Experience??? Now the Pubs are pounding on Edwards Lack of....

[opihimoimoi]

Seems to me they miss the point. While Cheney has experience, he also has not been using them very well... has he? He should know better than to utter "GO FUCK YOURSELF" in the Senate Chambers to a fellow Senator who was just asking questions.

Cheney is arrogantly out of touch and he may also be in legal trouble as they look for his involvment in securing Haliburton with 76Billion in nonbid contracts...

Edwards will do well in the VP position. He will be a good back up.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. I'm not worried

I don't think most independents are listening at all to the Rethug banter.

[opihimoimoi]

14. I hope so. but many indys listen to fox cnn and msnbc

[Ganja Ninja]

2. I'd rather have someone who lacks experience.

As opposed to someone who can't recognize or admit or even learn from his mistakes.

[opihimoimoi]

15. How True SC How true.. good point

[aden_nak]

3. Edwards and Dubya

Didn't Dubya only do one term as Governor before becoming President? Wouldn't that reasoning then mean that Dubya was too inexperienced to be the Presisdent. . . since apparently the same level of experience doesn't even qualify Edwards for the VP slot.

[JHB]

10. But Edwards doen't have *'s roster of "advisors"...

...you know, the "adults" standing ready to "resore integrity" to the White House.

[aden_nak]

13. Yeah. . .

He also didn't have years and years of success working with the legal system, which, um, oh, wait. :P

[opihimoimoi]

27. Bushes advisors turns out to be a bunch of remoras/parasites.

[opihimoimoi]

16. The prez comes across as a sage, a wise good ole boy...

but, in reality, Bush is a dufus of the 3rd magnitude.

[lovedems]

4. I think they are missing the point because they are desperate.

Desperate people don't think clearly.

The Kerry/Edwards ticket looks young and fresh. Bush/Cheney looks stale.

[opihimoimoi]

17. I luv it,, young fresh and smarter, more benevolent

Bush = old/stale/out of touch/greedy/egotistical/photo ops/connections.

[LittleApple81]

5. Even the Liberal media was laughing at this yesterday. Bush

had no experience... and nobody said it but Cheney really as f*cked up everything. We don't need this for 4 more years.

[opihimoimoi]

18. the media will laugh harder as the days roll on, Bush is imploding

[rpannier]

6. Lack of experience vs

Lack of common sense, lack of vision, lack of morality. I'll take the lack of experience because that will come.

[opihimoimoi]

19. Good one, add lack of goodness/altruism/benevolency

[Philostopher]

7. It's the hubris.

They can't imagine there's anybody out here in 'flyover territory' or anywhere else, for that matter, who doesn't see what they see, and share their desires. They think they're wonderful -- so of course, everybody in the country agrees! That's what we're being told, after all -- except for those meddling kids over at CBS/Viacom, and the Internet. But that's okay -- they have enough of a vise-grip on their 'base' -- they're so freakin' out of touch, they don't understand that the more people are unemployed, the smaller their base is; for every kid that's killed in Iraq, they lose a few more. Every time one of them says 'fuck' in a public place, a few more not-too-conservative Christians wince and reconsider their votes.

The hubris is killing them by attrition -- too many people are being affected personally by their mistakes and outright blunders, or embarrassed by their attitude. Propaganda won't bring back Lila Lipscomb's kid, or give back jobs to areas that have been hit hard by jobs leaking to Malaysia. No amount of propaganda will convince a Rockefeller Republican Baptist deacon that when the P and the VP are saying 'fuck' in places that make the news, that they're the sterling examples he should be offering his teenagers.

They've heard the old saw, 'when you're in a hole, stop digging!' -- but they haven't stopped digging yet because they can't see the hole. There's too much hubris in the way.

I hope they keep at it. Four months seems like a decade from here, but at this rate, the attrition will work to our advantage, if we can hang in there and offer an appealing enough alternative. I think we have the raw materials -- it's going to get interesting.

[opihimoimoi]

21. I can see the headlines:: Bush/Cheney drown in Hubris

Arrogance will get you nowhere

[havocmom]

8. So we pound back with the resumes of the junta poster boys

Now that some in the media are venturing into the unknown territory of actually telling some truths, now is the time to get out all the sordid details of shrub's failed business ventures and how Poppy's pals and Saudi royals have always propped him up; that he is NOT a successful business man, that he does have a lot of skeletons in his well guarded closet and that he shows no evidence of caring about the average American.

Cheney's resume should be even more fun to expose.

Media, how about doing the job you failed at in 2000 when we were only exposed to the spin and outright myths of bush*/Cheney? Now that enough bloggers, foreign press, independent film makers and patriots who have cared enough to dig for truth has exposed the sham that is the current team of 'grown ups', isn't it time for major media to give up the ruse and do the job they are supposed to? To fail at this point, when so much is exposed already is to render your industry completely irrelevant.

Media in America: do you job and call the lies what they are.

Kerry/Edwards don't have the experience in failure, crooked dealings, thuggery and cronie-ism the bush*/Cheney team has. They have experience of a different sort: Educating themselves on the real issues facing Americans and working to address those issues on behalf of Americans.

It is not that they lack experience, it is that their experience is in a different field altogether than the republican ticket. Kerry/Edwards has actual experience in Public Service

[opihimoimoi]

24. So true, The Kerry/Edwards Team have a good record, rich in

experiences helping people and causes.

The Bush guys got a record of greed and domination.

[tandot]

9. Bush had 6 years experience as Governor, which doesn't count

for much.

Edwards has 6 years as Senator and served as a member of the Senate Committee on Intelligence.

So, Edwards will be way more suited for Vice President (or even President) than Bush was ever suited for President.

[opihimoimoi]

25. Better than Bushes for sure and guess what . Murphy came... to Bush

on 911.....result:: stare into space of 8 minutes...

So what Bush is saying is

"We know what it is to be attacked and not have experience.. we Know, we lived it.... its not a good thing, it numbs you, makes your heart go thumpity thump thump. makes you stare at the ceiling for 8 minutes.. puts you into shock.... I know, I was there...."

[MallRat]

11. Edwards has more national defense credentials than * in 2000.

But sorry... that counterargument makes too much sense.

:eyes:

[opihimoimoi]

26. We sure coulda used them on 8/6/01 das fer sure... Bush slept thru that

one

[kentuck]

12. No one was ever as unprepared or lacking in experience as GWB*

And he was chosen by the Repubs for the top of the ticket. Remember that he did not know who Musharraf was when a reporter asked him? He had traveled very little around the world. His knowledge was very limited. Unfortunately, after 4 years, it is still very limited.

[opihimoimoi]

28. As America learned, we picked the Dufus of the World. He is

truly an American anamoly, an abberation, a spot on the fine linen, a roach on the hard wood floor.

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

41. He didn't even know the Prime Minister of Canada

Remember the comendian that tricked him about PM "Poutine"? That was a true story. The media propped him up so incredibly much.

[DS1]

20. The only person with less time in the Federal gov't than Edwards is Bush

Think about it.

[DS1]

22. And! 4 years ago that was supposed to be a GOOD THING! Not a

Washington insider, but an outsider with fresh ideas. Anyone remember that?

Hypocritical fuckwads.

[opihimoimoi]

31. The Failed Ideas Level is beyond Acceptance.

Far too many bad decisions by this Team Bush.

The Successful Idea Level is Far Too Low creating Imbalance

Encourages Non Forward Progress in the Overview Mode.

Team Bush is Poor Odds Guys, face it, live it, Team Bush is = to POOR ODDS. Why Live with Poor Odds? when its good odds to go with a Change/Kerry showing PROMISE with better Odds....? Don't be afraid of putting Good Odds on your side, its the no brainer thing to do, the Sane thing to do.

[UTUSN]

23. They Got NOTHING------Nothing to Attack on

The "experience" thing? NOTHING. The original post already nailed how CHEENEE's "experience" has taken us down a rabbit hole. And Shrub's only "experience" was with wrecking businesses, before taking the country on this trainwreck.

How 'bout the "trial lawyer" thing. NOTHING. The answer was he helped underdogs against Goliath companies.

What I like about JK is that he doesn't shake, doesn't run. When the so-called "intern" thing came up, he was UNSHAKEABLE.

The Shrubbites are preparing their July/Aug/Sep/Oct surprises, whatever they are, from "terror" alerts or attacks to capturing OBL. JK's got a contingency panel making response plans.

Get used to it, folks, we've got a winning team.

[opihimoimoi]

32. Like I said earlier, "Reduced to Guessing....Level"

The Pubs got nothing but the Pubs not gonna play like a loser hand, they gonna come at us with a "Winning Hand".... meaning, they got a shitty hand but they gonna raise the stakes until we have to say ALL IN at one stage or another.

We have reached that stage... but the Pub Bluff is not working.. so they raise the stakes.... but Kerry out raises them with an Over the TOP raise himself...Pubs flommoxed/confused/bewildered,

and this is where we at. Pubs stymied for the moment..

[Redleg]

29. Bush and Cheney have lots of experience... at FAILURE!

LOL!

[opihimoimoi]

30. Worse, have no idea in how to self correct. Reduced to Guessing.

TEAM BUSH Shows EXTREMEEEEE Signs of NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME

[Cadfael]

33. Every time they say...

he's too green to be "a heartbeat away from the presidency", I yell at the tv "At least he's got a heartbeat!"

[opihimoimoi]

35. Really..... Ole Cheney is on Geritol for years now... brain is addled

[oasis]

34. JE is way more qualified than Chimpy was and he's only running for VP.

Looking back to 9/11, how "in charge" did Dumbya look in the school room reading "My Pet Goat" when all hell was breaking loose?

[opihimoimoi]

36. Not very Bright for sure.....

[Geo55]

37. Hey, it's just business...

[Hubert Flottz]

38. Experience = Bush!

BAD EXPERIENCE! As in, BUMMER MAN!

Ode To Karen H......

Did you ever see Karen make water;
She pisses one hell of a stream;
She pisses a mile and a quarter;
And you can't see her ass for the steam!

They will do anything to create a SMOKE(steam)SCREEN!

EDIT} What have we learned from Bush's experience?

[GiovanniC]

39. Let Orrin Hatch Make The Argument For Us

Orrin Hatch put it this way in the 2000 Election's Primary debates:

"My only problem with you, governor, is that you have only had four, going into your fifth year of governorship in a constitutionally weak governorship. And frankly I really believe that you need more experience before you become President of the United States. That's why I'm thinking of you as a vice presidential candidate."

That really oughta settle it.

[opihimoimoi]

43. He slept through Texas and he slept through the 8/6meeting in 01

[GiovanniC]

44. Yes, But Orrin Hatch Said

Two things:

#1: His mere four or five years in a mostly ceremonial government position meant Bush wasn't experienced enough to be President.

#2: That amount of experience is, however, sufficient for the job of vice president.

[opihimoimoi]

45. Poor Orrin, dunno when to shut the fuck up...now he is a no body in the

Bush Co.

\But at least HE can sleep. He gave the warning and no one listened...

[Hubert Flottz]

40. Re: "GO FUCK YOURSELF"

"Just because Dick has a Head don't mean he has a mind of his own!"

This has been yo thought for the day! That is all!

[opihimoimoi]

42. Poor Cheney, that will get him for years on end....until some day

he is relieved of it.