wish we had seen it 4 years ago.

[monchie]

39. I suppose Ronnie Reagan went "a little over the top"...

...when he said, "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall!:

[kentuck]

40. "I paid for this microphone !" , he screamed....

and they bragged about how passionate he can get about things he believed in - like microphones???

[SemperEadem]

41. Press is a panty-weight

anytime anyone raises their voice in justifiable anger against the blatant criminal behavior of Bushco, here comes another panty-weight, casting offal all over the spirit of the message's delivery.

There should be no such thing as any Democrat in office who is not angry at how this country has been steered so far off course. Every last one of them should be pissed--like Gore and like Dean was back when he was running. Our country's esteem has been bitch-slapped by the right wing and neocons and the most, it seemed, that the Dems could muster was a whimper every now and then.

[Cleita]

43. I used to like Bill Press because he had common sense at one

time. I think he's spent too much time with Pat Buchanan.

[Q]

44. Gore's hair looked funny and he wore the wrong color suit...

...and he perspired too much under the harsh lights. Any more RWing talking points?

- These insincere criticisms by pundits on the right and left are part of an agenda to keep Gore from an effective attack against Bush* or taking Kerry's spotlight. It's disappointing that both parties are attacking him.

[9215]

45. Then Bush's speech was under the bottom! nt

[RetroLounge]

46. Fuck Bill Press

need I say more?

RL

[robertpaulsen]

47. Boy, he's been sucking lately!

First, he calls for a draft. Now, he criticizes Al Gore for not being wooden enough. Are there any real liberals on cable news? Press is getting dangerously close to turning into Colmes.