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PoliticsSportsMusic Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:25 PM
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Didn't F911 prove that mainstream media has been....
complicit in one of the dirtiest tricks ever played on the American people,the Iraq war? I suggest we use the incredible numbers that F911 is getting,as a sledgehammer. It's only in 800 theaters yet beat the competition,who were in over 2.5 times as many theaters!!!! Incredible numbers!!! E-mail..the major network news agencies let them know that the movie opened your eyes to the lies they have contributed to...point out the incredible numbers F911 is showing...point out that many more people will be viewing the movie...tell them...ahh you'll figure it out but do something,HUH! We have a sledgehammer lets use it....the only thing that beats corporate money is a critical mass of citizens in a uproar.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:28 PM
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1. Are the box office numbers out yet?
If so, is there a link? I'm curious...
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:30 PM
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2. Check them out...Friday estimates
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:34 PM
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4. holy crap!! $8.3 Million?
and I bet that's low, hope it grows legs and stays out there for a while :bounce:
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Still_Loves_John Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:35 PM
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5. It sounds low because
Normally when you hear how well a movie does you hear the weekend numbers. So multiply that by three.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:55 PM
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14. Plus it's only on 800 something screens
It's per screen average is ASTRONOMICAL!

This movie is huge.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:31 PM
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3. Yep! That is why they are skewering Moore with wingnut talking points..
Moore is making them look as bad as he is making bush look.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:37 PM
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6. Darn right they're complicit .


Fahrenheit 9/11
Burning Bush: Fahrenheit 9/11 is a timely exposé of Dubya's perfidy and the media's subservience

By Jeannette Catsoulis


Seated opposite a hostile Matt Lauer on a recent episode of NBC's "Dateline," a Buddha-like Michael Moore, hands clasped comfortably beneath his substantial belly, smiled genially at his infuriated host. "How can you say you didn't set out to make a political movie?" railed Lauer, clearly forgetting he was fronting a soft-core infotainment program. "Isn't this film a direct attack on George W. Bush?" "Well, if you put it that way," chuckled Moore, "yes, of course it is."

The kicker would come a few minutes later, as Moore pointedly remarked that it would be nice if Lauer and his fellow "journalists" would subject Bush himself to such incisive questioning. A utopian idea, perhaps--at least by today's groveling media standards--and one raised coincidentally just a few weeks earlier by Jon Stewart on Comedy Central's "The Daily Show." After screening a clip of a London Times reporter ferociously grilling Prime Minister Tony Blair on his fudging of intelligence reports, Stewart turned to the camera with his trademark look of baffled innocence. "Where do we get one of those?" he inquired.

Where, indeed, is the question that informs every frame of Fahrenheit 9/11, an appalling and timely exposé of the connections, machinations, and financial dealings of the Bush administration. But as shocking as these are, the movie's most devastating indictment is reserved implicitly for our mainstream news media, whose indolence, subservience and cowardice appear immeasurable. As one horrifying image follows another, and each revelation is superseded by one even more disturbing, the deficiencies of the fourth estate cannot be ignored. Why is it left to Moore to present us with an uncensored copy of Bush's military records, and disclose coherently the highly suspect actions of Dubya's relatives in the 2000 election debacle? And how does Moore manage to embed his own camera crews in Iraq--obtaining footage of civilian casualties and abuse of Iraqi prisoners well before Abu Ghraib--while our networks feed us the pre-digested pablum prepared by the White House?


www.lasvegasmercury.com/2004/MERC-Jun-24-Thu-2004/24162082.html
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:44 PM
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8. Great Read: Laurer needs to be locked up in GITMO!
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Zen Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:47 PM
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10. It is pretty incredible how the media has been beaten into submission
by the right-wing "biased media" theorists. I believe that even the media will wake up one of these days. I actually believe that they are doing their "due diligence" and giving the wacko's the "benefit of the doubt" for now. BUT! I think they are saving up for the right time - closer to the election - to wake up and smell the coffee. They don't want to "peak" to early. Trust me on this I've got a really strong feeling on this.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:52 PM
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13. The excuse of the media for not showing casualties is that
The excuse of the media for not showing casualties is that people watching might be eating dinner.

Of course, that didn't stop them from broadcasting pictures of the corpses of Uday and Husay, Saddam's sons.

When there is a chance for the media to help Bush, the rules temporarily change.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 04:27 PM
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17. WHO OWNS THE NEWS
I will be ordering up some bumper stickers soon with:

"WHO OWNS THE NEWS"

Anybody have suggestions for where I can have it done?
Anybody want some?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:16 PM
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18. if you enter "custom bumper stickers" into a search-engine
If you enter "custom bumper stickers" into a search-engine, you'll get a list of possible places.

I can't vouch for any of them.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:38 PM
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7. I propose a two-for-one during
the Repub convention in NY. Protest the Bush Admin AND Mainstream media.

NYC is the Media Capital of the World...These criminals would not have been able to pull everything off without the complicity of the mainstream media - We can't hope to get the truth across until this changes.

It would be the perfect opportunity to get tens or even hundreds of thousands of people together to turn on the right wing whores.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:47 PM
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9. Indeed
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 04:07 PM
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15. I Shudder to Think How Bad Things Could Be Today
without alternative media, including truthout.org. In the dark days following 9/11, I saw that the corporate-owned media were complicit in disseminating the lies of the administration. I learned the value of internet-based news services in making information available that simply wasn't accessible through any mainstream source. During this time, I also came to appreciate international news sources - again made available via the internet.

The situation doesn't look good right now, but I venture that the fascist vision of the neoconservatives would be much further along if not for alternative media. Michael Moore owes a debt of gratitude to independent reporters and publishers, as do we all.
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LiberalTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 04:13 PM
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16. Will your piece was wonderful...........
My husband and I read it today.

Sidenote: I met Scott Ritter Thursday. He gave me some good insights into what my father may have been doing in Iraq during the past couple months. I thought about you.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:48 PM
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11. Yes it proved it...
That was the first thing that struck me when I was watching.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 03:49 PM
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12. Yes. It was an eye opener for me. I'll never look at the media ...
in the same way again. The TV media, that is.
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:20 PM
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19. 2000 Coup...
Was the watershed for me and the media bias....although my jaw was on the floor consistantly during the impeachment debacle...
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