its that simple pick a dem (re: all the talk about a republican VP)

[JohnKleeb]

I respect McCain because he's willing to go against the republican party line same with Ron Paul but I dont wan't them as VP. Its that simple, a dem vp for a dem pres.

[Renew Deal]

1. My feelings on this cross party stuff...

I don't think it's because the dems are weak or people want to see Kerry dead. I think that people are so disgusted with the gang in charge now that they feel a unity ticket would help cure things. McCain is very popular and well liked. I think he would beat Kerry straight up. He probably would have beaten Gore considering he was polling better against him than Bush* was. It's not about the democrats or the pukes. It's about America.

[kentuck]

2. Wise beyond your years, young man....

It wouldn't matter if the Dems talked Dick Cheney into running with Kerry. Putting a Republican on the ticket is not going to unite the nation. It would probably cause the candidate to lose more Democratic votes than he would gain Republican. Just pick a good man that can take over if you are shot or die in office and kick the crap out of them. They are like the Arabs - they only respect power. :)

[JohnKleeb]

3. I am just saying simply

put a Dem VP for a dem pres, better yet a very good dem. Some are already reluctant to vote for Kerry as is, and putting Paul or McCain is gonna alienate em more. the VP is generally speaking, the chosen heir mostly, I sure as hell dont want McCain or Paul as the next pres after Kerry.

[kentuck]

8. I agree..

But most of the Democrats pushing McCain know he's not going to accept...But they want to keep the McCain supporters on the fence because most of them, and there were a lot of them, still remember SC and the way Bush treated their man....So it is political hay for the Democrats, in my opinion.

[onehandle]

4. Don't worry.

It won't happen. It's pointless speculation.

The base would run. We would lose.

McCain is just a headline whore.

[Th1onein]

5. I completely agree. It's a capitulation to their ideas about liberals.

THEY are the ones who slung the mud at the word "liberal." Why should we give them any credence at all? Absolutely! A DEM for VP. It's total idiocy to do otherwise.

[lastknowngood]

6. This is more likely vetting for the shrub's V.P. just think what would

happen now if crash cart withdrew for health reasons and the shrub picked McCain as his V.P. All of the so called swing voters and a large portion of the dem's would then switch to the shrub. This whole exercise by repugs and Kerry has been to promote McCain and to undermine Kerry and he seams to be part of the joke. I can't believe you people can't see this. It would swing 15 to 20% of the votes to the shrub, he would get the libertarian and the swing voters easy as well as some dumb dem's who think well then at least we would have and adult in the admin. Wake up people McCain is just another Nazi waiting for his chance at power.

[HFishbine]

11. Yep

Seems possible and after all the flirtations with McCain, the dems won't be able to credibly critisize him if he's on the ballot.

[Droopy]

7. I don't really understand why so many here

are suggesting we go with a repuke vp. It doesn't matter if the prospective vp is moderate or not, they still choose to align themselves with the dark side of the force. Fuck 'em. Let's get a real liberal in there for vp, not some wishy-washy moderate. Somebody further to the left than Kerry, that way after 8 years of Kerry, we'll be able to get even more of our agenda through when said vp wins the presidency.

[JohnKleeb]

9. its just like wtf

using that mentally, why not have Ayn Rand head the treasury. For christ sakes.

[DemBones DemBones]

13. Except, of course, that she's dead.

:evilgrin:

But Dems might as well run a Kerry + Dead Person ticket as a Kerry + Republican ticket.

Thanks for starting this thread, John! Long time no see :hi:

[JohnKleeb]

14. yeah Ive been around since my brother isnt around much

thank god. I know Rand is dead, which is part of my point lol. how you been DBDB? do we still get anti-catholics? and how have the Kucinich people been?

[klyon]

10. Dems have tried putting Repugs in their administration

Dems have tried putting Repugs in their administration it never works.
Repugs would never do it, so why should we.
After all the stuff during Clinton's term and now this administration, I am not voting for repugs period.

KL

[JohnKleeb]

15. I am happy I guess with Kerry as the nom but some arent

and I think a republican VP will only add to their frustration and built the notion that the two parties are one and the same.

[stevedeshazer]

12. You are right, JohnKleeb

We don't need McCain on the ticket to win.

For all the respect McCain gets here, much of it unjustified, it boggles my mind that some Democrats continue to advocate the adoption of a right-wing senator who is anti-choice, pro-Iraq war, pro-tax cut and on and on as our Vice-Presidential candidate. :wtf:

The Republicans already control:

-The White House
-House of Representatives
-Senate
-Supreme Court
-media outlets
-Wall Street

So, I'm supposed to get excited about John Freaking McCain to balance the ticket?

I'm with you, buddy.

[JohnKleeb]

16. the VP is generally also the heir

I like McCain as a man but I dont want him to be the heir to Kerry's seat.

[Mojambo]

17. How about we amend that to a PROGRESSIVE Dem for VP

Evan Bayh is a democrat, but a very conservative one. Not all democrats are created equal.

Joe Lieberman was a democrat, we all know how that worked out. People should be just as outraged by Bayh's consideration as they are by McCain's IMO

[JohnKleeb]

18. even better thinking

Bayh I dont want at all. I should have added that, thanks.

[robbedvoter]

19. The GOP scenario is GOP made: insult us and Mccain in one stroke

Whomever believe it - OK, I'll be kind.
Kerry will make a good choice.