Is the US Torturing CHILDREN Now?!?

[DoveTurnedHawk]

This is Norway's most reputable paper:

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article823183.ece

Norwegian authorities reacted with shock and disgust Tuesday to a documentary on German TV that American soldiers allegedly have been holding children in prisons in Iraq, and abusing them as well. The Norwegians joined the Red Cross and Amnesty International in calling for an immediate end to the abuse, and release of the underage prisoners, some of whom are as young as 12 years.

In one case, a girl around age 15 was said to have been shoved up against a wall by a group of male soldiers who proceeded to manhandle her. They then started ripping off her clothes, and she was half-naked before military police broke in.

In another case, a boy aged 15 or 16 was stripped naked and sprayed with water before being placed in an open truck and driven around in the cold night air last winter. He then was covered with mud.

"These types of attacks are absolutely unacceptable," said a spokesman for Norwegian Prime Minister Kjell Magne Bondevik. "They violate international law and are morally indefensible."

Odd Jostein Sæter of the prime minister's office told Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) Tuesday that Norwegian officials will react "both politically and diplomatically" to their US counterparts.

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:wtf:

Have I been asleep? Has this come out here at DU? Has NO media organ here in the US reported a goddamn THING about this?

:grr:

DTH

[cheezus]

1. saw some murmerings a while ago, this is the first source tho

:kick:

[Walt Starr]

2. It's been on DU a few times

German media picked it up.

Not a single media outlet in the states has run a word of it, though. Wouldn't look good for the corporate whores if they let on that Dumbass* reopened Saddam's rape roioms under new management, and lowered the age to get in...

[Poiuyt]

4. Supposedly, Sen. John Warner is going to be

cranking up the prison abuse scandel again soon.

[tom_paine]

13. I'll believe it when I see it

[Sliverofhope]

20. He'd better

I'll add him to my list of people to call. What state is he in?

[Randers]

3. There have been a few threads about it...

over the last few weeks.

[MountainLaurel]

7. Here's one

If you want to follow along . . .

Chat about news from Norway

[DoveTurnedHawk]

12. Thanks

Don't know how I missed that one, I kicked it back to page one.

:grr:

DTH

[Jacobin]

5. Shhhhhhhhhh. The U.S. media doesn't want you to know about it

Ya know, family values and all?

Wouldn't be good for Smirky's poll numbers, so we just don't mention that in the good ole U.S. of A.

[cthrumatrix]

6. ain't that the truth..... no word is "silence" thru election

[pnorman]

8. There was a german video clip cited on DU

yesterday, with an appeal for translation. I watched it, but without being able to follow the dialog, was unable to get much out of it. I saw no incriminating photos, but there were several blank screens where the text "might" have indicated that the photos weren't available for airing. (Perhaps permission was needed?). I'm glad to see further details on this, and I now have enough details to make some Google-searches. Keep digging at this!

pnorman

[allemand]

16. no photos, only illustrations of torture by British ITN channel

a translation of the video you can find here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1938443#1938636

This is what you did not see because of the blank screens:











The video does not make clear, though, on which information/testimony these illustrations are based.

[DrWeird]

9. Have I been asleep?

At least for a couple of months now.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

14. What's With the Snide Comment?

Shouldn't we all be outraged about this? Shouldn't we all be screaming about this to everyone who can hear?

:grr:

DTH

[Tsiyu]

10. My signature says it all

Even though sigs aren't currently working, I chose it because the Bible Bangers believe every word is true. And the bible they read sez that "There is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. What you whisper in the closet will be shouted from the rooftops (satellites?" Perhaps that line is coming true. i hope so. tell everyone you know, and e-mail the stations you watch to tell them you want coverage of this.....

[redqueen]

11. Yes

:cry:

Call your Senators & Reps

Demand Justice for these children

877-762-8762

[Randers]

15. IF there aren't photos ( which I really don't want to see anyway)

the media ignores the story. Just like with the other torture incidents. There were all kinds of artlicles and information - but it took the photos to make it a story.

[Sliverofhope]

21. I'm sick of waiting on the next Daniel Ellsberg

who never comes.

[Jankyn]

17. Der Spiegel

...a reputable German paper, had a report on it today. Unfortunately, all in German, but I stumbled through it.

I expect that, since the International Red Cross, Unicef, and Amnesty International are all involved, it will make the English-language papers in the next few days. Watch the Guardian and the BBC.

Of course, who knows when it will break in the U.S. And, from the story, it appears that the children are 15-16 years old. Heck, here in the good ol' USA, we execute teenagers, and try 12-year-olds as adults. At least, I expect that's going to be the spin.

Jankyn, lover of the international press

[newyawker99]

23. Hi Jankyn!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Sliverofhope]

18. kick n/t

[Sliverofhope]

19. kick n/t

[David Zephyr]

22. Another Kick.

:kick: