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JFW Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 09:52 PM
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Funny Jeb story
If you haven't already heard about this, it's pretty funny. Reports are that he seemed a little pissed off about it.

Teenager Stumps Gov. Bush On FCAT Question

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Gov. Jeb Bush had come to pitch the virtues of reading, but instead got stumped on a math question Tuesday.

During a speech to high school students who mentor younger children in reading, a teenager asked the governor a basic
geometry question taken from the Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test, which Bush has championed.

"Me and a couple of my friends ... we know that the FCAT is a very important part of schooling in Florida and we were
wondering if you could answer one of the questions we remember from the FCAT?" said Luana Marques, 18, who just graduated from Freedom High School in Orange County and is heading to Flagler College in the fall.

The luncheon crowd at an Orlando hotel, gathered to honor 200 students who take part in the Teen Trendsetters Reading
Mentor program, laughed and Marques posed the question: "What are the angles on a three-four-five-triangle?"

The governor gave a steely grin and then stalled a bit. "The angles would be ... If I was going to guess ... Three-four-five.
Three-four-five. I don't know, 125, 90 and whatever remains on 180?"

Marques had an answer, although it wasn't the right one: "It's 30-60-90."

The correct answer was 90 degrees, 53.1 degrees and 36.9 degrees, said Michelle Taylor, a graduate student in mathematics
at the University of Florida, when told about the governor's pop quiz.

Bush thanked Marques for the answer and then launched into a defense of the FCAT test. To graduate, every Florida public
school student must pass the FCAT or, after three failures, a college entrance exam like the SAT.

The FCAT is also the basis for the grades each public school receives. Those grades govern which schools get an extra $100
per student as a reward and which failing schools stand to see students receive tax-funded vouchers to attend private school.

Critics of the test have long complained that it's unfair to black and Hispanic students in urban districts. Critics also
have argued that students in predominantly white districts are better prepared for the exam than students in urban schools
partly because of financial disparities.

"If the point is, I haven't been in school for the last 30 years, that's true. But if I'm going to be graduating from high
school and I can't pass a 10th-grade aptitude test, then I'm fooling myself," Bush said. "The fact that a 51-year-old man
can't answer a question, is really not relevant. You're still going to have to take the FCAT and you're still going to have
to pass it in order to get a high school degree."

Marques said later that she had asked the governor the math question only as a joke but she does believe the governor and
others who call for the use of the test should be able to pass it.

"I think I offended him," Marques said of the governor. "I don't think he had much of a sense of humor."
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:17 PM
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1. Any ever need to know the geometry answer? I haven't.
And the Bush's show you how far ahead you can get when you have a rich and influential family that is willing to do anything to get ahead.

Does everyone know that Neil Bush is the one who happens to sell the study book for the FCAT's? Small world huh?
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Blue Wally Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:53 PM
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3. Everyone should know about the 3-4-5 triangle
If you are building a form for a patio or anything else where you want a square corner. You measure three feet off on one leg and four feet on the other. Take a five foot string across the diagonal and adjust the joint until the two marks are exactly five feet apart. You then have a square corner. I always used this to try and convince people that math is important.
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:43 PM
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2. Having a BS in math...
Edited on Wed Jul-07-04 10:44 PM by Siflnolly
I can tell you that I don't know the answer off the top of my head.

I can tell you how to find the answer, but alas, I can't do inverse trig functions in my head. I can tell you one thing though, I damn well know that 125 + 90 is already more than 180. Also, when you've got a right triangle, the right angle is the biggest angle in the cheneying triangle...
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