12:30 pm SANDERS (I-Vermont) talking about Patriot Act.. FORCEFUL!

[LittleApple81]

CSPAN

[LittleApple81]

1. Listen to this people. He is GREAT!

[Green Mountain Dem]

2. Yep...that's our.....

Bernie!!!! He is gonna kick ass and take names.

[Wind Dancer]

I love Vermont!

Can't wait to move there in the future!

:toast:

[Robbien]

3. Crap, I just turned it on to see Bernie leaving the podium

What did he say? Right now Wolf is speaking in favor of the Patriot Act.

[LittleApple81]

4. The repugs are just crazy. We won't be able to read from the library.

What assholes. Now Coble from North Carolina.
THERE IS NO ABUSE, NO ABUSE, NO ABUSE.
ASHCROFT WILL ABUSE IT AND HIDE THE EVIDENCE, YOU FOOL!!!

[LittleApple81]

5. He is back!!! but yielded to Nadler from New York. n/t

[LittleApple81]

6. Now they want the judiciary committee to check the amendment but

we never even read the Patriot Act before we passed it!!

MICHAEL MOORE, THANK YOU! they are admitting on the floor they did not read it...

[LittleApple81]

7. We don't need to surrender our civil liberties.

[LittleApple81]

8. SHAYS from Conn: I LOST HUNDREDS OF my constituents

on 911... 911 911

[LittleApple81]

9. He is disparaging "some librarians....." very snide tone...

[Wind Dancer]

10. He is an idiot!

[LittleApple81]

11. And he won't yield. Jerk!

[Wind Dancer]

12. Serrano is not going to put up with his BS!

[LittleApple81]

13. Serrano (D-NY): Shays is insulting New Yorkers when saying that

they don't care about the victims of 911... very offensive when New Yorkers lost the most victims.
But why do they hate us? BECAUSE OF OUR FREEDOMS.... so we will eliminate our freedoms so that they don't hate us!

[BeHereNow]

14. Tuned in- Turned on!

Thanks for posting the C-Span alert, LA81!
I was about to do the same.
Serrano is kicking ass!
BHN
Edited for typo...

[LittleApple81]

15. Serrano said it: The House is good as calling bills exactly the OPPOSITE

of what they are...Patriot Act? not such, because we want to destroy what the American patriots who founded our country stood for.

[Wind Dancer]

16. Dems always try to reach across party lines

unlike the other side who attack and spew hatred.

[Wind Dancer]

17. Porter Goss is up!

Imagine him being head of CIA? A scary thought.

[LittleApple81]

18. They don't want to add the amendment with only 20 minutes discussion

on each side... well dedicate more time, you morons!!

[LittleApple81]

19. THESE MORONS APPROVED THE ACT WITHOUT READING IT

and now want to stop the amendment with righteous arguments to invade our freedom.
ABUSES HAVE HAPPENED AND ARE HIDDEN!!!!

[LittleApple81]

20. Goss from Florida: gave a phone number to report ABUSES. I did

not catch it... do you think it is the same fake number they gave Michael Moore?

[LittleApple81]

21. Is this the guy being considered for CIA head? Oh, my God! n/t

[LittleApple81]

22. A small comment from ??? The problem is not what the citizens were

reading in the library but what the FBI was NOT INVESTIGATING as they should have.

[LittleApple81]

23. Ron Paul (R - Texas): Don't sacrifice FREEDOM to preserve it!

That is good!
He is so direct... he is not a repug. He is a republican.

[LittleApple81]

24. The amendment would make Libraries a SANCTUARY FOR TERRORISTS!!!!

Lamar Smith (R - Texas)

[LittleApple81]

25. Terrorist will use taxpayer-paid computers to plot against America...

oh, my God, this is a REPUG!

[Robbien]

26. What? Terrorists are going to be hiding in libraries now?

Passing the time reading Harry Potter books?

[LittleApple81]

27. Conyers (D-Michigan): you can use subpoenas. This is not the

way to do it. YOU CANNOT GET INFORMATION ON ABUSES FROM THE DOJ: IT IS CLASSIFIED.

[LittleApple81]

28. The chair of the session said to Conyers "The gentleman has expired"

do you think it is wishful thinking???

[Robbien]

29. Yes, how idiotic is it that we rely on the Oversight Committee

The Oversight committee has been asleep for three and a half years.

[Robbien]

33. This amendment is the reason they increased the terror alert today!

Bush has said he does not want the Patriot Act lessened and will start vetoes if he doesn't get his way. Then Saunders added this amendment to the Patriot Act. Surprise, the terror alert is raised right before the discussion and vote.

[Wind Dancer]

30. Burton using the same old 9/11 excuse for

changing our constitution.

[LittleApple81]

31. Barbara Lee (D-California) Let's get back our rights today!

[LittleApple81]

34. Hostettler (R-Indiana) - Repug - Inconsistent to add this amendment

because you have subpoenas for cattle rustling but if we pass this amendment we could not get a subpoena for terrorists???? WHAT????

I am confused. Is that what they want? The spin, spin, and I get dizzy.

[Wind Dancer]

32. Why does every single Republican

want to change our constitutional rights? This is insane. We need to win back the congress during this election.

[Robbien]

37. Bush put out the word he wants the Patriot Act unchanged

The Repubs have to fall in line. I do not think that even the moderate Repubs will defy him on this one.

[Wind Dancer]

35. Reo, Woolsey sounds scared to death.

[LittleApple81]

36. Woolsey (D-CA) - BOOKS ARE NOT THE ENEMY - remember

Nazi Germany. We want to preserve the right of Americans to read.

[LittleApple81]

38. Jackson-Lee (D-Texas); NOT A SINGLE TERRORIST for 911 was

caught in a library.

[Wind Dancer]

39. I love Sheila Jackson Lee!

She is powerful and is willing to speak up against these republicans.

[LittleApple81]

40. Wow... somebody on this thread nailed it: RIDGE'S WARNING WAS DESIGNED

to, among other things, REPEAL THIS AMENDMENT.

[LittleApple81]

41. KUCINICH on!!!! We should not worry about what they are reading but

that they CAN READ.
COURAGE AMERICA, FREEDOM AMERICA, SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT!

[LittleApple81]

42. Udall (D-New Mexico): Search without PROBABLE CAUSE is unconstitutional.

[Wind Dancer]

43. Go Dennis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wonderful, he sure got a lot of info out in a few seconds.

[Robbien]

44. How many votes are needed on this amendment?

[LittleApple81]

45. I have no idea. n/t

[LittleApple81]

46. SHAYS: We need to respond to WHAT WE MOST FEAR... hummmm

this is exactly what they want to do: TERRORIZE US INTO SUBMISSION. Jerks.

[LittleApple81]

47. McDermott (D-Wash): IRAQ says their new draconian rules are like

the PATRIOT ACT - except that they are going to have martial law on top of that.
Is the next step martial law?

My comment:
YEAP, we wanted the US and Iraq to be the same: both under martial law.

[Wind Dancer]

48. Rep. Shays is being a real jerk!

Rep. McDermott Bush created CIA Marshall law in Iraq, don't buy F-911 tickets on the internet, soon we will have Marshall law. Scary!

Yikes, I don't like this.

[LittleApple81]

49. Wolf: nobody has died in an attack since 911. TERRORIZING US WITH

YELLING WITH OSAMA BIN LADEN. And he is closing so nobody can reply.

[LittleApple81]

51. WE DID NOT HAVE ATTACKS FOR YEARS AFTER THE FIRST

ATTACK on the WTC!!! you jerk!

[Wind Dancer]

50. Rep. Wolf now telling the house they can't say certain

things because people are listening and watching this. WTF is going on here?

God help us!

[LittleApple81]

55. wrong place. sorry.

[Wind Dancer]

52. Terra, terra, terra, terra,

it will never end. Wolf is a bully with no respect for any of his constituents.

[BeHereNow]

53. Someone PLEASE ask Shay this question!!!

He is spewing the "We are at war with terrorists!" rhetoric
in defense of destroying the Bill of Rights and stripping
Americans of all Constitutional rights surrounding due process
of law and privacy...I WANT TO KNOW THIS, MR. SHAY!
Why do you not insist that the Patriot Act apply to the
Cheney Energy Commission Meeting Notes and the Sibel Edmunds
testimony and the thousands of other "State Secrets" the
criminals in the White House are concealing?
His argument has no weight or logic if it only applies
to "certain" people in our country...while giving complete
license to "others" to conceal information.
BHN

[Wind Dancer]

54. Postponed!

[Robbien]

56. Meaning what? Does it come back soon for a vote?

Frustrated in Illinois

[DaveSZ]

58. They didn't vote on it?

?

[LittleApple81]

57. TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM UN! What fuck-ups repugs are!!!

Smith (R -Michigan) WANTS TO TAKE THE MONEY AWAY FROM UN!
cut off your nose to spite your face...
Why doesn't he take the money away that HALLIBURTON AS STOLEN!!!

[LittleApple81]

59. AIDS MONEY: no taxpayer funds maybe used to promote sex trafficking

and prostitution???? WTF!!!!
Groups that promote prostitution on their web sites??? WTF.
I quit. THESE FUCKUPS ARE TOO MUCH FOR ME.

This is Todd Akin (R Missouri)

[Robbien]

60. And he is using Food for Oil scandal

The US is a big partner in that scandal, but you know the part of the report that mentions the US companies will be redacted for National Security reasons.

[LittleApple81]

61. REPUGS ARE TRAITORS, REPRESSERS, FASCISTS, IDIOTS,

SLIMERS of whomever opposes their stupidity.

[TheCentepedeShoes]

62. Me confused

Does this come up for a vote later today? Or when?