Scary thought. What if bush dumps cheney and puts

[southernleftylady]

mccain on the ticket. Do you think it would happen?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. UMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

No

[southernleftylady]

2. LOL that really made me laugh out loud! n/t

[BlueCollar]

3. no

although Mccain will campaign for bush, there are deep divisions in the gop about mccain. The extremists can't stand him...see him as they did Perot...and after the hatchet job they did on mccain in the gop primary in 2000 there's no real love for bush on mccain's side of the camp...

[ashling]

14. And given the fact that the Bush team

is currently trying to get as much milage as they can from differences between Kerry and Edwards in the primary, I doubt it.

[allemand]

4. As Cheney makes all the decisions for Bush

he would have to dump himself, and that is never going to happen...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Here's A Scarier Thought

What if Cheney dumps Bush and asks McCain to be pres...


ROTFLMFAO

[Leilani]

8. No

because McCain would be the real Prez, & Cheney would lose control.

[leftyandproud]

6. Mccain, Powell, or Giuliani...and we're fu*ked. *NT*

[NashVegas]

22. Not Necessarily

It's all in how you spin it. It would be a cynical and desperate move, one people could be reminded of.

[DivinBreuvage]

24. McCain or Giuliani maybe, because of all the media hype.... but

I think the lustre is pretty well off Colin's star by now, and most likely for good. Both he (by his activities) and the administration (by its constant undercutting of him) have done a pretty thorough job of trashing his reputation and credibility with a lot more than just progressive Americans, IMO.

The perfect illustration of this is the Village People video, exposing this reputed "great man of honor and principle" as a sad-faced buffoon.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

27. Oh, please give me a break! Powell is part of the NeoCon Junta...

...and is just as guilty as the rest of them. He also has things in his past, personal and professional, that he would NOT like to see exposed to the public.

Giuliani is no longer thought of very fondly in New York City, particularly since his performance before the 911 Commission. Additionally, his personal life is an ongoing train wreck.

McCain would be the only viable threat. I don't see him accepting the VP slot unless he felt FratBoy was:

1. a definite winner in November, AND...

2. that FratBoy wouldn't last another 2 years in the White House because of pending legal matters.

[Fitzovich]

7. Well

It's an interesting theory. Cheney could still operate behind the scene and call the shots after pleading health reasons to take himself out of the campaign. I don't think it would happen but, there is merit in the theory.

[kerryin2004]

9. It doesnt matter...

I myself like McCain, but 4 more years of bush no matter who is number 2 is not acceptable..

[ashling]

15. I'm sorry to hear that.

I never trusted the guy.

[kerryin2004]

18. yeah, it is hard to trust a guy that fought for his country..

And then spent 6 years in a P.O.W camp..

[Jackpine Radical]

19. McCain is a conservative Republican and an honorable person.

Therefore he stands out like a green monkey among the general run of Vulcans, Texas twits, felonious physicians and other detritus that have collected under the Republican banner.

I can respect his integrity without liking most of his positions or {perish the thought} wanting him anywhere near the Democratic ticket.

[DivinBreuvage]

20. Why would that make him trustworthy?

Benedict Arnold fought for his country, and in fact excercised a far greater influence on the outcome of his war than John McCain did on his.

I am NOT belittling McCain's service or calling him a traitor, I am simply saying that Benedict Arnold played a much more influential military role and that military service has nothing to do with being trustworthy. Neither does being a prisoner of war.

Furthermore, military service and POW status have nothing to do with the man's political activity. I love and admire Joan of Arc, but if she came back to us today and set herself up as the next Phyllis Schlafly, that would be a problem.

[ashling]

30. Sorry if my post was a little curt

I plead sleep deprivation and the effects of the flu.

I do think the guy has some internal sense of integrity that most others in his party can not even fathom. However, I don't see how serving his country or his pow ordeal automatically set him up for sainthood status either. Hell, I just heard on the news last night about an ex-marine who fraudulently got a multi-million dollar contract from the Navy after inflating his resume with undearned medals. And there is no end to the number of generals who have lied to us over the years.

Some people thought that he would, in the end, turn out to be so disgusted with his own chosen party that he would come over to our side. I never trusted in that. He is now, always has been, and as far as I can see, always will be a diehard conservative Republican and will serve the interests of that bunch of snakeoil salesmen.

If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.

[CWebster]

10. Bush can't function without Cheney.

although, even if Cheney were to no longer officially be VP, what's to stop him from continue operating from some undisclosed location? It ain't stopping him now and Powell and McCain have both demonstrated their ability to tote water.

[dusty64]

11. I can't see them working together.

Besides crashcart IS the power behind the junta, chimp would be lost without him and he won't give up that power easily. I also think making a change now will make them look as rudderless and confused as they actually are, not to mention desperate.

[onehandle]

12. Cheney won't allow that.

He'll stick to Bush like glue as they crash and burn.

[blueknight]

13. i think that

cheney is going to have "heart trouble" about september and will want to "retire" to spend more time with his family.( make me gag) that will free monkey boy up to take someone else.

[gmoney]

16. W has declared Crashcart will stay on the ticket...

W never admits to mistakes, and ditching Cheney would be admitting to a big one, so unless Cheney has a major "episode" or is the fallguy for PlameGate, I think W is stuck with Cheney (a.k.a. Mr. Warmth)

I suspect this is the ONE thing W won't flip-flop on.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

23. Yep. It'd be his biggest flip flop yet

no can do.

[patricia92243]

17. Not everybody wants to do all the work, and let Bush get the glory.

[Wind Dancer]

21. Cheney will never give up power!

[PATRICK]

25. A little question of fear

Putting an independent, viable replacement for Bush NOT part of the in group is a giant step toward removing Bush himself should the proverbial doodoo hit the fan. As much as they would like a great boost for the ticket, a phony one may have to do, a loyal turnip who would make Gerald Ford look brilliant and independent.

That leaves out ambitious people like Guiliani too. It would have to be someone they could absolutely control and depend upon. If you are wondering why they quite haven't dared more those type of qualities among the Bushistas and neocons are so rare as to be aberrations.

Another Quayle type newbie who could hold his own against Edwards?

No, the one everyone really wants off the ticket is Bush himself, and since this would be the first step his hands are tied until the Convention makes it too late to change.

Of course I am disgusted how the media is trying to sour the Dem choice of VP while it showered all sorts of praise and respectability on the Halliburton CEO. Of course they will fall into orgasmic ecstasy should Bush nominate a tree stump as a new running mate.

[AntiCoup2K4]

26. Just heard McCain on the radio saying it would be a "cold day in...

...Gila Bend Arizona" before he would be anyone's VP and that means "Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, or Vegetarian".

[porphyrian]

28. What if Bush takes a dump on Cheney? Huh? - n/t

[Walt Starr]

29. McCain refused the Veep slot in 2000

he was Bush's first choice in 2000. Why would he want it now that the fit has hit the shan?