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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 04:49 PM
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What do rethugs have against rich Dems?
I don't get it. One of the criticisms that repeatedly have come up about Moore, Kerry and Edwards is that they are rich. Why?

I thought that being rich was the American Dream? I especially don't get it in the case of people like Moore and Edwards, who came from humble beginnings. Don't they epitomize the pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps myth they always are parading?

Does this criticism resonate with anyone?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 04:50 PM
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1. "What do rethugs have against rich Dems?"
Competition

They hate competition
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 04:53 PM
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2. You aren't supposed to MAKE money, you are supposed to inherit it
from your rich daddy.

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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 04:56 PM
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5. Yep
Geez, imagine what would happen if EVERYONE had the opportunity to be rich! (Instead of the "priviledged few") Disaster!
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 04:59 PM
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10. i'm your joe average
Edited on Wed Jul-07-04 05:01 PM by 7th_Sephiroth
and i know that the only way to get rich is to get your hands dirty, and i know this because i have the oppertunity to become rich, but it means doing some scummy jobs
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 04:54 PM
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3. i think it is the same attitude that...
white southern slave owners had toward white abolitionists...

"YOU'RE ON THE WRONG TEAM, DAMMIT!!! GET OVER HERE!!!"
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 04:56 PM
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6. Exactly
They consider them class-traitors.

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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 04:55 PM
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4. Defuse This Argument By Saying, Politics Is A Rich Man's Game Because
the republicans are have rigged the system that way.

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 04:56 PM
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7. They're trying to make the unrich voters hate them for their wealth..
... while trying to pretend they, themselves are not richer. Sometimes, indidious shit like that works. Voters have a total disconnect on the level of wealth and privelege that Bush has. They DO believe he's just a good ol'boy on a ranch in Texas.. not the green plaid golf pants wearin' elitist blue blood he is.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 04:57 PM
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8. Fear and guilt.
If we can make money and still care for and help others, what's THEIR excuse?

It makes the poor bone-selfish dears profoundly uneasy.

They've been taught that sharing means you end up with nothing. That being a do-gooder means being a poor loser.

After all, Jesus was a do-gooder and look what happened to HIM.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 04:58 PM
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9. They like to think it is hypocrisy... socialists can't be rich.
They are black and white thinkers, so as far as they are concerned you can be either a marxist or a capitalist, but there's nothing in between. :eyes:

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An open letter to John Kerry, John Edwards, and the DNC:
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/OpenLetter.htm
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:01 PM
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14. Slow day at Free Republic?
n/t
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:07 PM
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20. Hmm...
Maybe I'm mistaken. Would you care to elaborate on his wealthy start in life? How does it stack up against Bush's "humble" beginnnings?

What about Edwards? Would you consider his rise as living the American dream?
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:07 PM
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21. Moore did come from humble beginnings.
Didnt he grow up lower middle class in Flint MI?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:00 PM
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12. Even Clinton


One of my friends,trying to hide her Republican Ideals,told me that she was not interested in reading Clinton's book. She asked me if people are reading it.

I told her it is a major Best Seller.

Her response was, "that's what I don't like. Clinton was so rich before and now he is going to make even more money on that book."

Republicans have so many disconnects. Are they all brain dead?

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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:00 PM
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13. Trying to play the "class" card....
...'cept its kinda hypocritical...pot calling the kettle black...
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:01 PM
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15. Hadn't thought about it before, but I guess they want to be the ONLY party
in which you can accumulate wealth, 'cause that's a reason to vote for THEM. Exclusively. Take that away, and all you've got is a lot of moralistic stuff.

Not only that, wealth is sooo important to them that they just don't want others to have what they have (or in some cases, wish they had), so I guess it's also a jealousy thing.

It must be disconcerting to find out that other people who don't think like them can still be successful. Remember how successful Clinton is, and they HATE him.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:03 PM
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16. traitors to their kind
I am more frustrated by women who vote republican than men who vote republican because they OUGHT to know better. Not only are they voting in a way that I think is reprehensible, but they are stupid enough to do so against their own best interests!

Maybe rich repubs feel the same way about rich Democrats.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:06 PM
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18. They hated FDR for the same reason
He was a rich patrician who cared more about the common good than making himself and those like him richer.

They've never forgiven him for the New Deal.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:04 PM
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17. sure it resonates
class resentment is a powerful force. But coming from the republicans, especially Bush and Cheney, most people will see through the cynical ploy.

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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:06 PM
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19. Dude, they're not interested in consistency, they're in it for the effect.
They're Democrats (or at least not Republicans) and they must be smeared in any plausible way. If they're rich, they got their by lying and cheating. If they're poor, they've never accomplished anything on their own. The GOP doesn't give breaks.
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skippysmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:09 PM
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22. that they are Dems
They can't understand why a person who has so much would want to help others. They never heard the quote about how to whom much is given, much is expected.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:09 PM
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23. The same thing we have against Republicans who cheat on their wives.
I think they see it as hypocritical. Since the Republicans are openly pro-corporate and against the little guy, they're immune from the attack. But somehow they feel that a rich Democratic should give away all their money.

It's a very strained example of hypocrisy, but there it is.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:10 PM
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24. Maybe it's because they actually have enough money to be able to
afford to run for office.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:19 PM
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25. Grrrr...
On Crossfire today, some Bush apologist kept asking Begala why Edwards didn't give the millions of dollars he made in settlements back to his clients because after all, Edwards says he's for the little guy so it was hypocritical for him to keep the money.

Well, duh. He worked for it, which is more than Bush can say. So I guess if you are a Democrat it's ok to be a capitalist as long as you don't make a lot of money.

:grr:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:26 PM
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26. They Think Everyone Turns into a Repub When They Get A Little Money
The very existance of wealthy democrats like Saros proves them wrong.

They don't like that.

That's one of the reasons they have done everything they can to trash the California
economy. Too many Democrats making too much money. Not allowed.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:27 PM
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27. it isn't just dems, it's any "enemy"
Richard Clarke is a repug and their attack on him? He has a book to sell and will make money.

Joseph Wilson is a Repuke and their attack on him? He's doing a book deal and will make money.

Paul O'Neill is as repuke as they get and their attack on him? He was selling a book and just interested in making money.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:30 PM
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28. Nothing, it's just a convenient Propaganda Tool
Democrats aren't supposed to be rich. Because they stick up for the little guy (sometimes), I guess they have to take vows of poverty.

Actually, asking what sense Bushevik Propaganda makes is like asking what sense Nazi Propaganda made in 1933.

It doesn't have to make sense. Appeals to the Mob and Propaganda rarely do even require it making sense.

People from Hitler's Rove to Bushevik Goebbels have always known this.

It makes their jobs so much easier.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:50 PM
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29. Pugs think that if you're rich, you should be a pug since
all pugs do is look out after the rich. They hate dems having any money, it all belongs to them.
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Ivan Zero Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 06:14 PM
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30. It's the hypocrisy card
One of the most commonly used left-directed insults in Freeperdom is "hypocrite". Some of these guys live for the stray example of a Democrat (or leftist or liberal or Progressive, it doesn't matter, we're all the same to them) seemingly violating the "Liberal Agenda".

Since the demagogues of the Right have so thoroughly stereotyped anyone to the left of Colin Powell as raving socialists who want to destroy capitalism, any one of us who makes a tidy profit is a hypocrite in their eyes.

After all, the one thing that pisses a Freeper off more than anything in the world is when you refuse to live up to their stereotypes.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 06:30 PM
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31. Part of the old two-party canard?
Repubs want you, the voter, to forget you're not rich.

Dems want you, the voter, to forget they are rich.
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