Had 9/11 not happened, what would shrub's numbers be like today

[greenbriar]

would all his stupid bushisms go unnoticed???

would he have been able to have free reign like he has had?

[fdr_hst_fan]

1. I'm not a mathematician,

but I don't think they make numbers that low!

[7th_Sephiroth]

2. no his numbers would be in the low

teens, bush's numbers steadily declined after he took up office, 9-11 gave him a boost up to i believe 60%

[ProfessorGAC]

8. I'll Take A Different View, & Make A Correction

Bush peaked at nearly 89% after 9-11, not 60%.

I don't think he'd be in the low teens. The hard core conservative vote would still have stood by him and there is no way he would have fallen below the high 20's.

However, i would guess something more like the low to mid-30's is realistic. He was heading in that direction before the nutjobs hit those buildings. I think the economy would have caused a massive negative sentiment if he hadn't had the "war on terra" to prop him up.
The Professor

[7th_Sephiroth]

13. my mistake, sorry

but i think the whole plame thing might still have happened and bush would be gone by now if it werent for the war we are at

[ProfessorGAC]

15. On That We Completely Agree

I just don't see ANY president falling to the low teens. Just seems enormously unlikely.

Still, low 30's is pretty horrible, especially given that 20% who would vote for a Repub if JESUS was the democrat.
The Professor

[7th_Sephiroth]

18. i think even hardcore repubs would

see him as a drunken fratboy looser and drop his ass

[ProfessorGAC]

20. Now You Did It! We Have To Disagree Again!!!!

Just kidding, but the data really seems to show that there is about 1/5th of the voting public on each side of the policial spectrum that would stay loyal to their ideological politicians, virtually without regard to actual facts or circumstances.

That's unfortunate, but the data is pretty convincing.

Hey, disagreeing like this is pretty OK, huh? Not exactly throwing bricks and calling names. Good thing, no?
The Professor

[7th_Sephiroth]

21. tis a gentelman's disagreement

george bush is the great uniter, against him, this perpetual war is most likely the only thing heeping pickup driving, whiskey drinking, american flag waving Freeper types on hisside

[ElsewheresDaughter]

3. i don't know if they publish negative poll numbers...do they?

[greenbriar]

4. I think the election would be a no brainer

had 9/11 not happened.



I think that is the only thing that kept him in the "graces" of the people. He got lucky. The rest of us died a little with each person that died

[Warpy]

5. Sure

The anthrax mailings wouldn't have been scaled back, and he'd have killed more than a handful of his targets. That would have been used as justification to go after Saddam Hussein, and we'd be pretty much where we are now, with the people he whipped into a frenzy of fear over the Iraqis' nonexistent war machine loath to admit they were bamboozled by this bunch.

Remember, Bush needed a war. He grabbed power under extremely dubious and unprecedented circumstances, and only a war would cause the sheep to rallly around such a bad leader. That's the one lesson of history that his bunch have learned. Remember also that he's got Congress and the USSC in his pocket. There was little to get in his way as he ruined everything this country stood for.

[jay-3d]

6. no

issues like the environment would cause outrage, instead of being put under the carpet by the media.

[nostamj]

7. there was a GREAT thread

in the 'old' DU that had all the newspaper headlines from 9/10.

the chimp was in DEEP SHIT (as pointed out in F911) and had a low appproval rating prior to hitting the TRIFECTA

remember this always, WHO actually BENEFITTED from 9/11... WHO slept well... WHO had a 'fabulous' year???

[greenbriar]

11. thats right

I forgot about the "year" comment

[Kazak]

9. Can you have a negative approval rating?

:shrug:

[rpannier]

10. Hell No!!!!!!

They'd have gotten killed in the '02 Senate race as well.

[cmf]

12. They would be in the toilet

:hurts:

The majority of people voting for Bush are doing so because they think he can "keep us safe".

[catmandu57]

14. If I remember correctly

people were saying he was ready to take his ball and go home, then came 11 Sept.

[greenbriar]

16. damn obl....

I wish bush would take his ball and go home, I can't wait to see him cry November 3rd


bbbbuuuutttt


dddddddddaaaaaaaaaadddddddddddddyyyyyyyyy can't we make the supreme court rule that I can stay???

[Morning Dew]

17. His numbers

would be whatever was required to go on the license plates on any given day... then back to the cell.

[GiovanniC]

19. It's Quid Pro Quo

Osama sends Bush's numbers sky high.

Bush sends Osama's (recruitment) numbers through the roof.

Osama then has resources to send Bush's numbers sky high again.

Whether this is intentional or not may depend on how much "tin foil" you'd like on your head, but there is no denying that these two make up a vicious cycle and they feed off each other.

[KansDem]

22. Not more than 49%...what it was on September 10, 2001.

Other than spreading fear throughout the US, he hasn't done anything...not unlike his "achievements" as oil CEO and Governor of Texas.