Why did the Al Qaeda wait until Bush was president to bomb the WTC??

[kentuck]

After all, they had bombed the WTC the first time just a couple of months into the Clinton Administration. So the idea was there! But they did not do it again for the remaining 8 years of Clinton's term? Why was that? They tried several terrorist attacks during and after the millenium but were unsuccesful.

However, 8 months after Bush takes office, they hit us hard. Bush was reading a book about a goat to small children at a school. Cheney was in Washington and was in charge. Unfortunately, his decision to shoot down planes came too late to do any good. By the time Bush was on his way to a bunny hole in Nebraska, the Pentagon had been hit also.

But why didn't they hit the WTC again while Clinton was President? They were thinking of it, for sure. Why did they wait on George W Bush? Was there some foreign policy decision by Bush that pushed them over the edge and caused them to act when they did? Can someone explain this?

[rpannier]

1. Because they knew

the Clinton Admin was on top of things. They'd have failed.

[rfranklin]

2. They saw opportunity in our national folly...

when the SCOTUS installed the weak and stupid frat boy who was totally unprepared fand unqualified for office.

[bryant69]

3. One explanation is that an attack

of this magnitude takes a long time to set up and coordinate. I mean this wasn't a simple operations.

But perhaps, that's not the answer you are looking for.

Another possible explanation is that they were on a time table not set in Afghanistan or in their cells, but set in Crawford Texas and the White House. I personally don't buy that, but there are others who do.

Bryant

Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[xocolatl]

8. I think there is something to that theory

:tinfoilhat: notwithstanding.

Not unprecedented in history: can you say Reichstag?

Obviously, there are other explanations, but I don't think such a hypothesis should be rejected just because it is too horrible to contemplate.

If Bu$hco could start a war in Iraq based on lies, just for the PNAC agenda, then who knows what they are capable of doing?

[SteelMan71]

9. I may not like him...

But, I cannot bring myself to believe that Bush would do such a thing anymore than I could believe the Right-Wing's claims that Clinton was bombing Iraq to distract from the Lweinski thing.

I also don't think floating such conspiracy theories does a whole lot to elevate the debate in this country.

[kentuck]

12. But the lies have been documented by the 9/11 Commission...

Even though Bush and Cheney and many of their supporters still refuse to believe it...

[SteelMan71]

20. 9/11 Commission Found a Lot of Things

That there were failures on the parts of several parties including the Clinton Administration.

[kentuck]

24. We all see what we want to see...

I suppose?

[FredScuttle]

56. Aha! The Clenis!

I was wondering when it would raise its (significantly large and pronounced) head!

[King Coal]

13. But it could be true, and you would still be saying that.

As Steve Martin would say, "I see, it's an existential deal."

[Bridget Burke]

14. Bush wouldn't "do" anything.

But quite a few of us believe that his people--at least--ignored warnings & let things happen.

These "conspiracy theories" have been floating for some time. They won't sink out of sight just because you want them to.

[Yupster]

45. Pearl Harbor conspiracy theories

are still floating around. I expect the WTC ones will still float around too.

[xocolatl]

15. Discourse

There are many many unexplained connections between the Saudi's, AQ, and Bush. Bush himself probably had nothing to do with it (if indeed this is the truth), but other, more shadowy figures in the background might have.

I'm not suggesting that this is the way things did happen. I'm just saying that thay could have happenned that way. I don't think it's wrong to talk about it and explore the issue.

As I said, such a thing is not without historical precedent. And if you think that a Reichstag, and its consequences, could never happen here, then I might respectfully suggest that you pay closer attention to the Patriot Act (I and II).

[SteelMan71]

17. Didn't say it couldn't happen

But, they don't do much to bridge the partisan divide. Also, mentioning Reichstag and the allusion to Hitler makes it even worse. Just my 2 cents.

[kentuck]

19. "..a partisan divide" ????

Where ?? Who ?? Why ??

[xocolatl]

21. Godwin's law temporarily suspended....

I'm not one to cry "fascism!" at every turn.

The reality is that this country is moving towards an American form of fascism.

See Umberto Eco's 14 Features of Fascism (ironically, one of them is conspiracy theories). Not all of them apply here (thank God), but enough so that I would argue that we're at a very delicate point in our history.

I'm just saying, it's a worthy conversation topic. If it makes us more vigilant against true fascism, all the better.

[FredScuttle]

55. "Partisan divide"?

the only divide is between those who seek the truth and those who seek to hide it, or worse, ignore it.

Spare us your concern over the partisan divide...we didn't build the fucking thing after all.

[bowens43]

18. Complicity or negligence.....

911 happened because bush allowed it to happen.

[Booster]

31. I believe it was because of Bush's threat of

"a carpet of gold, or a carpet of bombs" that was made to the Taliban regarding the pipeline negotiations. 5 weeks later they hit the WTC. I don't think you can threaten people like that and not expect something to happen. I know if someone threatens Bush, Ashcroft certainly takes action.

[Bush was AWOL]

39. I can't stand him either, but

I refuse to believe a President (even Bush) would purposely do 9/11. You can blame them for it, but I seriously don't think they did it. However, I could see this whole thing going over chimpy's head and him not even knowing about it. Cheney is one evil son of a bitch, in my opinion. Still, though, I don't think they did it.

[bryant69]

11. You can believe what you like

This is America after all. I personally don't believe it, more or less for the reasons the other gentleman cited.

[Selteri]

37. Reichstag - Long List of 'coincidences'

Yeah, a lot of similarities to it, far too many to be comfortable including the flag tour. It isn't too horrible to contemplate, it just should be.

[LTR]

40. I don't believe MIHOP/LIHOP

I do believe Bushco fucked up by ignoring intelligence reports, and the CIA and FBI also fucked up by not following up on investigations.

Bush was irresponsible in that he ignored the significant threat of terror that was abundant. Clinton claimed he warned Bush, and whether you think Clinton was blowing smoke about this claim or not, I haven't heard Bush deny this, so it must be true.

Bush simply underestimated AQ, and it cost us thousands of lives and a lot of security. He is a failed president.

[cthrumatrix]

4. 911 needs to be investigated like a crime... there never was an

accounting of who the hi-jackers were, fales id's and instant photo's in the press the same day....

Ask the FBI whistleblowers what they knew.

These questions are tooo big for a simple answer. We have NO investigation of this crime and the steel was immediately cut/shipped out of the US.

Wonder why?

[JayS]

5. Planning an event like this takes time may be one reason. The...

...trial run may have been Project Bojinka but who knows. They may have just known that Bush would be more of a help in bringing about the Christian/Jewish vs. Muslim world that they desire.

[CrispyQ]

6. He knew the Bush admin would get his family safely out of the US.

Sorry, I really don't have an idea why. I'll be interested to read other responses.

[Solly Mack]

7. Maybe it's because of the SA Royals/Bush Family connection

maybe they were just biding their time to see if Bush got into office for the big hit.

Maybe by just having a Bush in office it made all the difference in the degree and severity of the attack

Maybe they were building up to such an attack and a Bush in office had no influence whatesoever on their thinking...

Maybe it being Shrub in office just brought an added bonus to the attack

[noonwitch]

10. Al Queda didn't hit the WTC in 1993

It was a group that may have had ties to them, but they were a separate group.

I think that it took al Queda a long time to implement their 9/11 plans. They hit the Cole right before Clinton left office, but had probably not finalized their plans for the WTC until after Bush took office. They may have been motivated by the Unocal negatiations with the Taliban over a pipeline, in which the Bush administration basically gave the al Queda allies a choice between money and bombing camgaigns.

[Andromeda]

51. That's right.

The group that bombed the WTC in 1993 went on trial, at least the leader went on trial but I don't know if everybody was caught and tried.

[JayS]

58. There is little chance that all were ever caught or the terrorist's...

...base dealt with. It is sort of like the Oklahoma City bombing. Find a couple of members of the guilty party and then call it a day.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february/26/newsid_2516000/2516469.stm

In May 1994, four men - Mohammed Salameh, Nidal Ayyad, Mahmud Abouhalima and Ahmad Ajaj - were sentenced to life for bombing the World Trade Center, which killed six people and injured 100.
In October 1995 Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, a blind cleric who preached at mosques in Brooklyn and Jersey City, was sentenced to life for masterminding the bombing,.

He was also found guilty of the murder of extremist Rabbi Meir Kahane and a scheme to assassinate Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak during a trip to New York in 1993.

The bombing of the World Trade Center has been totally eclipsed by the events of 11 September 2001 which saw thousands killed, the collapse of both Twin Towers and an all-out "war on terror" declared by the Western world.

Rahman's organisation, the Islamic Group, is believed to have links to Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda network, accused of carrying out the 11 September attacks.

[bowens43]

16. They didn't get the response he was looking for from Clinton.

Bin Laden needed a very specific kind of fool in office for his plan to succeed. Attacking the towers was not the final act, it was an act that was intended to incite widespread conflict between the west and the Islamic nations. Bin laden found the perfect fool in GW Bush. They knew from his mindless rhetoric and obvious ignorance that he would overreact. They knew that he would respond like a drunken cowboy. They knew that he would inflame the anger and the wrath of the Islamic world (bush pissing off our allies was a bonus). Bin Laden played bush like a cheap fiddle.

[Stone_Spirits]

22. is there actually definitive evidence it was Al Qaeda ? n/t

[G_j]

36. van with a Koran, intact passport found on the street

what more do you need?

[rman]

60. LOL

all those stupid terrorist leaving the most obvious evidence all over the place... almost as though it's deliberate... nah, can't be.

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[NewYorkerfromMass]

32. Well apparently Osama did have Clinton to worry about

The millenium plot was foiled and were it not for a fuck up by Halliburton's security the USS Cole would have remained intact.
Meantime Clinton had drones looking for him and missiles minutes away to execute him if and when found, and then Bush recalled that whole "fly swatting" mission.
So Osama lived thanks to Bush.

[xocolatl]

25. All plausible theories:

In order of tinfoiliness:

1) Coincidence: AQ happenned to finish their planning after Bush took office

2) AQ wanted to use Bush to spark a new Holy War between Christendom and Islam

3) AQ acted independently, and the Bush Administration allowed it to happen for political gain.

4) The Bush Administration (or associates) planned the attack with AQ.

They should all be discussed on their merits (i.e. whether or not they fit the data well). None should be rejected out of hand until the data suggest otherwise.

[Ani Yun Wiya]

50. Is there not a fifth consideration?

* and crew laid it down.
and then blamed it on their current set of "enemies".

MIHOP goes not far enough, I think it was DIFFAP
(Did It For Fun And Profit).

[spooked]

27. THE REAL QUESTION Should Be...

Who PROFITTED from al Qaeda waiting until the B*sh Administration before Bombing the WTC??

And the answer is: HALLIBURTON!!

[xocolatl]

28. "Who benefits?"

Always a good hypothesis-generating question.

Of course, by no means proof.

[Mandate My Ass]

29. Carpet of gold or carpet of bombs....

http://democrats.com/display.cfm?id=272

The War at Home: Federal Law Enforcement Officials Follow International Terrorism's Money Trail from Northern Virginia to Saudi Arabia, but President Bush Says That's Far Enough

A Special Report from Democrats.com
29 April 2002

By David Lytel

In an exclusive interview with Democrats.com, French intelligence analyst Jean-Charles Brisard, co-author with Guillaume Dasquie of Bin Laden: The Hidden Truth said they stand by their version of events first published last November, that the September 11 attacks followed the breakdown of secret negotiations between the U.S. and the Taliban. More recently, Brisard reports, new information has come to light that reveals the extent of Saudi Arabia's role in financing terrorist activities against Americans and Israelis.


<snip>

As originally reported by Dasquie and Brisard in their book, the September 11 attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center were the direct result of a disasterous failure of U.S. foreign policy that confused the interest of American oil companies with the interests of the American people. As the book details, a U.S. delegation led by Ambassador to Pakistan Tom Simons met on numerous occasions with high ranking Taliban officials in the spring and early summer of 2001. The Americans sought the turnover of Osama bin Laden and Afghan approval for the construction of an oil and gas pipeline through their country by a consortium of oil companies led by California-based Unocal. In return, the U.S. offered to permit the Taliban to sell its oil on world markets, to deliver direct foreign aid assistance and take other steps to informally recognize the Taliban as the legitmate government of Afganistan despite its deplorable human rights record.

The PNAC prequel

http://pilger.carlton.com/print/124759

Two years ago a project set up by the men who now surround George W Bush said what America needed was "a new Pearl Harbor". Its published aims have, alarmingly, come true. : John Pilger :12 Dec 2002


The threat posed by US terrorism to the security of nations and individuals was outlined in prophetic detail in a document written more than two years ago and disclosed only recently. What was needed for America to dominate much of humanity and the world's resources, it said, was "some catastrophic and catalysing event - like a new Pearl Harbor". The attacks of 11 September 2001 provided the "new Pearl Harbor", described as "the opportunity of ages".



And then there's the ignored PDF

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0518-04.htm

August Memo Focused On Attacks in U.S.
By Bob Woodward and Dan Eggen


Under growing criticism for a failure to act on the Phoenix memo and other potential warning signs, Bush administration officials have said repeatedly that U.S. intelligence analysts never envisioned the possibility that terrorists would use jetliners as suicide missiles and slam them into such buildings as the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

"I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people . . . would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile," Rice said Thursday.

But a 1999 report prepared for the National Intelligence Council, an affiliate of the CIA, warned that terrorists associated with bin Laden might hijack an airplane and crash it into the Pentagon, White House or CIA headquarters.

The report recounts well-known case studies of similar plots, including a 1995 plan by al Qaeda operatives to hijack and crash a dozen U.S. airliners in the South Pacific and pilot a light aircraft into Langley.

"Suicide bomber(s) belonging to al-Qaida's Martyrdom Battalion could crash-land an aircraft packed with high explosives (C-4 and semtex) into the Pentagon, the headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or the White House," the September 1999 report said.


Add it all up and you get LIHOP.

[mememe]

30. They didn't.

As you noted in the body of your post the first bombing of the WTC happened a few months into the 1st Clinton term.

While no other attacks were launched against the WTC there were several terrorist (al Queda?) attacks launched against the U.S. during Clinton's time in office. The attack on the Cole, and the bombing of two embassies in Africa come to mind. I have no opinion on why one particular target (the WTC) was not hit again during the Clinton administration, but many others were.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

33. Those targets were hit bec. of Repuke refusal to fund Clinton's

anti-terrorism initiatives. FBI agent John O'Neill was blocked from investigating the Cole bombing because the trail lead to the Saudis. Republican majority in Congress refused to fund many initiatives that would have prevented al Qaeda attacks.

[JayS]

38. The Cole should have never been in that harbor in the first...

...place, especially without being ready to fire on a moment's notice. There were supposed to be tankers to bring the fuel out to the battle ships but for some reason this was not done.

[kentuck]

35. And since the Cole was attacked late in Clinton's term, then....

the Bush Administration had no obligation to follow up? It wasn't on their watch? Is that what you are saying??

[watercolors]

34. bin laden angry at bush sr.

for stationing US troops in Saudi Arabia, he felt it violated his country and Muslim law. also remember his father and brother both died in the US in separate airplane accidents, both unexplainable while visiting bush Sr. about oil business for Abusto oil company, {bush business}. Read the unfortunate son, it is there.

[PATRICK]

41. At least one thing for sure

Bush visibly removed a lot of restraints and investigations that had prevented operations in the past. Though other presidents were deferential to ANY Saudi willing to be "Americanized" Bush blinded the American eyes and silenced the alarms.

They did because they could. Even just sensing that opportunity with instinct was possibly enough to trigger a full scale attack. The Al Qaeda warnings themselves- as we have seen- are also test to see if the cat is asleep.

They might gamble- and rightly so- that we are still made vulnerable by Bush- but they also know the working echelons are not necessarily all taking the signal to shut up and do nothing.

They might actually wait until AFTER the election when the Bushistas are demoralized and totally dazed by defeat.

[kiahzero]

42. Simple

They knew Bush would react the way they wanted him to react. The stated goal of al Qaeda was to bring about war between the West and Islam. Clinton wasn't going to fall for it. Sure, they continued to attack the US overseas, but only under Bush would they get what they wanted.

Republicans can say that Bush is good against terrorism, but he's being played by the terrorists... a smart President would have never gone into Iraq, and certainly not the way Bush did.

[rniel]

64. Exactly

When england was having terrorist problems of it's own with the IRA. I believe at first used strong military might over there that really didn't get them anywhere close to stopping it only fueling the anger of everyone.

Then the new strategy was simply to treat the terrorists as the criminals they are and arrest them. That's when they started to get cooperation from regular people over there in helping find those responsible. Turned out to be a more effective strategy.

WE COULD'VE DONE THAT!! in the aftermath of 9/11 with so many countries very willing to lend a hand in rounding up terrorists.

[rniel]

65. Exactly

When england was having terrorist problems of it's own with the IRA. I believe at first used strong military might over there that really didn't get them anywhere close to stopping it only fueling the anger of everyone.

Then the new strategy was simply to treat the terrorists as the criminals they are and arrest them. That's when they started to get cooperation from regular people over there in helping find those responsible. Turned out to be a more effective strategy.

WE COULD'VE DONE THAT!! in the aftermath of 9/11 with so many countries very willing to lend a hand in rounding up terrorists.

[against all enemies]

43. "Because they could."

[JSJ]

44. Bush complicity makes more sense than official gov case

Start with the undisputed fact that Queda was the product of the CIA's training and financing of the Mujahadeen, ostensibly to aid the jihad against the Soviet Union. Add to that the CIA's credentialling of these 'trainees' for later entry into the US. And remember that State and a handful of journalists began issuing warnings detailing the threat that these 'loose cannons' posed to the security of the US- followed by the DoD and Whitehouse's intentional 'failure' to take these threats seriously. And superimposed on all of these events is the continuing presence of GHW Bush and his never-severed ties to the CIA. So, are these CIA-recruited 'freedom fighters' mere patsies--- a cover for big government-initiated plans that lay ahead- or were some of them active participants in the attacks, albeit as subordinates in a CIA-planned operation?

Of the 19 names purported, by FBI chief R. Mueller, to have pulled off the attacks on 9-11, 15 have been identified and are still alive and completely innocent of any involvement in the attacks on the WTTs- and Mueller, when questioned about this hole in the Administration's case, admitted as much.How did the Bush Administration come up with names of suspects so soon (and so egreciously wrong)- just one day after the nation's greatest terrorist attack occured on American soil? And why aren't these two fatal flaws in the Government's case getting more notice in the press?

There are more fatal flaws in the Bush administration's case than found in an Inspector Clouseau movie. But with offical investigations completely hidden from public view- and with total decision making powers surrounding the investigation in the hands of Bush officials- it's very likely that innocent people will continue paying for the monumental crimes of the Bush Family and their cronies long after public suspicion of their involvement is finally battened down by a compliant press.

And it fucking stinks!

[Tight_rope]

46. It was Bush all along! n/t

[shraby]

47. Is it possible that

it happened on purpose but they didn't envision the collapse of the two towers and the horrid loss of life? I agree that putting two jets into the towers was a monstrous thing to do, but if they hadn't collapsed, the loss of life would be considerably lower and maybe it was considered an acceptable number.

[eridani]

48. Stick to what we can prove

We can suspect, but probably never know. What we DO know is that he is an accessory after the fact.

Prince Ahmed bin Salman bin Abdul Aziz, owner of War Emblem (who won the first two of three Triple Crown races in 2002) was at the top of the list of a group of well-connected Saudis who left the country from Lexington, KY in a luxurious customized 727 shortly after 9-11. According to one of bin Laden’s top operatives, Aziz knew well beforehand that a major attack was to take place in the US on 9-11. And the Bush administration let the bastard fly the coop. The very fact that a couple of hundred Saudis were flying around within the US to central pickup points like Lexington, while US citizens were prohibited from flying from Minneapolis to Chicago is totally outrageous.

On March 30, 2002, Al Qaeda operative Abu Zubaydah was captured in Pakistan and questioned by two teams of intelligence agents. One of the teams consisted of Arab Americans posing as Saudi agents, who hoped to scare Zubaydah into thinking he would be turned over to the Saudis for the usual torture and beheading. Far from being intimidated, Zubaydah was relieved, and told them that a call to Prince Ahmed would explain all—and he knew all the phone numbers from memory. He also told them to call Prince Sultan bin Faisal bin Turki al-Saud and Prince Fahd bin Turki bin Saud al-Kabir, members of the House of Saud related to King Fahd.

He said that several years earlier the royal family had made a deal with Al Qaeda in which the House of Saud would aid them as long as they kept terrorism out of Saudi Arabia. The interrogators insisted that 9-11 changed everything—the House of Saud would not stand behind them after that.

Zubaydah said that 9-11 changed nothing, because Ahmed and the others knew beforehand that an attack was scheduled for America that day. They didn’t know exactly what it would be, and they didn’t want to know. Bin Laden knew the Saudis couldn’t stop it without the specifics, and also that they couldn’t turn on him without disclosing their foreknowledge.

Bush helped Ahmed leave the country right after 9-11, unmolested until June 22, 2002, when he supposedly died of a heart attack in his sleep. On June 23, Prince Sultan died in a car wreck. On July 30, Prince Fahd died in the desert of thirst. None was older than 43, and all are beyond questioning now. That these three were named by Zubaydah and then died young a couple of months later is extremely suspicious.

DELIBERATELY FACILITATING THE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE WHO KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT 9-11 OUT OF THE COUNTRY BEFORE THEY COULD BE QUESTIONED MAKES THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION ACCESSORIES AFTER THE FACT. REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!

Sources: Craig Unger, House of Bush, House of Saud, Scribner, 2004
Gerald Posner, Why America Slept: The Failure to Prevent 9/11, Random House, 2003

[sweetheart]

49. weapons deployment latency

"they" are enemies of western liberalism, and truth, the root power
that makes this western liberalism good is womens and minority
equality... at the root is feminism, something that the queda/bush
people are at war with.

The world trade center was a democratic (read: political party) zone
more so than a repuke zone. Someone else mentioned the communist
purges of 30's germany and the reichstag fire. Methinks similarly.

"they" waited until they were firmly implanted in DC with the coup,
to introduce the military element to drive the country in to a world
war global grab for power.

"they" are reincarnated nazi souls... really. When things went south
in 40's germany, the souls reincarnated in a place to re-constitute
their dream of white racism and military conquest of the caspian
basin to control the world's fossil fuel supplies. What changed
was the bodies/passports of the nazi's, and now we call them
republicans. The reincarnate nazi plague in america has been a long
plan, to ultimately subvert your enemy.. brilliantly executed.
The USA is now behind enemy lines, and a vichy government is firmly
in place.

[Zorra]

52. Because they are in bed together. n/t

[moondust]

53. F. U. Cheney has a theory.

"Terrorist attacks are not caused by the use of strength, they are invited by the perception of weakness," (Cheney) declared, using a line that has become standard in his speeches over the past several weeks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/04/politics/campaign/04repubs.html

[Rex]

54. OBL read Dubya's psych-eval

They knew that he would destroy America by getting rid of the Constitution and suspending elections. That stupid Congress-critters would go into "super-patriot" mode and bend over backwards to do away with as many civil liberties as possible. That a police state would ensue after 911, and eventually martial law would be demanded to protect us from the next terrorist attack.

[LunaC]

57. You assume

that Al Qaeda acted alone in the 2001 attack. They didn't.....


So far, no one has offered a plausible explanation for the following sequence of events:

In May 2001 the U.S. State Department met with Iran, German and Italian officials to discuss Afghanistan. It was decided that the ruling Taliban would be toppled and a "broad-based government" would control the country so a gas pipeline could be built there.

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/7969.pdf.
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/features/fex20867.htm


Even as plans were being made to remove the Taliban rulers from power, Colin Powell announced a $43 million "gift" to Afghanistan.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-091701scheer.column
http://www.cato.org/dailys/08-02-02.html


Meanwhile, the U.S. Embassy in the UAE received a call that Bin Laden supporters were in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives. It was rumored that Bin Laden was interested in hijacking U.S. aircraft.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pdf

In June 2001 the decades-old procedure for a quick response by the nation’s air defense was changed. NORAD’s military commanders could no longer issue the command to launch fighter jets because approval had to be sought from the civilian Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld.

http://www.observer.com/pages/frontpage2.asp

In July 2001, the private plot formulated in May for toppling the Taliban was divulged during the G8 summit in Genoa, Italy. Immediately after the conference, American, Russian, German and Pakistani officials secretly met in Berlin to finalize the strategy for military strikes against the Taliban, scheduled to begin before mid-October 2001

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1550366.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,556254,00.html


In September 2001 the "catastrophic and catalyzing" modern-day Pearl Harbor envisioned years earlier by the White House members of thePNAC came to pass when the WTC and Pentagon were attacked with U.S. aircraft. Immediately, the finger of blame was pointed at Osama bin Laden, a former CIA operative with ties to Afghanistan. Suddenly, the U.S. "gift" of $43 million to the Taliban in May was cast in a new light. Coincidentally, Pakistan had participated in the plan to attack Afghanistan and the chief of Pakistan's Inter Service Intelligence agency was later linked to a 911 hijacker after wiring him $100,00 just days before the WTC fell.

http://cryptome.org/rad.htm
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO109C.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=1454238160


In October 2001, with flags waving, crowds cheering, and anthems playing, the "War On Terror" and the hunt for Osama began when Afghanistan was attacked right on schedule of July's secret meeting

Shorrtly afterwards, public focus was diverted to Iraq.





For details on the PNAC coup of the White House see "The Whispering Campaign" link below.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=976762

[leftofthedial]

59. they needed help, complicity and incompetence at the top

for the plan to succeed.

They got none of the above from Clinton and all of the above from the bushgang

[leesa]

61. Because Marvin Bush had to plant the plastics first.

They needed a little 'help' from their friends in the Bush Crime Family.

[rniel]

62. They wanted to provoke war in the middle east!

Everything we have done since then is just what Osama bin laden wanted to happen. Remember his first few speeches he talks about a holy war.

[drdigi420]

63. I think AQ just knew that Bush was too weak

and focused on Saddam to thwart the attacks as Clinton had done.

Bush made the US a softer target.

[JayS]

66. I think it was just one time we did not get lucky and stumble...

...on to the terrorist's exact plans in time.

[TWiley]

67. They hate Dick, Colon, and Bush

Wow, that sounds like the title of a real "American Family Values" porno movie!

Actually though, the Muslim Fundamentalists hated the former bush administration for the previous war. The thought of, and the reality of, Infidels killing Muslims with plans for a permanent place on Arab soil was too much.

Also, there was a lot of talk before the last election from the neocons about Iraq being the "Unfinished War" I believe that Fox actually aired a series with that title.

It is a bush family value thing. Senior romanced Saddam after the overthrow of the Shaw, and he necked with Osama during the Russian / Afghan war.

Now they are butt-holes because Iraq backed out on oil contracts with Haliburton, and the Haliburton pipeline project in Afghanistan was going nowhere. Largely due to fundamentalist Muslim influences.

It is normal for a republican to buy ya flowers if you have something to steal or, to simply kill you if you have nothing.

Its a christian conservative family value thing.

annnnd ......... that is my opinion anyway.