AP Poll: Most Rate Reagan Over Clinton

[CatWoman]

Peggy Noonan must be quaking in orgasmic bliss........

WASHINGTON - Most Americans say Ronald Reagan (news - web sites), who died this month, will be remembered as a better president than Bill Clinton (news - web sites), who is trying to improve his image with a new autobiography, according to an Associated Press poll.

Seven in 10 say history will judge Reagan superior, based on the survey conducted one week after the Republican icon's state funeral and nonstop media coverage focused not only on the ceremonies marking his death at age 93 but a lifetime of achievements from Hollywood to the White House.

Out of office just 3 1/2 years, Clinton recently returned to the limelight with a prime-time interview to publicize his memoir, "My Life," which goes on sale Tuesday. The expectation long before the 957-page book reached the stores was a tome that would provide insights into the sexual scandal with a White House intern and impeachment — the nadir of the Clinton presidency.

"I think Reagan will be remembered as the better president, just because of the kind of man he was," said Judy Humphrey, a 66-year-old retiree from Palmyra, N.Y. "I didn't have a lot of respect for Clinton because of his personal life, though he may have done some good things."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=716&e=7&u=/ap/20040621/ap_on_el_pr/presidents_ap_poll

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[lancdem]

6. LOL

[LiviaOlivia]

21. From similar thread at LBN

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=636480&mesg_id=636480

Jay Bradfield writes:

Face it folks, Reagan is popular because he believed in something, and fought for it.

Clinton, what was it that he believed in again? Triangulation? OR whatever Dick Morris told him to believe that week.

Hate to break it to you Dems but until the Democratic part has real progressive visionaries as leaders recent Dem presidents are going to be less popular than Reagan.

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[redqueen]

2. Just goes to show

how many Americans believe PR over facts.

The commercial said so! :eyes:

[wyldwolf]

3. But let's do a little more comparing

One solid week of basically making Reagan a saint vs. All Monica All The Time all over again now on TV.

But still, Clinton's impact is hard to ignore.

Copied from Drudge:

22 SHARE FOR CLINTON AT '60 MINUTES'.... AUDIENCE GREW TO 24 SHARE IN SECOND HALF... TOP SHOW OF NIGHT, PROJECTED MOST-WATCHED SHOW OF WEEK... HIGH: 36 MAX SHARE IN SAN FRAN; 35 SHARE MINNEAPOLIS; 31 SHARE KANSAS CITY...

Clinton book on Amazon.com Top Ten -- three times!

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So where is the similar stats on anything Reagan?

[lancdem]

7. I was wondering about the ratings

And he did such a tremendous job in that interview, too.

[Mz Pip]

4. It's all irrelevant

Reagan's dead and Clinton is no longer president.

This is just another diversion to take the focus off of what a waste of molecules Bush is.

Let Peggy have her orgasms. Just as long as I don't have to watch.

MzPip
:dem:

[Zorra]

5. I bet, that if in this same poll they also asked

"What state is Chicago in", most of the people that chose Reagan over Clinton would give the wrong answer.

[agates]

8. I thought it said

AP Poll: Most Hate Reagan Over Clinton and I thought, well, of course...

[59millionmorons]

9. Oh please

And they will run the same poll a week after Clintons passing and he will be the greatest President in history. Who is going to bad mouth a EX President who just died? This poll was taken to close to his death.

[DaveSZ]

10. The corporate media props up Reagan's image as ideal

That way they can keep the masses stupid and voting for corporate hegemony.

[lovedems]

11. The Ronathon served as "hug a conservative" week.

If they wanted these kinds of results, polling while the flag draped coffin was still fresh in everyone minds was the way to go!

I say they ask again at a future date and then see the results. Those would probably be more accurate.

[Gloria]

12. Once again, the media creates a story just for the hell of it.....in this

case, to deflate Clinton during HIS week. During Raygun's funeral, why didn't they run a poll on how many people lost their jobs around 1981??

I did. But nobody's asking now.........

[Dimsdale]

13. 7 in 10 buy the hype...

Nobody with whom I'm acquainted believes Reagan to be "superior" to Clinton. And might we not hear about something other than his personal life in regard to his book. Mainstream media are herniating themselves in an effort to repeat as often as possible that Clinton's legacy is Monicagate and the book an effort to "provide insights into the sexual scandal with a White House intern". Reagen and his "ideals and principals". Give us all a fucking break.

[radwriter0555]

14. Good thing Clinton isn't running for office!

**whew**

[merh]

15. My favorite part of this article is:

"Asked whether Reagan or the current president, George W. Bush, will be remembered as a better president, 76 percent said Reagan and 12 percent said Bush. Three-fourths of Republicans said Reagan, about the same margin for Democrats and independents."

Deadmen tell no tales!

[sendero]

16. Tell them to be sure....

.... and poll again when Clinton passes on.

[tom_paine]

17. AP is a wholly corrupted and untrustworthy organization

ESPECIALLY their polls.

The Imperial Family wouldn't have hired them to create Phony Exit Polls which agree with Bushevik tampering (and superseding the more-difficult-to-fix-because-of-multiple-organizational-participation, Voter News Service, which conveniently "went down" in 2002, the year of so many mysterious and unprecedented Imperial "upsets".

[spanone]

18. Wait till historians visit this all without the Reagan hysteria

Right now is not a fair gauge. People are still hipmotized by a whole week of Ronnie. Reagan was mediocre at best and criminal at worse.

[tjwash]

19. Like it matters.

I'm less concerned about that, than even the polls showing Kerry is ahead of bush here, and behind him there. Polls for anything, including presidential elections don't mean squat, because the electoral college means there are fifty different elections happening at once, and not one large election. That's probably the biggest thing the Florida fiasco in 2000 taught me.

All a poll is, is propaganda material.

[Deja Q]

20. Judy Humphrey is a twit. So is anybody who puts personality above ability

Reagan was hardly the man for the job.

Clinton got immorally sucked, but Reagan did all the immoral fucking.

Click on sig line link for more...

[ElementaryPenguin]

22. Even though Raygun was a divorcee'? Personal life is ALL that matters!

What dumb fucks!! They WOULD think RayDumb was better!

:silly:
:crazy:

[TexasSissy]

23. Well, not enough time has passed, for one thing. Second,

Clinton DID have that scandal. That is obviously going to affect any ratings of him.

[jmowreader]

24. It's not like Reagan had any scandals

such as the S&L scandal, Wedtech, Iran-Contra...

but he made Gorbachev tear down the wall--ten months after he went back to California.

[Old and In the Way]

25. 7 of 10 people thought Iraq was involved with 9/11.

So what?

7 of 10 people ought to stop believing what the boob tube tells them and get educated on what really transpired in the Reagan and Clinton administrations.

Luckily, history will be far more objective about the results and capabilities of both men.....Regan was a stage managed actor who played at being President. Bill Clinton had the requisite intelligence and vision that expanded our economy, significantly furthered US interests abroad, and accomplished both without losing any soldiers in action that he put them in.