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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 09:42 AM
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The real value of Michael Moore
Of course we are all celebrating the success of F9/11 right now, and it's hard not to. After all, many of us here on these boards knew about many of the things that Michael Moore talked about because we're hopeless political junkies. But Moore's film brings to the greater public consciousness many of the things we knew to be true, the things the media either ignored or didn't bother to find out during the Bush campaign in 2000 and the run-up to the Iraq war.

But Moore's value goes well beyond his film. In fact, F9/11 is really just a manifestation of his true value, and that value is his ability to prove to those Americans who hold moderate-to-liberal beliefs that they are not alone, that they are in fact the MAJORITY in this country, and that they should no longer allow themselves to be intimidated into believing that they are somehow treasonous or unpatriotic for holding the beliefs they do.

Each and every time Michael Moore goes on a "news" show, and faces off against an empty-headed pseudo-journalist like Matt Lauer, Hannah Storm or Katie Couric -- and rips their ass off and hands it to them in a paper bag on their own shows -- he scores a victory for all of us. He tears apart more and more of the curtain of fear and intimidation that the right wing and establishment media have lowered over the collective citizenry. He makes more and more people realize that it's not only OK, but it's patriotic to ask critical questions and demand honest answers. But most of all, he dispels the liberal=weak fallacy by showing that we all can stand up to the empty rhetoric of the followers of conventional wisdom, and we can collectively take our country back!
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Sweetpea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 09:44 AM
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1. Especially when the country is witnessing an handover from
a war so many had a vested interest in. Especially in convincing us it was necessary. A handover that the president could not step into the country. And no citizens were celebrating.It is time for Americans to fill in the gaps.
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 09:56 AM
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2. Americans are starting to fill in the gaps
And more importantly, they're starting to realize that it isn't somehow "treasonous" or "unpatriotic" to do so, and demand accountability from those peddling the lies.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 10:07 AM
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3. And isn't it Poetic Justice Bush gives him the material to work with?
I find that humorous and downright funny.

Asscroft singing ....."Eagles Soar". That was Special.... enough to make me think of :puke:

Moore does give us Americans Pause. I hope its enough to wake the rest of America up.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 10:13 AM
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4. That is exactly
what he did for me with Stupid White Men. Until I read that, it was pre DU for me, I really felt like I was alone.

I love what he does, handing them their asses without rancor. It is just perfect. He just lets them blow and then calmly puts the lie to rest.

Dissent is essential and patriotic, he is letting people know it is OK. We desperately need this right now. WTG Michael.
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 10:36 AM
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5. Not just that, MuseRider...
... but he's able to expose the hypocrisy of the Republicans in a way that speaks to "ordinary Americans" without necessarily alienating them with hateful vitriol.

Some people here think he's too loose with his facts, that he doesn't document enough things when making his case. To them, I say that if you want documentation, go read Chomsky. However, if you want someone who knows how to persuade people, look to Michael Moore.
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