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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 10:44 AM
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I can't think about Ted Olson w/o thinking about his wife's murder
Sometimes I wonder how he feels about his boss basically slacking off on his duty to hunt down his wife's killer.
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dodger501 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 10:45 AM
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1. Oh, I don't know
Wasn't there a picture of him a couple weeks afterward, a shit-eating grin on his face, boogaloo'ing at the clubs?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 10:48 AM
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2. Call me a bastard, but I have mixed feelings about her murder...
and ONLY her murder. She was a very vile person.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 10:54 AM
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3. I don't
sure she was an evil Bush whore but she was still a victim of a horrific terrorist act.
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Tosca Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:08 AM
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5. She was a very vile person.

Yes. A Coulter wannabee.
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:23 AM
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12. She was a disgrace to the legal profession
when bad peole die I don't feel sorry. sorry.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:05 AM
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4. It sure didn't take much rime for him to find a replacement
I strongly suspect the present Mrs. Olson was already on the string.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:22 AM
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11. Even if your baseless accusation were true
It's still gotta hurt deeply to lose a spouse to a senseless, sensational act of murder. They shared a life together, she cell phoned for him when she realized she was probably going to die. And then BushCo let her murderers get away. It's pretty sickening.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:19 AM
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6. You know, he never really looked all that upset when he was doing...
...interviews pretty soon after 911. JMHO.

He also gave different versions of the cell-phone conversations he had with his wife on Flight 77.

<http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&startpos=700#a907cardwarning>

Excerpt:

"(9:25 a.m.)

A passenger on Flight 77, Barbara Olson, calls her husband, Theodore (Ted) Olson, who is Solicitor General at the Justice Department. Ted Olson is in his Justice Department office watching WTC news on television when his wife calls. A few days later, he says, 'She told me that she had been herded to the back of the plane. She mentioned that they had used knives and box cutters to hijack the plane. She mentioned that the pilot had announced that the plane had been hijacked.' He tells her that two planes have hit the WTC. She feels nobody is taking charge. He doesn't know if she was near the pilots, but at one point she asks, 'What shall I tell the pilot? What can I tell the pilot to do?' Then she gets cut off without warning. Ted Olson' recollection of the call's timing is extremely vague, saying it 'must have been 9:15 or 9:30. Someone would have to reconstruct the time for me.' Other accounts place it around 9:25. The call is said to have lasted about a minute. By some accounts, his warning of that planes have hit the WTC comes later in a second phone call (see (After 9:30 a.m.)). In one account, Barbara Olson calls from inside a bathroom. In another account, she is near a pilot, and in yet another she is near two pilots. Three days after 9/11, he says, 'I found out later that she was having, for some reason, to call collect and was having trouble getting through. You know how it is to get through to a government institution when you're calling collect.' He says he doesn't know what kind of phone she used, but he has 'assumed that it must have been on the airplane phone, and that she somehow didn't have access to her credit cards. Otherwise, she would have used her cell phone and called me.' But in another interview on the same day, he says that she used a cell phone and that she may have gotten cut off 'because the signals from cell phones coming from airplanes don't work that well.' Six months later, he claims she called collect 'using the phone in the passengers' seats.' Many other details are conflicting, and Olson faults his memory and says that he 'tends to mix the two up because of the emotion of the events.' The couple liked to joke that they were at the heart of what Hillary Clinton famously called a 'vast, right-wing conspiracy.' Ted Olson was a controversial choice as Solicitor General, since he argued on behalf of Bush before the Supreme Court in the 2000 presidential election controversy before being chosen. Barbara Olson was known for her extremely partisan attacks on President Clinton. For instance, a few weeks before 9/11 she had called Clinton's mother a 'barfly' who let herself be used by men. Some have questioned if Ted Olson can be trusted in his account of the call, since he has stated that lying to the public is justifiable. "



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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:19 AM
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7. I can separate the two...
Before AND after his wife's death, he was a vile, sour, persimmon-faced, evil, cutthroat, venomously partisan legal hack of the sort that the right always identifies progressive lawyers to be. His mean-spirited harridan of a wife's death in no way tempered my dislike for him. And while it is a tragedy for anyone to lose a loved one. especially in so cruel and horriffic a manner, my empathy towards his loss is for that reason only—for the loss. Not for the neanderthal politics his barracuda-esque late wife espoused. I despised her in life and her death has not and will not make me like her, as her death will not soften me towards him.

He has my condolences for his loss. But he's still a bastard, and she was a über-creep and her "untimely" death will not change either fact in my mind.

See ya Ted... wouldn't wanna be ya.
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:19 AM
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8. I get your point - Chimperor never mentions al-Queda without connecting
Edited on Sat Jun-26-04 11:22 AM by demo@midlife
it to Saddam or Iraq.

But Olson is so partisan that he's probably letting all of that go in order to hold on to corrupt rethuglican power. The real truth, that I read in Blinded by the Right by David Brock, about his secretive involvement in the Clinton perjury trap and the rethug propaganda to bring down a sitting president proves this. It was an absolute eye-opener and I have no reason to doubt David Brock on that.

If he had been in a more prominent role within the GOP in the early 70's, he would probably have served time for involvement in Watergate. I'm convinced of that.

Sorry, but every time I hear or think of Ted Olson (and his late wife, for that matter) I think of deliberate deceit and their part in the "right-wing conspiracy." Not "vast", maybe, but definitely a reality. Brock's most recent book may not mention it, but Id' recommend checking out a copy of "Blinded" from the local library if you need to know more.

(Edited to add book title I'd omitted)
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swinney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:19 AM
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9. Horseteeth is gone. Burning now.
A very vile, mean, vicious person. No place in Heaven for her type.
Ann Coulter please join her soon.
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:19 AM
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10. Could this be why Olsen is leaving in July?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:31 AM
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13. Nah, he's about to lose some major rulings from SCOTUS. It's a face saver
They're gonna get their hats handed to them over some torture decisions in the next month. Ted's just cashing out before the November rush starts lowering the asking price for ex-Bush Admin second stringers. He'll be lobbying for the big bucks by Columbus Day.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:34 AM
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14. Well, he didn't resign after 9/11 so it's hard to think he thought Shrub
murdered his wife.
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