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Fri Jun-18-04 06:14 PM
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Michael Moore on NBC's Dateline tonight at 7p (central)! |
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He'll be talking about the flick, I assume. Can we DU NBC's Nielsen ratings?
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Fri Jun-18-04 06:18 PM
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1. Do you know if it is a whole segment dedicated to F911 nt? |
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Fri Jun-18-04 06:27 PM
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2. No, I don't think so. At least half, if I'm reading the listing correctly |
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Fri Jun-18-04 06:35 PM
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Both Reagan and Moore will be on.
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Fri Jun-18-04 06:28 PM
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3. I think it's the box office which we need to DU. |
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If you want to give the movie extra help, invite more people to go with you or see it twice.
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Fri Jun-18-04 06:30 PM
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4. I've got that covered. |
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I wish I could get advance tix on Fandango for the theatre near me, but they aren't available yet.
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Fri Jun-18-04 06:38 PM
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6. Thanks for letting us know. |
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It's 6:38 Friday so I am going to be sure and watch him.
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Fri Jun-18-04 06:58 PM
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7. Welcome to DU, graphannette! |
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Good to have you!
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:01 PM
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8. Kick, on now Eastern time |
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:04 PM
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9. Plus: Ron Reagan Jr.--and he is pissed! |
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:04 PM
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why does freeper matt lousyer have to do the interview?
he's so repulsive. and i have a feeling i'm gonna throw something thru the tv screen tonight watching.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:19 PM
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17. I have my TV brick ready! |
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He (Louser) really is a putz.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:04 PM
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11. they're airing the one listed as second |
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first tonight. The one about the vegas homicide is on now, tv listings say that should be on at 9 not 8pm. I guess the one with moore won't be on until 9pm.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:06 PM
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12. Does anyone else here have Direct TV? I'm on Mountain |
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Time and can't find Dateline anywhere.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:30 PM
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Hi,
I have Direct TV....Central time zone....it's on Channel 5.
Cheers, Kim
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:10 PM
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13. hey i am getting suadi beheading thing |
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everyone else. on nbc isnt it
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:11 PM
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:13 PM
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i always forget to watch things i want to see in evenong, actually remembered, wasnt there, got paranoid
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:17 PM
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16. Matt Lauer is such a douchebag. |
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Hard-hitting interview...HA! He's pulling a Hannity - all volume.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:20 PM
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18. He is a freakin' nimrod. |
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He should get the business end of DU after this one!
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:25 PM
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:25 PM
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19. "You said Disney censored you. Why?" |
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Ship him somewhere far, far away.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:26 PM
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22. Weinstein's a dem...WHO THE FUCK CARES YOU TWIT! |
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:29 PM
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23. Lauer is now on MY shitlist! |
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Edited on Fri Jun-18-04 07:30 PM by in_cog_ni_to
What a bastard! Why should HE care that the Weinstein's are Dems? At least the movie will now be seen! Sheesh....another WH shill??? I'm so sick of this crap.:grr:
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:32 PM
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25. Send it to the DoD? GOD Lauer is a fucking MORON! |
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:33 PM
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26. Cheerleaders for the War! |
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Michael Moore taking it to Lauer. Haha!
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:41 PM
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36. I totally agree with Moore on this! The MEDIA is culpable in this war. |
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They totally trumped up the war before hand and whipped foolish Amerikunz into a frenzy.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:46 PM
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42. Nothing like a shooting war to pump up the bottom line ... |
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Edited on Fri Jun-18-04 07:46 PM by Pepperbelly
Ask William Randolph Hearst.
ROSEBUD!
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:52 PM
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44. Exactly! And, considering GE (Weapons MFGR) owns much of the media |
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:34 PM
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27. Mr. Lauer, meet Mr. Rusty Chainsaw! |
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:38 PM
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31. The film is rate R, I suppose that is designed to keep soon to be 18 year |
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18 olds from watching so as not to discourage them from enlisting at 18.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:44 PM
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41. Everyone can see this film |
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as long as they're accompanied by someone OVER 18. No problem--we'll just start an "escort" service to the theaters!
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Fri Jun-18-04 09:56 PM
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71. the age is actually 17 for R films |
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depending on the anality of the theater, you must have a parent present if you are under 17.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:54 PM
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45. Oh, please--I bought tix for an R movie when I was 13! |
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Theaters want your money.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:34 PM
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He's saying if Lauer would have asked these same tough questions of the chimp and his cabal...maybe there wouldn't have been a war. Good one Michael. Now, I'm going to go and send a not so nice email to Lauer. What an asshole. :grr:
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:44 PM
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The interview wasn't even over before I was already sending an email off to Dateline.
I reiterated Moore's question...."Why didn't you ask Bush the hard questions?"
I'm still steamed.....:mad:
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:37 PM
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29. wow, michael is a damn rock! |
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solid, articulate, quick-toed and smart as hell.
he cleaned lauer's clock in my opinion.
and i loved when he said "if only you'd been this tough on the bush administration, maybe we wouldn't be in war."
and when lauer was saying there was politics in the movie, moore responded "yeh, there politics in this interview, too."
solid performance. i'm an even BIGGER moore fan now.
way to go!
(lauer, eat me.)
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:44 PM
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40. for once ... I can say "Right on!" to your entire post. |
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Lauer was ham-handed in his attacks, each turned deftly back on him and proved EXACTLY what Michael was saying right in the interview.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:37 PM
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30. Moore slams Lauer for being soft on Bush! |
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Yeah, why didn't Lauer question Bush? Gee, I wonder, Matt--what stopped you?
Twit.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:38 PM
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32. Stick around, DUers! Round 2 of Bush-Bash with Ron Reagan Jr.! |
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Will we hear more fecal comparisons?
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:39 PM
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pinning the responsibility squarely on laur shoulder. adn good for them not cutting that. good for moore
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:40 PM
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34. Lauer scolds Moore for doing REPORTING |
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for getting good footage of Iraq.
I guess Lauer would rather everyone stick to Pentagon propaganda footage.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:41 PM
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35. Yes Matt, YOU failed in YOUR responsibilities to inform the public |
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There would have been no invasion/occupation of Iraq had the media fulfilled its responsibility to inform, not mislead, the public.
MM just slapped that cardboard cut-out speechless.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:43 PM
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38. ergo the movie woukldnt have to have been made |
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and moore wouldnt have been sittin in front of laur, if laur had done his job, lol
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:41 PM
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37. Mattie-boy proved everything Michael said about the media was ... |
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spot on.
What a bubble-headed freak.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:51 PM
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43. And Ron Jr. gives Shrub the business! |
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Dude, why couldn't Ron have been the Repub son to be in the WH now? Our system is totally irrational.
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:55 PM
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46. I need a drink after sitting through Lauer |
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either that or I need a revolver to shoot out my TV...Elvis style!!!!
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:00 PM
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I am so pissed off right now. He didn't even try to hide his bias. He was so damn blatant about it! Damn the media!
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:04 PM
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49. its just so discouraging |
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I'm pretty pissed as well. Mike did well but Lauer accomplished what he wanted... Double Damn the Media!!!!!
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:08 PM
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52. i dont think it was discouraging, and yes horrible |
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Edited on Fri Jun-18-04 08:09 PM by seabeyond
and no didnt even try to hide his disdain of movie, nor did the dude last nite talking it on hardball. tweety wasnt there and the man taking his place interviewed quomo the same way. so strong i wanted to mention of the board
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is looking to me like media has been givin instruction on how to handle this movie. adn screw them
like moore said, if you had been all doing your job, maybe there wouldnt have been a war,............and certainly there wouldnt have been the need for moore to make movie to get the truth out
interesting this was
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Fri Jun-18-04 07:58 PM
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47. Moore just cleaned Lauer's Clock |
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Lauer is a shill. I loved watching--- Moore knows the facts and won't be fucked with by any puff show host.
Lauer should stick to interviewing people, whose dogs do cute tricks--- LOL
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:05 PM
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50. Yep! MM made ML look like the goofy prick he is. |
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:07 PM
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51. Matt didn't surprise me at all |
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Edited on Fri Jun-18-04 08:07 PM by DaveSZ
We are talking about NBC - propaganda arm of GE, and part of the military industrial complex.
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Fri Jun-18-04 09:46 PM
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69. I missed it saigon... |
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I did see a bit this morning on the today show though. Matt really is a total bushbot. How the fuck he sleeps at night I will never know.
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Sat Jun-19-04 04:45 AM
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75. It was worth watching |
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Moore pointed out there were only a few news organizations left. Lauer was getting angry near the end. It was fun, to see Moore shred Lauer's every statement.
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:08 PM
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53. Flame me for this, but Lauer did a decent job |
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Reporters are supposed to ask tough questions. He didn't take it easy on Moore, and he shouldn't have. And Moore nailed every question.
Now, if only Lauer and his ilk were that tough with people that really deserve to be grilled...
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:23 PM
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55. Hacking up quotations in an attempt to blindside is not ... |
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part of doing a good job.
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:23 PM
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56. They put as the last word on the Sept. 13 flights that... |
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...the FBI and the bipartisan commission say everything is hunky dory with flying 140 Saudis, some of them bin Ladens, out of the country after quick interviews or no interviews, so it must be true.
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:31 PM
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57. Yes, of everyone else, BushCo. interviews are *scripted* |
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... remember Bush's press conference when he let THAT = "this is scripted" slip. You just can't make this stuff up. I wish that I didn't know better for I'd be drinking shots of Jack Black straight.
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:46 PM
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58. What does Harvey Weinstein's Democrats connections have to... |
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do with the business of this film???
Matt Lauer belongs in GITMO!!!
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:50 PM
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59. A good reporter is supposed to play 'devil's advocate' |
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They are supposed to ask questions that the doubters are asking.
I'm not full-on kissing Lauer's ass, but if he treats all his subjects like this, I'll start to respect him a little.
Like I said, Moore deserved to be grilled. He does not deserve pampering. He stirs up a lot of shit, and he deserves to be called on the carpet for it. And, to his credit, he came very well prepared.
BTW: I'm a big Michael Moore fan.
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:53 PM
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61. but riddle me this ... |
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do you think that selectively editing quotations within the questions is doing a good job? For my part, I think that is unethical and does not equal a good questioning as much as a gotcha-attempt that Michael foiled with deftness.
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:57 PM
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63. It's a 'gotcha' question |
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To see if Moore is on top of things.
And yes, he was.
The crew of '60 Minutes' has been doing this kind of stuff for years, and they are arguably the best in the profession.
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:54 PM
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Why did they end the interview the way they did? See post #54. That seems to me almost intentionally misleading. 90 people weren't interviewed from those Saudi flights, including members of Bin Laden's family and yet if you're not paying close attention to what is said, it seems that all is just "honky dory" with those flights.
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:21 PM
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54. This part was obnoxious |
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Moore: "Well, just they way you just edited that. Why don't you read there were over 140 Saudis that were allowed to leave the country in these days after 9/11 and of the 140, only 30 were interviewed? They got special help. They were put first in line because of this relationship between the Bush family and the Saudi royal family and I wish somebody would just say that."
How accurate is Moore's information? But the bipartisan 9/11 Commission supports the FBI's conclusion that, "Nobody was allowed to depart on these six flights who the FBI wanted to interview in connection with the 9/11 attacks, or who the FBI later concluded had any involvement in those attacks." The Commission report states that: "To date we have uncovered no evidence to contradict this conclusion."
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Maybe if they interviewed those 140 people more thoroughly, they would have learned something. 90 weren't interviewed at all.
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:52 PM
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60. Hmmm, Moore Can Edit The Film Right Up Until Release |
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Maybe he'll put this interview in the film and comment on it...
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:58 PM
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Needs to be done three weeks prior to release, in order to strike the film prints.
Plus, getting the rights release for this would take a long time.
DVD, perhaps?
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Fri Jun-18-04 09:05 PM
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Oh well...I'm sure the DVD will be full of goodies and out before the election...
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Fri Jun-18-04 09:07 PM
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68. B4C had some nice goodies |
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Including Moore's description of his Oscar speech (he couldn't get the rights to put the video of the speech on the DVD).
Moore also did a sequel to "Roger and Me" called "Pets or Meat", that covered a lot of the post-film happenings.
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Fri Jun-18-04 09:48 PM
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70. The film's already "in the can," dizzawg |
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Ain't no more editing now.
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Fri Jun-18-04 08:59 PM
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65. They didn't even have the list of Saudi passengers leaving. |
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Fri Jun-18-04 09:02 PM
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66. Matt Lauer is trying to prove that he is a REAL REPORTER |
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instead of a doofus who makes cakes and interviews survivor contestants on television. He was trying to ask the "tough" questions. But it sucked and Moore was able to easily take him down. Matt needs to stick to Barbara Wa Wa type interviews. :dem:
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Fri Jun-18-04 10:21 PM
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72. Waiting on the West Coast |
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I haven't seen the interview yet, but I thought it was awesome they showed two of the movie clips that show the corrupt side of Bush.
"This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have-mores" and "Some call you the elite, I call you my base." I wonder how many people who are completely out of the truth loop jumped when they saw that.
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Fri Jun-18-04 11:05 PM
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Mr. Moore did a great job. Screw N.B.C. But this did give Mr. Moore free advertising for the movie.
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Fri Jun-18-04 11:10 PM
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74. Lauer is full of shit. However, |
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some good stuff from the film made it onto the tube - the revealing clips of the chimp that illustrate what an arrogant prick he is - showed middle America a side of him they've never seen before. If Michael Moore has to endure the media bias in order to get the message out, it's a small price to pay. Eyes were being opened tonight.
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