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LiberalManiacfromOC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:02 PM
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I still hate people from orange county
Edited on Fri May-28-04 07:04 PM by LiberalManiacfromOC
I talked to the same girl again http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1678693&mesg_id=1678693 that was my first post about her.

Well, the bus was half an hour late so I was going home with my friend again. Of course, i saw that stupid girl again.SO, she walks up to me and says "You were wrong; my mom told me bush doesn't discriminate against gays, he just thinks marriage is between a man and a woman." So I said "oh, yeah; he doesn't discriminate against them, even though that's the exact definition of disrimination." But she was prepared this time. "Kerry dicriminates against gays, too" "Did I ever say I agreed with everything Kerry says?" "yes!" "no, I didn't. I said he's better than bush." "Oh, ok, then you do you believe in abortion." "I'm pro-choice." "WHAT! How can you want to kill a baby?!" "SO that it doesn't live a crappy life from a mother who can't take care of it." "What if your mom got an abortion? THEN YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE!" "My mom wanted to have me as a child. If i was going to have a crappy life she would have gotten an abortion." "I can't believe you." My friend's mom comes. "Well, I have to go. But just as a tip, think for yourself. DOn't regurgitate your mom's words." Then, as I walked towards the car I heard her screaming something stupid. But, I wasn't listening; I was laughing to hard at that point.

I hope to get in more fights with this girl. It pissed me off at first but it's starting to get fun :evilgrin: maybe I can convince her to change her mind (well, it never really was her opinion to start with)
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:05 PM
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1. the abortion rights debate
isn't about whether a child would have a good or a bad life. It's about whether the government has the power to compel a woman to give birth against her will. Pro-choice doesn't mean pro-abortion: it just means you're not willing to let the government force a woman to give birth.
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LiberalManiacfromOC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:06 PM
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2. Well, she wouldn't understand that
Edited on Fri May-28-04 07:07 PM by LiberalManiacfromOC
I have to make your reason understandable otherwise I can't have fun with the idiot.

Although, yes that's really what pro-choice is.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:32 PM
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15. well
you'll never convince somebody that abortion is OK "as long as the baby is unwanted". That totally misses the point.

It's not hard to argue that the government should not have the right to compel a woman to give birth against her will. How would they do it? Imprison her?
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LiberalManiacfromOC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:39 PM
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16. Eh, good point.
I'll tell her that on Tuesday once we get back. Thanks for pointing that out.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:09 PM
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3. Before I finished reading this I was thinking
"tell this republicanette to think for herself, her mother isn't a universal authority", but that's what you did, so nevermind.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:10 PM
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4. Tell her Bush paid for an abortion and he had his girfriend's
(Margie Shoedinger's) unborn child killed even though she wanted to carry it to term. The part about Margie's baby is on record in Texas.

All the pro-choice people want to do is to give women freedom.
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LiberalManiacfromOC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:11 PM
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5. LOL
I never knew about that. I have to spout it in her face next week! Thanks for the info. :)
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:12 PM
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6. I grew up in Imperial Beach. Moved to Long Beach.
ORANGE CO DOES SUCK. They need to move to a RED state. :)
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LiberalManiacfromOC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:14 PM
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7. i wish
even my teachers are like that. I keep asking if we can move but my mom thinks that we live in a "nice place."


She's a moderate, in case you're wondering
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:26 PM
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9. It's OK, Colorado Springs has a lot of Orange County's mentality.
Our newspaper owners are based there. But, we do fine. One thing to remember, if you want to try to change someone's mind don't always get into a shouting, arguing match. They just ram themselves into corner and have no clue how to get out. Humor, deprecation, a judiciously raised eyebrow may take you farther with the facts. Good luck. :D
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justjones Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:31 PM
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13. I'm in the LBC too....used to be in OC, but sadly, I still work there. n/t
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:24 PM
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8. Is she cute?
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LiberalManiacfromOC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:30 PM
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12. If you were in front of me i would slap you.
ANyways, she's a fatass :P
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justjones Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:29 PM
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10. I agree. Orange County sucks....
I just posted in a thread how I am being negatively influenced by the shallowness of Orange County. I've heard it referred to as the "Orange Curtain," because it's just so different, at least from Los Angeles.

Of course, it would be nicer to live in a much more progressive city, but then your views wouldn't be challenged as they are now. Best to start practicing now before heading off to college where the more educated Repubs dwell. In my experience, they're still basically ignorant, but articulate and more self righteous.

But you are doing such a good job defending your views....keep it up! Have you thought about joining a debate club at school (if they even have one). You never know, you may be one of our great young leaders of the Democratic party. Lord knows we need them.

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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:30 PM
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11. move to santa ana
or west county or the barrios in fullerton or anaheim. there's pockets of normalcy here and there. you can't possible hate us all :(
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LiberalManiacfromOC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:31 PM
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14. Well, it's really south OC
I'd move pretty much anywhere else though.
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