damn, monica is slamming bill hard

[freedomonk]

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/206429p-178125c.html

Monica Lewinsky broke her silence and bared her claws yesterday, branding ex-lover Bill Clinton a creep who "destroyed" her and made her feel like "an insignificant piece of dirt."

"He says he was proud of the way that he defended the presidency - at my expense. In the process, he destroyed me," she said.

In her most candid remarks since the scandal that rocked the country, Lewinsky portrayed Clinton as a money-grubbing cad incapable of telling the truth.At various points in the two interviews she referred to him as "the creep," a "liar," a "revisionist of history" and "a wax figure - without humanity."

She seemed unable to reconcile the Bill Clinton of today with the "tender" man who called her "dear" and "baby" and gave her gifts like Walt Whitman's "Leaves of Grass."

"That's not how it was," she said. "This was a mutual relationship, mutual on all levels, right from the way it started and all the way through." What's more, she claims she can prove it with tapes of messages Clinton left on her telephone answering machine and gifts he gave her, all of which she kept. "If I was just something he used 'because he could,' why call me?" she said. "Why fake all the emotions and the looks and the tenderness?"

Clinton doesn't seem to appreciate the fact that she refused to wear a wire and get him on tape, even though she was threatened with prison, she said.



this is not good, not good at all... may be clinton should have talked to her first before writing his book. i hope media doesn't jump all over this.

[Caution]

1. yeh he really destroyed her

gimme an f'n break. she's now a multi-millionaire who clearly enjoys her fame and who refuses to simply fade into the background where she belongs. It's laughable.

[Cha]

Exactly...she might feel

she's destroyed mentally because of rejection...(I don't know what it says in the book) but there is wonderous therapy for that ...that all her handbag and faux money can buy..(doesn't she work for fauxsux?)

[Warpy]

46. yeah, destroyed because she couldn't destroy his marriage

and end up as his trophy wife. Destroyed because she failed to destroy Hillary and Chelsea Clinton.

I'll cry her a river and she can jump into it and drown.

[madaboutharry]

15. She is very immature for someone

almost 30 years old. In a way I do feel empathy for her, but she should have been able to move on from these kinds of emotions. I think it is more important that he show concern for the feelings of his wife and daughter. The fact that Monica Lewinsky doesn't get that says a lot about her. She needs to grow up.

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[GreenPartyVoter]

14. Look, call her a slut if she is one, but don't call her a fat pig please.

There are lots of great chubby chicks around, and I am one of them. Make Monica look a bit svelte, even. *g*

[mdmc]

33. the big dog got an ego

he can't ever back down

[Dookus]

3. Or maybe

she should learn how to be a real courtesan and keep her mouth shut (except when "on the job"). I miss the old days when we had classy whores like Pamela Harriman.

[belladonna]

4. As I said in another thread already

Monica's looking to milk this for all it's worth. Her agent probably isn't picking up the phone anymore after getting her that so called "reality show" and her prospects are drying up.

Go away, Monica.. and while you're at it, learn how to swallow. :eyes:

[thebigidea]

5. what the hell does she want? For Clinton to rhapsodize about her?

[freedomonk]

11. lol

[linazelle]

6. Who believes Monica is NOT a RW plant?

We know Linda Tripp taped her, but why does she have tapes and why did she keep the dress. I'm more convinced now than ever that Monica is part of the feminazi--what a despicable slut.

[Taverner]

28. I don't think she's a plant

But unstable, YES!!!!

[DenverDem]

29. Total wrong wing operative.

Planted by Tripp who was planted by old school dirty trickster Lucianne Goldberg who did in McGovern with the Eagleton smear.

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. Maybe that will teach her not to screw around

with married men.

Rule #1, if a man is willing to cheat on his wife, how the heck do you expect him to treat you?

[Catt03]

61. Right!

What is that little saying, "you play, you pay?"

Of course he paid with the Democratic party.

[TrueAmerican]

8. It takes two to tangle

I hope she learned her lesson. Don't sleep with married men or you might be branded a whore.

[Soopercali]

9. WTF?

Monica testified SHE gave HIM a copy of "Leaves of Grass"!!! (As I recall, a first edition.) So what's up with the current version?

[WilliamPitt]

10. Damn, WilliamPitt doesn't give a fuck

[spooked]

12. How dare she flash her thong at the President of the United States!

That is TREASON in my book.

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

13. "i hope media doesn't jump all over this."

Yeah, I'm sure you don't.

[Disturbed]

21. You are kiddin' right? The Media

They will lap this up like kittens with cream. This is what they love. Great for ratings. Americans eat up this crap like junk food. It is perfect distraction from real issues. As for Monica, she milkin' it and makin' more than most high class hookers.

[spaceman75]

59. You are Kidding

Monica's big mistake was she opened her mouth about it on a Friday. In the news Sat. and Sun., & then POOF, gone on Monday.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

66. It's already gone. The "news" is dominated by FratBoy taking his...

...blarney to Ireland, the chaos in Iraq, and the success of F911.

Monica? As you said..."poof".

[DrBB]

16. I already didn't care once, for months on end.

Do I have to not care all over again? And for how long?

[freedomonk]

17. in other news

"Monica Lewinsky was on Larry King Live tonight. Monica really liked Larry King. Actually, she likes any guy with a desk." —David Letterman

"Monica Lewinsky told this month's Cosmo magazine that if it weren't for Bill Clinton, she would be a mom now, with two kids. Really? Not the way she was doing it." —Jay Leno

"You know who was at the Vanity Fair (Academy Awards) party? Monica Lewinsky. She was sitting right next to me. I was at table 14; she was under table 12." —Jay Leno

"Celebrity birthdays, today Monica Lewinsky is 28. It seemed like just yesterday she was crawling around on the floor in the Oval Office." —David Letterman

"Monica Lewinsky has gained back all the weight she lost last year. I believe that's the cover story in Newsweek. In fact, she told reporters she was even considering having her jaw wired shut, but then, nah — she didn't want to give up her sex life." —Jay Leno

"It seems Monica Lewinsky is on the loose again, teaming up with HBO to do a documentary about her affair with Bill Clinton. It's not really a documentary. It will be more of an oral history." —Jay Leno

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. God, it goes on and on. Why don't they both just shut up.

Who, except the Oprah watchers, gives a rip about what either of them have to say about their antics.

Both of them are raking in the dough talking about a few blow jobs and entertaining the idiots.

We'll undoubtedly see more of this bickering on the media than anything about what's going on in the world and happening to real people than these to spotlight seekers.

And, to think I voted for the "Big Poodle" twice.

[lancdem]

35. He's promoting his autobiography

It has a hell of it lot more in it than Monica.

[Catt03]

62. LOL

[Media_Lies_Daily]

68. You don't like Clinton anymore? Wow...you must have REALLY hated...

...his roaring economy, the balanced budget, the budget surplus, the small number of global conflicts, the respect shown to us by the international community, and that very low 3.9% unemployment.

I voted for Clinton twice, and I'm damned proud of it. He was a FAR better president than unelected FratBoy could ever HOPE to be.

[movonne]

19. I really think this will hurt her more than him....if I were her I don't

think I would want to poke this hornets nest again. She may need the money. I don't blame her or him, the ones I blame are the repukes.

[rocktivity]

20. Did Clinton appreciate the fact that she kept the dress?

If the relationship was mutual and genuine, WHY DID SHE KEEP THE DRESS? Why did she brag to others about it? Why didn't she learn anything from her previous affairs with older married men?

Spare me the injured innocence routine. She's not only refusing to take her share of the blame, she's trying to elevate the affair to a level above "just sex." Invest some of the $100K you got from this interview in sex therapy and start growing up, you hypocrite!


:headbang:
rocknation

[benburch]

22. Monica didn't get what she wanted.

She wanted Bill to fall for her, Dump Hillary, and give her the White House.

She is still pissed off that her legendary fellatio skills didn't make her First Lady.

[Columbia]

23. Meh

[demgrrrll]

30. You know what I usually give people the benefit of the doubt but after

this run in I'm not sure what I think. I always thought that her memory was a little too good. Does anyone else remember their sex life in such vivid point by point detail? I don't and I still have one hell of a memory. Saving the dress was odd to say the least. I am aware that she had legal bills but she did make a good bit of money.
She had no qualms about writing her own book, nor has she had any qualms about speaking her mind about the events that transpired between them. She had decided to make a play for him prior to meeting him. Actions and consequences. A more highly evolved person might say I disagree with his assessment this is how I saw things end of story. You lose your point with name calling.

[freedomonk]

32. so

I don't and I still have one hell of a memory.

that means you have one hell of a sex life ?

[Bunny]

36. What's your point?

Seriously? What are you really getting at?

[demgrrrll]

50. I think my statement was very clear. What's your point back atcha?

I have always had unresolved questions about her. I think on some unconscious level she may have been or thought she was a woman scorned and was torn between cooperating and not cooperating with the Starr team.. Maybe a teensy weensy bit of her was not all that unhappy with seeing him twisting in the wind a bit. You will have to admit the deposition that she gave on their sex life included minute details that were probably not necessary to satisfy her obligations. Just my 2 cents.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

69. I think she was somehow part of the Arkansas Project, either as an...

...active participant or controlled by Linda Tripp who I REALLY suspect was an active participant.

[gulliver]

24. She should have kept her mouth shut.

:evilgrin:

Seriously, who has a consensual, secret affair and then blabs about it, and then thinks they are entitled to be loved for it?

[Mandate My Ass]

25. HERE'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS!!!!

:boring:

[ibegurpard]

26. this doesn't seem like the behavior of someone

who claims the scandal ruined her life. I would think, making that claim, that she would be avoiding the press and saying "no comment." She's been willing to trade on her notoriety (can't really fault her for that)...she can't have it both ways.

[scarletwoman]

27. What a dolt!

She sounds freakin' delusional, like she wanted to see their tawdry little sex romp as some sort of epic romantic tragedy. Did she really think that giving Bill a blowjob meant that she was his destined true love? Has she read too many romance novels or what?

I sympathize with her to some degree, her life DID get screwed up. Too bad she isn't doing something useful in her life like counselling young women on the dangers of extra-marital affairs and asymmetrical power relationships.

I guess she'd rather cling to victimhood and play "the woman scorned". How pathetic.

sw

[mountainvue]

31. She's just pissed off

because it's not all about her anymore. Clinton said some very nice things about her, wished her well in her life, even apologized to her.
Shut up Monica!

[lancdem]

34. All she's doing is making herself look bad

The more she says, the worse she sounds.

[Shopaholic]

44. I can't figure out if she thinks way too highly of herself or doesn't

think well enough of herself. On one hand she seems to have a pattern of (actively) pursuing affairs with married men, which isn't healthy mentally and indicates a certain lack of self-esteem. But then she demands (and gets the British media) to pay her $100K and gives this stupid interview and complains how Bill didn't "tell the truth" about what "really" happened. I got a news flash for you Monica-he did tell the truth when he said that he did it because he could.This is the part where I think she thinks way too highly of herself. And I think she's still disappointed that he didn't end up resigning or thrown out of office over this-over her. Just think how much more money and how many more minutes she could have gotten out of that claim to infamy! She needs to grow up, get a life, and stop whining to the media about how her life was ruined. Did she ever stop to think about how many lives she ruined with her actions? Of course not, a 'ho usually doesn't.

[K8-EEE]

37. She Is Really Saying "NOTICE ME NOTICE ME!!"

She's upset about what he DIDN'T say? Give me a break...

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[lancdem]

41. LOL

[anarchy1999]

39. Who cares, just do us all a favor, don't give her the grace of a thread.

Please stop this torture. If we have to beat ourselves then let us get out on the street and march to Washington. Let's do what GrannyD suggested, we can sweep them all out with mops and brooms. Clear out the corruption.

I'm tired of Monica, I'm tired of Bill, I'm really tired of Bush, Jr. and all his dad's associates running my country into the ground.

This is not the country I was taught about. This is not the way my government is supposed to work and I am almost 50. What about our kids? I keep asking everyone this single question and I get no answers. What's up America? What about our KIDS?

Do we have any responsibilities to them?

[lancdem]

42. Frankly, I don't think most people care what Monica says

The bigger issues are not being pushed out of the way. Monica's been relegated to gossip columns and shows like "Entertainment Tonight."

[brainshrub]

40. "Ex-lover" Bill Clinton?

A blow-job does not a lover make.

I think Yoda said that once.

[Nobody]

43. Two years without washing out a cum stain?

That just ain't right. It just ain't right. I may not be the most timely person when it comes to doing laundry, but it doesn't sit around for TWO YEARS waiting for me to get to it.

The only thing grosser would be if she wore it before cleaning it.

[fortyfeetunder]

45. Perfect distraction from * and company

For all we know, the WH may have put her up to this as distraction from the blow jobs and fuck-offs already going on in the White House.

[emulatorloo]

47. Kenneth Starr and Linda Tripp Destroyed Her - EOM

EOM

[Penndems]

48. Her 15 minutes were up eight years ago

Time to move on, Monica. Go get a life.

[TrueAmerican]

67. Bill lasted 15 minutes?

lol ;)

[AlFrankenFan]

49. Takes two to tango, hun n/t

[spanone]

51. Put a sock in it Monica....You did alright.

[UTUSN]

52. Huh? "this is not good, not good at all..."

****QUOTE*****this is not good, not good at all... may be clinton should have talked to her first before writing his book. i hope media doesn't jump all over this.******UNQUOTE*****

Regarding CLINTON and his bimbo problems, I continue to be the Hamstrung Democrat, assigning his own blame to him personally while defending him to the end. The ending of "Primary Colors" said it all for me regarding him: we got you through this, NOW DON'T BREAK OUR HEARTS. He did break our hearts because he couldn't deliver a large part of our agenda for us. Yes, I know about the danged dastardly wingnuts tying him up in knots.

As for her, she was a SELFISH LITTLE TWIT. I had no idea that she had thought her life was "destroyed" before this. She seemed to be having a blast at the Oscars and with her new Hollywood pals and whatever. For her to claim that somebody else, not HER AT ALL, had any role in "destroying" her life is just-----sputter, sputter-----REPUBLICAN!

So, for her to be claiming this just UNMASKS her petty selfishness. So, media, JUMP ALL OVER THIS AT WILL!

[vetwife]

53. She acts like she played no part in this at all.....She is a joke

[Media_Lies_Daily]

71. Let's see, Paula Jones noted in her sworn deposition that she met....

...Clinton one afternoon in a Little Rock hotel room while he was governor of Arkansas. According to Conason and Lyons in "The Hunting of a President", Clinton was completely booked up in the governor's mansion during the time in question and had witnesses to prove it.

Paula Jones was a bimbo, alright...just not Clinton's bimbo.

And what about Jennifer Flowers? She stated in sworn testimony that she had met Clinton several times in this one particular hotel in Little Rock. The problem with her story, according to authors of the above named book, is that the hotel had not yet been built during the period of time that Flowers stated she was meeting Clinton.

Doesn't look like Flowers was Clinton's bimbo either.

And then ther is Ms Wiley, a woman so deperate for cash that she would have done or said anything to get it. And she did.

Even Starr wouldn't pursue Wiley's story.

[Piperay]

54. SHUT UP Monica

you got your "Presidential kneepads" (your ultimate dream) and you got to host "Mr. Personality". :wow: Consider yourself lucky and crawl back under that rock that you crawled out from under in the first place. :mad:

[Seabiscuit]

55. No Pity

for Monica Schmonika and her big, big mouth.

When she wasn't opening wide for Bill, she was opening wide to blab to everyone she knew (and didn't know - Linda Tripp) about how she opened wide for Bill. And now her big ugly mouth is stuck in full yap mode.

Grow up, Lewinsky and take some responsibility for your stupid actions for a change.

[kiahzero]

56. Bad comment in 3... 2... 1...

No, that's what she was doing 6 years ago.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

57. Why call her? uh, try "he wanted a blow job"

:eyes:

[Deja Q]

58. She is mostly right, albeit on a superficial level... (this'll floor you)

Don't get me wrong, she is a skanky little trollop who knew full well what she was getting into (I'll explain).

And probably a big liar too, why didn't she mention the threat of prison AT THE TIME in 1998 when it all unraveled out? (but if she is telling the truth :eyes: then maybe she wouldn't have wanted to talk with Mr. Clinton? Did she even know the book had been written? I didn't know until I saw it on the bookshelves the other day.)

She is also stupid enough to have believed she could get somewhere (on a non-sexual level) by dealing with people in high authority by using (sexual) favors. She doesn't get it that the big-wigs don't care about the people they abuse. They care only for themselves and power. Hillary's someday going to be in for a rude awakening and I genuinely feel sorry for her. If Clinton wants to boink women, that's fine. Unless he's married, in which case he should keep the zipper up and keep his hormones in check, what the hell is wrong with that concept? (He's in power and suffers from the same conditions any celebrity would have: Excessive Ego Syndrome. And lore and stereotypes claim that women dig men with power and money. Again, Monica's a phony for saying she's all sweet and innocent. That's a load of steaming cattle cack.)

Clinton is not the problem. Human nature is. And as we're all human, we're all going to make a powerplay-related mistake at one time or another. It likely won't involve sex, but the pattern is the same: Favors or kissing-up for visibility and good marks and then getting betrayed in the end.

And if Monica has the proof, she'd better be prepared to use it. No card is worth the prize until it is played.

Had Clinton's book come out in September, I'd have been very worried for Kerry. It'd be October 2002 all over again, with the spoken words of a loser causing people to vote for the other party as a knee-jerk reaction.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

72. "Spoken words of a loser"??? WTF are you talking about?...

Clinton won the presidency against all odds, not once, but twice. He is the president that presided over the best economic period of time the world has ever known, unemployment was down to 3.9%, we weren't involved in very many conflicts, the budget was balanced, there was a huge budget surplus, and we were well-respected in the international community.

Compared to the unelected FratBoy, FratBoy's father, and Reagan, Clinton looks pretty damn good. Too bad some people are too short-sighted to see that.

Oh, and one more thing...the news that Clinton was writing a book was pretty well-known over the last year or so. His advance of $12 million was a record amount of money.

[keithyboy]

60. She should just take those knee pads somewhere else and grow up!!

She is the one who did the destroying. Men love tramps to fool around with. She is a tramp if I ever met one.

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

63. Unfortunately, Clinton can only blame himself for this one...

This is all on him. I really don't know how you can say " I slept with her because I could," and expect that to sound positive. He's got a lot of work ahead.

On Edit: You know, on second thought, she's hardly innocent. Adultery is a two-person sin, and Monica didn't seem to upset when she was geting paid off her SNL publicity. I feel for her, but she's hardly guiltless.

[Hammie]

64. Shocking!

Hell hath no fury...

[Media_Lies_Daily]

65. Oh, brother. You should do a little homework before you drop...

...crap like this on the DU boards.

First off, Lewinsky went after married men. That was her thing. Additionally, she was 24 years old when she was in the White House as an intern. She was old enough to vote, old enough to drink, and old enough to do whatever she wanted to do. And she did.

Second, I've always been VERY suspicious of the relationship between her and Linda Tripp. I've always suspected that Linda Tripp was tied in with the Arkansas Project in some way. The Arkansas Project was the organization funded by Richard Mellon Scaife that was out to get Clinton any way they could. I also suspect that Lewinsky was part of that overall plot. Why else would any rational person save that dress and all of the other things she kept?

And as far as Lewinsky being "destroyed", she seems to have done pretty well from a financial point of view.

Clinton doesn't owe Lewinsky anything, much less ANY discussion prior to Clinton writing his book. LOL!! That's a real knee-slapper.

[Kimber Scott]

70. Not good? What, do you think he might not get re-elected?

Fuck Lewinsky. When you mess with a married man, you get treated like dirt. Period.