So WAS the blackout caused by terrorist or WASN'T it???????

[jus_the_facts]

....so does this seem relevant NOW??? Just wondered since they're now claiming responsiblity for it....who's FAULT is it?? :shrug:

Black Wind /Blackout? A Terrorist Threat or just more HOT AIR?

Edited on Fri Aug-15-03 03:25 PM by jus_the_facts
.....here's a snip from a post I read on another board the other day...the threats indicated a possible connection with the events that unfolded yesterday....is it a set up....or just Who really KNOWS???? For whatever it's worth here's a few dots to add to this fiasco

THERE HAS BEEN AN UPSWING IN CHATTER AMONG ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISTS WEBSITES REGARDING OF A COMING "BLACK WIND". WHAT IS DISTURBING ABOUT IS THIS IS RELATED BELOW.

these translated messages from known terrorism sites: "Sheik Osama bin Laden has now sent message from the island (?) and speaks of a matter that will happen, an odor of perfume to be cast among the infidels. He has directed his successor to carry the events long in the planning. The Sheik spoke of his plans to carry out against the aggressor unjust country himself a strong blow that aims at the very top of America. The Sheik spoke of a blow to the joints of the American economy that we together listened. It was following that message he spoke Allah willing of the death blow he will decide when to carry through. I cannot deduce the timing, only know and pray to it be soon."

A second message read: "To you, the lovers of Allah, I say this: America will witness great events so great that they will be beyond the believable. They will exceed those ever imagined, and those of 11 September. We are ready to execute the events on orders. They will devastate the region, and I do not know if this Iraqi- American war will lead to this event, it is not for me to decide. A great Black Wind will affect the infidels, the people of the book are awaiting this battle, a Armageddon, engaging the House of Saud, Palestinians and Israel. It will not be us, but America who will be effected. A Black Wind will blow across the land."

And a third: "To the Muslims lodging in America, I say for them to take caution and stay alert. Do not cause alarm by leaving en masse. Take arms as the deathblow at the hand of Sheik Osama from the back, where least expected, is at hand. Some members (al Qaeda) have received orders to leave the United States for their positions in the United Kingdom and Europe, as they have special knowledge in these workings as a science."

Additional Data Found on Muslim cleric Abu Bakar Sheik BASHIR in CURRENT & PLANNED EVENTS:

"Regarding the words of Muslim cleric Abu Bakar Sheik BASHIR, there are many current references to him in the Islamic jihad forums. In these same forums, there appears to be the reoccurring reference to the number four-(4) and the number two-(2), Note these dates of recent terrorist events:

"1. Russia bombing occurred on 8-01-03
"2. Pakistan bombing occurred on 8-03-03
"3. Indonesia bombing occurred on 8-05-03

"Based on the numerical references to the number four (and the multiples of "2" spoken of in chat and forums), one might extrapolate that the next planned bombing in that area will fall somewhere between 8-07-03 and 8-09-03. This is expected to be a "traditional blast" and not the Black Wind event referenced above." Interesting timing for government scientists to announce they´re close to an ebola vaccine. Hmmmmm......

What could be worse than black wind? This is smallpox that has been genetically altered to an even deadlier form. On Sept. 13, 1975, a prophetic message was given by ´Our Lady of the Roses´: “Your city and many cities throughout your country shall feel the plague. It is for the murders of the unborn that your city receives the plague. There will be sent upon your country a plague. Many shall die. When the great rains start, know that many shall die." More info was given July 1, 1985: “The world may call it the onslaught of holocaust, but not many will have the opportunity to try to figure what has happened about them, as they run back and forth and try to flee before the Chastisement. Don´t look back, My children, as you find the bodies, black--dead bodies--lying among your roads. Do not touch them or you will die, also.”





.....this was posted on 8/8/03 and was posted in regards to an attack on Chicago.....but this nagged me to NO end last night because I couldn't remember it exactly and couldn't access the site I read it on untill this afternoon...hell they are making it a conspiracy themselves by all their assumptions of why this happened.

T



QuietStorm (300 posts) Fri Aug-15-03 02:44 PM
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1. a blow to electric certainly qualifies as a blow to one of the joints



as for the source of this and your post. I can not say. It seems to me this outage had to have been caused by people on the inside of the electric power company itself. With the pentagon begging off on it being terror related much is left to speculation. I have my own speculations but what would be the reasons that the Pentagon or homeland security would hold back information on terrorism?

could it be homegrown?
patriot group related?
Or have they failed to sweep those Al Qaeda memembers that took up residency here dating back two decades ago?






jus_the_facts

I don't know either but thought this was worthy of attention.......


....because the terminology was just so similar and because of their immediately denying it was terrorism This was an annonymous post from a conspiracy board...just thought I'd throw it in the mix to see what ya'lls thoughts would be regarding it.....




QuietStorm (300 posts) Fri Aug-15-03 03:02 PM
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3. I agree



I did not mean to discourage your post. I just added my own feelings on it the most suspicious thing so far to me is that terrorism as cause was immediately discounted. I tend to feel something is amok with that.




jus_the_facts (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-15-03 03:11 PM
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4. I agree with you as well....


....it's extremely odd for them to deny their hardline *fear factor* reasoning for everything else so quickly with this situation...and reading this the other day just kept nagging at me all night last night because I couldn't recall it all exactly and couldn't access the site I read it on either untill this afternoon...but it seems relevent to me still...I gotta wear it nothing is beyond suspect these days.

I didn't take your comment as discouraging at all... I appreciate your response very much.



jus_the_facts (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-15-03 03:41 PM
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5. shameless ::tinfoilhat:: kick.....




Why isn't the BFEE using this as a *terror threat* seems they'd have more of a platform for their privatization of the 'grid' with this being an Osama event

[Devlzown]

1. Dubya probably thinks it's

an old Indian curse. And I'm sure Ashcroft thinks God is punishing the liberals.

[jus_the_facts]

2. illusion is reality......reality is illusion.....and a pathetic kick.....

:nuke:

:kick:

:nopity:

[GainesT1958]

3. I think that Osama & Co. are taking credit...

For something that's NOT due them--at least the North American blackout isn't! Now, the Georgian (ex-Soviet Republic) blackout...that may be a different story, especially from the reports of who, and what, started it. Here, though? I'd be more concerned about the effects of another "terrorist' organization, one very much home-grown. It's known as ENRON! x(

As far as Smallpox, or even Plague, I don't think they've got access to enough of either to do that kind of damage. In any case, we have more vaccine than they have germ stock. After the Anthrax mailings, I will say that I feel better having that little scar on my arm from being vaccinated as a four-year-old back in 1962. In my view we never should have stopped vaccinating children for Smallpox, no matter how certain we felt that it had been eradicated. And this is the perfect opportunity to start including it with other childhood immunizations again. That would go a long way toward allaying at least SOME of our fears of any "black wind" being more than a blackout.

B-)

[jus_the_facts]

4. but this threat was a mutated 'hybrid' combination of small pox and ebola

.......or so they'd have you believe. :scared:

....and I wasn't vaccinated against small pox as a child...was supposed to be but said I could get it because of 'health reasons' so guess I'll be one of the un~vaccinated regardless x(

....and I refuse to allow myself to be deluded into thinking these mofo's aren't extremely dangerous foes....still :evilfrown:

[PATRICK]

5. It's a good thing

They do so much florid talking instead of doing simple things. Would be astrologers scared to commit it sounds tome.

it has to be despairing to try to raise an act of violence to the level of dialy Amemrican greed and incompetence. Traffic fattalities, industrial accidents, pollution, food poisoning. They can't even match the normal effect of the common cold. Why sacrifice your life and limited grey matter trying to compete with natural death and human stupidity? There are ways to make things change for the better. Being spiteful little kids is not it.

I think they are daydreaming in the wrong business.

[kentuck]

6. We don't know what caused it but...

Dubya said that it was not caused by "terrorists"?? If we don't know what caused it, I have no idea how he knew it wasn't caused by "terrorists"???? Just more BS from the Chimp in Chief.

[jus_the_facts]

8. exactly....his denial of it being a terrorist event.......

.....makes me wonder about it all the more....the illusion continues :eyes:

[samsingh]

7. either Terrorist or shrub incompetance

take your pick. it was one of these reasons.