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nixonwasbetterthanW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 12:37 PM
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Plame/Bush speculation thread ... what did they ask?

WH says they met for 70 minutes.

There had to be a lot of questions.

Did Fitzgerald spend the time querying about what Bush knew of the actions of his immediate underlings? Did he ask him whether and, if so, how he learned of Plame's identity?

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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 12:38 PM
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1. I wonder if Bush told the truth
He said publicly he knew nothing about it. Now, I'm pretty sure that's a lie.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 01:19 PM
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10. As usual, he wasn't testifying under oath
Kind of makes you wonder, doesn't it?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 12:40 PM
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2. It's the old what did he know
and when did he know it. Will he be the last one questioned before the indictments are handed out? He's top man on the totem pole.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 12:43 PM
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3. an hour and a half is a long time. especially for President Crackhead
he'll be named as an unindicted co-conspirator next week.

happy 4th of July, KKKarl! you're going to jail!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 12:45 PM
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4. Fitzgerald is not asking
if bush had knowledge of the Plame outting before it happened. He was asked specifically about discussions he is believed to have listened to, involving Rove and Cheney, in which a strategy for a "cover up" was discussed. As in so many cases similar to this, the participating in an organized cover up involves more people committing more crimes than the original crime. We are now three weeks from the shit hitting the fan, folks. Sit back and enjoy it.
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abcdan Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 12:52 PM
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5. Where did you get your info? Thanks. (nt)
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 01:04 PM
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7. I second the request. n/t
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 01:03 PM
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6. Three weeks?
I don't want to wait that long!!!!!!
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 01:20 PM
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11. BTW, I think I figured out the significance
of your July 14 date.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 01:36 PM
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14. I've been saying
Edited on Thu Jun-24-04 01:37 PM by H2O Man
that this would take cheney out of the running in mid-July since around January. Maybe six weeks ago, I suggested that DUers buy a great bottle of wine or perhaps some very good beer, and have it chilled to the proper temperature by July 13th at midnight. Cheese & crackers, shrimp, whatever you enjoy.

I will say this: there are certain forces that you do not mess with. It doesn't matter who you are -- or think you are -- there are some forces that when you cross them .... you just got to pay your dues. Cheney, Rove -- and a few of their underlings -- are going to learn that the hard way. "Tighten your seat belts, boys, you're ride on the Plame case is about to begin!"
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 01:29 PM
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13. Agreed
Like your typical investigations in novels and movies...

The interrogator strips the interviewee naked and then rapes them with a a flashlight while someone puts panties on their head and takes photos....oh wait...sorry that's Rumsfeldian interrogation...


Lots of levels...in a cover up.

I bet Fitz gave the President the chance to tell the truth. Then confronting them with evidence asked specific pointed questions to indeed see to what depth other conversations are corroborated. If CHimpy was flatly denying it would not of lasted 70 minutes. Chimpy sang knowing his ass is now directly on the line. He may even be pissed at Karl for allowing him to be put in this situation. Where he has to either:

1. Trust KKKarl completly and stick to the story and risk falling REALLY hard before election.

2. Sing and save his ass and hadle the heat of the failure of his advisors. (really only hope of even a slim chance in election)

3. Threaten the investigator. (I highly doubt this will happen)

either way....his re-election is in dire straights. He needs to now focus on staying out of jail....

Indictments are coming make no question about that. They will happen before the election and will happen very soon.

I suspect Fitzgearld already has the who and when and part of the interview was informing the President as to what was going down and how he was going to be part. IN addition to determining if Bush was part of the coverup. I suspect as well that no one below Bush would implicate him in having knowlege but he may end up being part of the subsequent coverup by remaining silent until now.


Oh how I would of loved to been a fly on the wall.....

Great fun speculating too....




Chimpy could implicate Dick or Karl directly in his answers.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 01:08 PM
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8. Nothing that would offend the boy-King
who could crush Fitzgerald between his fingers like a cigarette butt, though he probably can't Wellstone him.

Does Fitzgerald's Honor and Sense of Duty to Country outweigh his Fear of Character Assassination (with just the slightest hint of danger of perhaps a real one?) and Other Imperial Reprisals?

We'll find out. Fitzgerald has a sterling reputation, but I have seen others with sterling reputations cower at the first sign of displeasure from the Imperial Family.

Time will tell, ONLY time will tell.

But I gave what I think inthe subject line.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 01:10 PM
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9. if I were questioning Bush ...
... the first thing I'd ask him is, "What in the fuck is wrong with you, Mister President? Really. What is your PROBLEM?"
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 01:23 PM
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12. "Mister President... One Question:
Do you have the means to stock up on cigarettes and porn? They're like currency where you're going. You won't be able to trade in no-bid contract there, no sir. It's either cigarettes and porn, or you become someone's girlfriend."

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