CNN Aaron Brown BLOWING THE LID OFF OF OBL SURPRISE!!!

[Beetwasher]

Covering the NR piece that sources 4 Pak intel people who said they're being pressured to produce someone during the Dem convention. Amazing...

[derrald]

1. i

I didnt get to see it, what happened?

[Beetwasher]

Had A Guy On From New Republic

Went over the story...It's out there. If they pull out OBL now, it could blow up in their faces...

[Redleg]

39. Fucking scumbag. This war is all about politics for Bush.

I am almost speechless. Kudos to Aaron Brown for having the gumption to report this.

[Dangerman]

77. Amen to that, brother...

Amen.

[wyethwire]

50. TNR made it plausible

if it had come from anyone else, it could have been dismissed.

[cthrumatrix]

66. he uses war, people whatever he can to maintain power ..... plan on it

I would love to have more of the media run with this

[Bluebear]

3. Bush wants some "big capture" during Democrat convention

In cahoots with Pakistanis to make some big splash capture during Boston convention.

[SW FL Dem]

2. Saw that too

Wonderful!!

[mmonk]

4. Yes

the July surprise.

[Sliverofhope]

8. Excellent news

And an excellent avatar. Glad you're paying attention.

[mmonk]

10. Thanks

I plan to keep it until the average person on the street knows her. These people have no shame. It's just amazing.

[Kholst]

38. ok..

small picture, small monitor, bad eyes, bad facial recognitions skills... who is she?

[davekriss]

51. Sibel Edmonds

Go here for latest: Judge Tosses Suit by Fired FBI Translator

[porkrind]

52. Anyone else think she's sexy?

or is it just Me?

Sorry to lower the level of discussion on this thread. :)

[oustemnow]

60. no, I think so too

I was going to ask who that was, before someone beat me to it.

Thanks for lowering the discourse in advance and relieving me of that burden.

[Quahog]

69. I'm not too proud to descend to that level of discourse

Sibel is a babe. I think she's totally hot.

[Beetwasher]

72. Oh Hell Yeah! She's a Hottie!

And it's not just her physical attributes! On a scale of 1-10 she's a 20...

[Zen]

53. I remember her now - wow, incredible how much terrible government

can be suppressed. Bushco's luck has to run out at some point though.

[Kholst]

71. Thanks

I recognize her now.

[slinkerwink]

5. I hope that CBS 60 Minutes II will follow this up!

[curse10]

6. LMAO

Let them bring him out and parade him around now! Fucking idiots.

And if they are planning on bringing someone of less importance out during the convention no one will give a rats ass. If his name isn't Osama or Saddam the average American won't know and won't care.

[bacchant]

17. You know how they try to play it

It'll be some minor figure with a long Muslim name that they will claim is "Osama's right hand man, one of the true masterminds of the 911 attacks..." You know the drill.

[notadmblnd]

25. of course

One of his top lutenients. It'l be the left hand man of the left hand man of the left hand man.

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

64. Considering we don't even know where OBL is hiding...

...how is it that BushCo can claim that some captured individual is something like"the third-highest ranking member" of Al-Queda? I mean, do we have access to the Al-Queda organizational chart? Have we already captured the Al-Queda Human Resources Director (torture is acceptable in that case).

Does this administration ever do anything but blow smoke?

[11 Bravo]

70. Osama apparently has more "lieutenants" than

the US Army, Navy, and Marine Corps combined.

[Bluebear]

7. Spread this far and wide. When W comes up with his big "bounty"...

...the electorate will ask why he said bin Laden is "not a danger to us anymore, I don't care where he is. He doesn't concern me."

[Shopaholic]

9. Damn--now I've got to e-mail them and thank them for running this story

on the same day I bitched to them about the story they ran claiming Edwards was using his kids as a political photo-op tool! But thank God they are reporting this! Let's hope everyone else in the media jumps on the bandwagon!

[Cha]

13. The nerve ..calling Edwards on using his

kids in a political photo op when bush sat down with "The Pet Goat" while lower New York City was burning because he couldn't leave his "photo op".

[ngGale]

62. "The nerve is right...if they knew anything at all...

they would have known the children go with Edwards whenever possible. It's not a new thing, but being chosen for Vice and taking your family to meet Kerry and his family. It's was a family thing.

OBL--Glad Brown had the nerve to bring that to light. That story has been going around for a long time. Then a Congressman out of the country told a newspaper. I read it myself because it gave the article creditability.

[swag]

46. I forwarded it to a columnist and a reporter at my awful local paper

(the Oregonian). Can't wait to read about it next March.

[Cha]

11. Could these Crooks be anymore

OBVIOUS?

[tinrobot]

12. Link?

Is there a link?

[varun]

16. Link to TNR story

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040719&s=aaj071904

PAKISTAN FOR BUSH.
July Surprise?
by John B. Judis, Spencer Ackerman & Massoud Ansari

Post date 07.07.04 | Issue date 07.19.04

...This spring, the administration significantly increased its pressure on Pakistan to kill or capture Osama bin Laden, his deputy, Ayman Al Zawahiri, or the Taliban's Mullah Mohammed Omar, all of whom are believed to be hiding in the lawless tribal areas of Pakistan. A succession of high-level American officials--from outgoing CIA Director George Tenet to Secretary of State Colin Powell to Assistant Secretary of State Christina Rocca to State Department counterterrorism chief Cofer Black to a top CIA South Asia official--have visited Pakistan in recent months to urge General Pervez Musharraf's government to do more in the war on terrorism. In April, Zalmay Khalilzad, the American ambassador to Afghanistan, publicly chided the Pakistanis for providing a "sanctuary" for Al Qaeda and Taliban forces crossing the Afghan border. "The problem has not been solved and needs to be solved, the sooner the better," he said.

This public pressure would be appropriate, even laudable, had it not been accompanied by an unseemly private insistence that the Pakistanis deliver these high-value targets (HVTs) before Americans go to the polls in November. The Bush administration denies it has geared the war on terrorism to the electoral calendar...

[Rose Siding]

22. They must be overloaded with hits

Can you still click through?

[varun]

27. The TNR site is being bombarded...

...this is going to be a BIG story. Hope other outlets catch onto this!

[Wind Dancer]

14. Powerful interview!

Aaron Brown made it quite clear how serious this was. Great news day, (if possible in our corp. owned media) with Keith slamming the *'s and military for psy-op tumbling of statue, no free press & mentioning the Control Room plus revealing the desperation of our troops.

[Shopaholic]

15. God I hope some of these guys are finally waking up. . .

and remembering what their jobs are really supposed to be instead of being cheerleaders for BushCo!

[varun]

18. Why did Bush not pressure Pakistan in 2001

after 911 if he knew that Pakistan could produce OBL?

Why has Pakistan been declared a MNNA (major non-NATO ally) if they are harboring all these HVTs (High Value Targets)?

[mmonk]

19. That's easy

If they got OBL shortly after, the Iraq war and the neocon plan may have been derailed.

[Aidoneus]

30. it's not exactly within their control..

witness their impotence in Waziristan for a microcosm of what Busharraf would have to deal with..

[Canuckistanian]

33. Busharraf! I like it!

Sorta like Blush....

[Ani Yun Wiya]

59. We could also add..

Busharon for another part of what's in play.

[varun]

34. OBL is not in NWFP..

...or the tribal areas. He is in the comfortable environs of Karachi or Rawalpindi (Pakistan army HQ)...

Remember, KSM (Al Qaeda #3) was caught in a posh bungalow near Islamabad?

[Aidoneus]

44. I doubt that

Kunar seems a more likely place to me--sitting at the top of the world, watching everything go right.. :shrug:

Too many people would see his very recognizable and remarkable face in one of the big cities.

[Guaranteed]

31. And selling nuclear secrets to Libya and NK.

http://www.bushflash.com/lotto.html

[kentuck]

20. Bush likes surprises, don't he?

maybe the voters will give him the surprise of a lifetime about Nov 2nd?

[Wind Dancer]

23. HeeHee!

We will, just have to be prepared for the fight of our lifetime.

[Rose Siding]

21. Yaaaaayyyyy!!!!

:party: :party: :party:

Watching this break is the most fun!!!! I'm sitting here in stitches. I Want A Parade. No one got hurt (in a war or a bad economy) and Bush STILL is shown for the creep that he is. SOME FUN!

[farmbo]

24. So the US Military is now the public relations arm of the GOP?!?

And just how many casualties will be "acceptable" during this publicity stunt?

[Ilsa]

26. That;s the real story that needs to be examined. Thanks. eom

[Wind Dancer]

28. Yes, amazing how that never gets reported.

We can't even get them to air the actual number of causalities. Of course, neither VP nor * have attended one funeral as of yet.

[Bluebear]

75. stunt it is.

[BeachBuckeye]

29. So now they've exposed themselves. Just how low will they go?

What if they fail to find one of those nasty fella's? What then? How far will they go to upstage the Convention? How low will they stoop to keep their power? Be sure and listen to my opening comments on Saturday. www.theguyjamesshow.com

[Renew Deal]

36. One website thinks that they will nuke Iran or NK.

http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/july2004/070704nukeattack.htm

[Strelnikov_]

41. Not Sure About The Nuke Thing, but . .

. . . I think there is a good chance that "Operation Summer Pulse" is going to become "Operation Persian Carpet Bomb" about late September.

[grasswire]

32. I wish we could go back a few months....

...and find the DU thread where several of us agreed that the way to keep the Bushies from producing OBL as an election surprise was to talk about the probability in the press.

That's how you stop Rove. You talk about the lowest things you can imagine Bush doing.

[Bluebear]

35. You're absolutely right.

You think as low as the mind allows. People will say "that's off limits, that's unthinkable"...yet that is exactly how you decipher Karl's beautiful mind.

[Old and In the Way]

42. Make book on the date......

I'm sure someone would take that action in Las Vegas.

[varun]

37. Two dictators propping each other up...

Bush + Musharraf = Busharraf

[faithnotgreed]

40. note to self: email thanks to cnn, msnbc, tnr, michael moore,

[Cush]

43. show repeats at 1 am (East Coast)

[alarcojon]

84. Thanks, I'll be watching

B-)

[Zen]

45. Busted, thanks Aaaaaaaron. It is absolutely STUNNING how much

more REALLY crooked these GOD DAMN republicans are (compared to Clinton), and yet they just do this stuff with impunity. What is going on in this country? These folks are criminals my friends - they need to go NOW! We can't wait for an election.

[My Pet Goat]

47. Bush thinks his re-election is more important than...

capturing the perpetrators of 9/11 ASAP?? :wtf:

[Poiuyt]

55. That's the way this story should be played

I hope this story gets picked up by everyone else.

[NewJeffCT]

73. Is the New Republic a liberal magazine?

I don't want this to be written off as radical leftists with an agenda... I thought it was a Republican mag, but I have no clue on these things.

[Still_Loves_John]

79. Not at all

Ever watch Capital Gang? Kate O'Beirne is the editor.

[Hailtothechimp]

48. WMD=not important. HVT=absolutely critical

May they all rot in Guantanamo for this.

[Sugarbleus]

49. If ONLY we COULD make that happen, Hail...

These maggots don't deserve to just be let off the hook for all their criminal deeds. They need a taste of their own "medicine". If only, if only......

[donhakman]

54. The best vaccine against an OBL Oct surprise

is to uncover it now, defuse it and ridicule the Republican ruse.

[Sugarbleus]

57. I'm in....'Let the games begin......' eom..

[Cush]

56. kick for the repeat

on now

[TacticalPeek]

58. More pressure, possibly. On DEA, for terradrug financing leads.

daria_g posted this near the end of that monster Plame thread.
--------------------------------------------------------------

(Been reading all these threads - amazing stuff, all..)

Some pertinent info over at DEA Watch, scroll down to find the stuff I'm quoting here..

http://members.aol.com/deawatch/daily.htm

July 7:
Results of yesterday's 24 hour Survey, con't:

(QUESTION 1/3: Active Employees: Have you been privately contacted by an FBI or CIA agent about a past or current case or suspect that might involve drugs and terrorist financing?)

Back on the 29th of last month someone put together a survey on DEA Watch asking if retired (and active) DEA agents were being contacted privately by CIA or FBI (agents) about any info they might have acquired regarding drugs and terrorist financing. I did not want to respond to that survey because I was also contacted at my home (I am now retired) and I was asked several times not to disclose my conversation with anyone... not even my wife. But tonight at dinner my wife told me she had been contacted by another (DEA retiree's) wife at work (my wife is not retired) who said that her husband was asked to do an interview with a newsmagazine about CIA and FBI looking into terrorist financing their operations with drug money with the hope that any contacts might lead them to OBL or his major cronies. I called my friend who told me that there is a major move coming out of the White House to get OBL or some of his cronies. Apparently there is a lot of pressure being put on CIA and FBI to get OBL or his major cronies before the November election. So after talking to my friend on the phone me and wife sit down to TV where there was a report that CIA is also putting pressure on the Pakistanis to deliver OBL or his gang so that Bush can use it as a victory toward getting re-elected.

First, let me say thanks to the DEA Watch writer who broke this story on the 28th by surveying the rest of us. Now we know that this questioning of DEA retirees is not limited to us but part of a massive new operation or program being pushed by the Bush Administration to help George Bush get re-elected. The news report said that a magazine called "The New Republic" (hardly a liberal magazine) will do a big story on this.

For my part, I am very, very disappointed that Mr. Bush is now politicizing the war on terror for his personal benefit. Had he not invaded Iraq he probably would have caught OBL long before now. And DEA should have been a major player in Afghanistan because of all the drug activity there that is paying the terrorists to do what they do.

------------------------------------------

Some flakey stuff at that link, I know, but this sounds reasonable. TNR is referenced, and I saw no DEA info in the online article. Maybe in the magazine?

Of course, they should be looking for UBL, and drug money etc., but the pressure for political timing will cause a Big Stink if it is widely covered.

One thing is clear: it is very important to Rove to get something jumping during the dem convention.

[Manix]

61. I hope this evil, lying son-of-a-bitch is sent crawling back to Texas.

[Kiliki]

63. Great! I hope they do catch OBL

and if he isn't caught alive thats okay with me too. One less very bad bad man in the world.

And then Bush can be accused of playing games and allowing Americas worst mass murderer run free all this time so GW could politicize it.

Beautiful. Its win/win.

Plus theres still enough time untill Novemeber after the dem convention, the truth about his manipulations can be fully exposed to ensure full Kerry-Edwards recovery despite a likely initial poll bounce for Bush.

go Bush go! get your guy!

[dbt]

65. Get a KICK from

the sticks!

:evilgrin:
dbt

[Killarney]

67. Is anyone else reporting it yet?

Besides CNN?

[dusty64]

68. All political.

They do not and never have given a shit about catching these people, where has this effort been for the last three years? Shout it from the rooftops!

[underpants]

74. Link to complete article thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1947022

[underpants]

76. Kick

:kick:

[Bush was AWOL]

78. Why is the media not giving more play

to the staging of the fall of Saddam's statue? This is proven that this happened right?

[NeonLX]

80. Because they suck.

Suck, Suck,

Suck

, I tell you...

[ibegurpard]

81. Has everyone who replied to this thread

contacted CNN and indicated that they want to know a whole hell of a lot more about this story?

[Shopaholic]

82. Keith Olbermann is taking this subject on tonight on Countdown

I get the show's newsletter and the title was "July Surprise" and it was about the New Republic article.

[John_H]

83. Iff Kerry, Edwards and every other top Dem do not scream about this NOW

it's their own fault if chimp produces Osama during the convention.