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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-04 11:27 PM
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Will there be a place for Kucinich in a Kerry Admin?
So assuming Kerry wins, will there be a place for Dennis in his administration? I think he should offer Dennis a chance to finally establish the Dept. of Peace.

Thoughts?
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-04 11:29 PM
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1. I say keep him in the House
Edited on Tue Jul-06-04 11:29 PM by RatTerrier
He's doing a lot of good there.

Who knows? Someday, there could be more interest in his Department of Peace. It would be cool.
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Zen Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-04 11:32 PM
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2. I REALLY liked what he had to say. I also called him the "Romulan"
for obvious reasons. Can you imagine an administration with Frankenstein in charge and a Romulan first lieutenant. Sorry, I'm laughing my ass off right now - it's just a joke - don't attack me for it - lol!!
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-04 11:33 PM
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3. Dept. of Peace sounds good. Secretary of Peace.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 04:00 AM
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32. Yes, Secretary of Peace. But with a better "mission statement."
It's vague now.

And they should NEVER say "Never War."



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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-04 11:35 PM
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4. maybe in the mailroom
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-04 11:40 PM
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5. Kucinich would have a spot
in the Cobb white house.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-04 11:46 PM
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6. Ambassador to a small country
that is far away from Ohio.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-04 11:46 PM
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7. I'm from NE Ohio...
Edited on Tue Jul-06-04 11:47 PM by JohnnyRingo
We want to keep him for ourself.

Out with Gov Taft In with DK.
Sen Kucinich sounds good, too.

Sounds greedy when I read it, but I like DK.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-04 11:53 PM
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9. Not greedy. Everyone should have a congressman like him.
Edited on Tue Jul-06-04 11:53 PM by Zorra
Or Senator. Or governor.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:19 AM
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38. I'm not from Ohio, but I agree with you.
A governor would be great for Ohio. A senator would be better, because it would be good for all of us. How about speaker of the house?
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Egalitarian Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-04 11:47 PM
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8. I hope so
He needs a position where the American people can assimilate his ideas. Not sure if we're ready for a department of peace. Peace is as peace does. More of a policy thing IMO. But, give this man a larger audience please.
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Imperialism Inc. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:33 AM
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10. I doubt it.
It would be very odd for everyone who ran in the primaries to get a position. We might see Clark get something but that will be about it I think.

The Kucinich campaign will be presenting petitions to the party platform committee in Fla this Saturday. The Dept. of Peace is one of the more popular ones and is a plank in 4 State Democratic Party Platforms already. It will be up to the committee if they adopt it or not.

Here is a link to parts of his platform adopted as various state party planks.
Kucinich progressive values being widely embraced
http://www.kucinich.us/messages/061504-scott_hinchee.php

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:34 AM
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11. Nah. 'Governor Kucinich' has a nicer ring than Undersecretary of Whatever
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:38 AM
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12. I think he is needed much more in Congress
In the post-Wellstone era, we need all the progressives we can get in Congress, like him and McDermott. They agitate at the people's level, and provide the dissent needed for democracy's health to be restored.

It sounds nice contemplating him as the first Secretary of Peace, or perhaps with current posts the Labor position, or other high-ranking position, but Dennis is best working with the people.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:50 AM
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:59 AM
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17. You'll sound more educated if you read the bill
The Department of Peace also covers domestic peace. It's a very extensive bill.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 01:00 AM
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:52 AM
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14. Ambassador to Switzerland. Minister of Vegetables.
choices are endless.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:54 AM
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 01:00 AM
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19. how about a nice cup of....
oh never mind.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 01:12 AM
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21. Contempt for Democrats seem to drip from every word you type
Now why is that?
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 01:15 AM
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22. you noticed that too?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 01:18 AM
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 01:20 AM
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25. me? cry?
You are a newbie for certain. I don't cry, I just leave teeth marks in your ass.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 01:26 AM
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 01:33 AM
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27. I call you on your crap, Why would you support Kucinich for President
You mock and then when called on your mockery you say "oh I really am a Democrat, trust me!!!!" The same tricks your Halliburton Cheney uses.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:58 AM
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16. Secretary of State, Department of Peace, Secretary of Commerce, etc
There are a lot of good choices. But I'd rather see him as Speaker of the House.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 01:05 AM
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20. Speaker of the House would be great...... he's a great speaker,
and good at building coalitions.

Besides, it would be terrific to be able to see him on C-Span from time to time. :)

Kanary
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 01:49 AM
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28. I agree...the Dept of Peace is gaining support
in many states.
They- and we would be DAMN fortunate to have Dennis working for us...but then he already is in the House.

Dennis is the best...I sure would rather vote for him (again) than Kerry....

Peace
DR

:hi: Zombyson :loveya:
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 03:48 AM
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29. What is a "Department of Peace"???
Dennis mentioned this repeatedly during the debates yet never gave anyone a clue as to what he was fantasizing about. I don't visit his website (I like him in many ways, but I think half his brain occupies another galaxy), so does anyone have any idea why we need something called a "Peace Department"????
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 03:57 AM
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31. Why do we need a war room?
I would rather we work on world peace not on world wars.

His Peace Department would be along the lines of what the State Department is supposed to be. Basically a department which would work together with other nations to iron out differences and come together to help troubled countries.
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Imperialism Inc. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:08 AM
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34. Petition to the Democratic Party:
http://www.kucinich.us/petitions/petition_text_dop.php?s=p
We Want a Renewed Commitment to Peace and Nonviolence, and a Cabinet Level Department of Peace.

WHEREAS the United States has conducted a unilateral, preemptive war against Iraq without the approval of the U.N. and many of our allies; and

WHEREAS conflict occurs in relationships occasionally, between individuals, neighbors, and nations; and

WHEREAS military conflicts in the twentieth century alone have killed millions of people, most of them innocent civilian women and children; and

WHEREAS the United States spends more than the next twenty nations combined on military preparations; and

WHEREAS nonviolent methods of resistance have been successful in conflicts where violence did not succeed, ranging from India's struggle for independence, to breaking down the walls of the Cold War, to the great strides made towards integration in the United States; and

WHEREAS implementing nonviolent approaches for domestic programs and foreign mediation requires broad education, understanding, research, and a concerted effort; and

WHEREAS there is no single government entity assigned to deal with these various issues and report to the American people the status of our efforts to achieve these goals; and

WHEREAS H. R. 1673 has been introduced into the United States Congress, to establish a Department of Peace, a bill which has 49 cosponsors; and

WHEREAS even at the dawn of the 21st century, violence is an overarching theme in the world, encompassing personal, group, national, and international conflict, extending to the production of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons of mass destruction which have been developed for use on land, in the air, under the sea, and in outer space; and

WHEREAS such conflict is often taken as a reflection of an inevitable human condition, without questioning whether war is really inevitable, whether the structures of thought, word, and deed which we have inherited are any longer sufficient for the sustainability, growth, and survival of the United States and the world, and indeed, whether we can strive to make peace inevitable; and

WHEREAS promoting a culture of peace and nonviolence has been recognized by the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) through passage of a resolution declaring an International Decade for a Culture of Peace and Nonviolence for the Children 2001-2010; and

WHEREAS we are now in a new millennium, and the time has come to review age-old challenges, to search for new thinking, wherein we can conceive of peace as, in the words of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., "not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we arrive at that goal," where peace is not simply the absence of violence, but the presence of justice, where peace and nonviolence reflect the active presence of the capacity for a higher evolution of the human spirit, of trust, respect, and integrity;

NOW BE IT THEREFORE RESOLVED that we strengthen security in our country and the world community by:

* Rejecting a foreign policy of preemptive, unilateral war
* Working with the world community through the United Nations
* Supporting international agreements such as the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, the Biological and Chemical WeaponsConventions, the Small Arms Treaty, the International Criminal Court, the Land Mines Treaty, and the Kyoto Climate Treaty

AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that a Cabinet Level Department of Peace and Nonviolence be established to study and advance peace and nonviolence as the organizing principles in all human relations from families and neighborhoods, to courts and congresses, both nationwide and internationally.

http://www.kucinich.us/petitions/
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:30 AM
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39. Um...to spread peace instead of war?
If you like him, then visit his website. If you really want to know seems like you'd put some effort into it.
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Angelus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 03:52 AM
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30. Department of Peace sounds so...1984-ish.
I'd like for him to keep being a congressman. He's doing a great job there. :)
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 04:02 AM
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33. After the election, he will still be trying to get nominated
Edited on Wed Jul-07-04 04:03 AM by deacon
His decision not to drop out speaks for itself. He's a bozo.

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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:12 AM
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35. We need him in the House, preferably in a visible high rank.
If not Speaker, then the No. 2 or No. 3 spot in that hierarchy.

:kick:
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:16 AM
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37. He should remain in the House
as head of the Progressive Caucus.

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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:14 AM
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36. How about
as director of Trade policy, or something like that?
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