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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 11:58 AM
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IF/WHEN we take the WH/Congress back......
.....if/when we get some control back...what should happen to all these MONOPOLIES and REPUKE CORPORATE MACHINES that've disrutped and corrupted our DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES...shouldn't they be investigated and HELD ACCOUNTABLE for their CRIMES...or will we continue to allow them to continue to manipulate the entire process into oblivion?

THE MEDIA WILL STILL BE OWNED BY *THEM*...and the MONOPOLIES will STILL have control over every aspect of our lives with our CONSUMPTION ADDICTIONS....so what should be done.....if/when we're in control again...to put to an END...ONCE AND FOR ALL...to these criminals and their influence over ours and the worlds very LIVES and FUTURE?
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:08 PM
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1. Hey Joe Friday
me?I want the House and WH back especially-watching the way the nazi/repubs run the HofR can really piss a LIBERAL(say it loud and proud)off
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:22 PM
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3. Well...I'm a Joe'ette Friday....
....I hear ya but what about the corporate MEDIA and corporate lobbiest that are in CONTROL regardless of who has power...if we don't do something about these influences to the populace...isn't it all for naught? :shrug:
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:18 PM
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2. Your thoughts are in the right place.
But, I'm doubtful that there will be enough honest and courageous Dems to do what should be done.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:26 PM
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4. BINGO.....doesn't matter much that we had 8yrs in the 90's......
Edited on Thu Jul-08-04 12:27 PM by jus_the_facts
....either....if these factions aren't TAKEN OUT o' the equation then we continue to lose even if/when we win.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:33 PM
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5. The hope is that enough people have realized how close
America has come to being taken over by illegal means. Having witnessed that, maybe even some of our cowardly Dems in Congress will step up to the plate.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:40 PM
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6. But it already HAS been taken over and IS illegal....yet...still..
....not enough people pay attention...and the ones who do are controlled and manipulated within'..ala our current Dem representation...and the population in general by controlled disinfo...:evilfrown:
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:40 PM
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7. Be fun to slap huge fines and shut down
the companies who decided to "give up their patriotism and incorporate in the Bahamas post office box".

Maybe even revoke the US end of some of these "dual citizenship" people. Like, say, Ahnold?

Ah, but then you'd have all kinds of people screaming that it's hurting the jobs of the people who still actually work for the companies.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:50 PM
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8. The needs o'the many outweigh the needs o' the few........
....and the few have ALL and the many are shite upon...soooo 'round and 'round we go...the ongoin' paradoxes o'life will remain unsolved...as we bicker and argue over the same ol' solutions to the problems with no absolution. :nopity: :grr:
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:00 PM
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9. frustrated KICK
x(
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:05 PM
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10. Hopefully We Can Use the Energy Left Over
Edited on Thu Jul-08-04 01:05 PM by Beetwasher
from the outrage over Bush and his ousting and use that momentum to keep activists active.

When Kerry's in the WH we can then turn up the heat on him AND congress to start making real changes...Including stuff like re-instating the fairness doctrine or something similar...

Once Kerry's in, our job is only just beginning!

:hug:

Hi again darlin'!
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:10 PM
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12. ....and put a s'load of 'em in PRISON and outta commission......
....so they can't regroup against us AGAIN!! :nopity:

:hi: Babe!! :pals: :*
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:12 PM
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13. Yeah, I Would LOVE To See President/Prosecutor Kerry
Edited on Thu Jul-08-04 01:13 PM by Beetwasher
Go into action holding the criminals of this admin. accountable for their crimes. It would go a long way in getting the US back some of it's lost standing and prestige in the eyes of the rest of the world...

Remember, he was one of the driving forces behind investigating the BCCI scandal back in the day...These are the same thugs from back then.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:32 PM
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15. ....if Diebold and TERRA are allowed to steal or stop this election......
.....wonder what Kerry/Edwards will do then? *cynic mode* x(

....indeed it's PARAMOUNT that if they do win in Nov. that these actions take place...or else the right will continue to scheme their agendas into reality!
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FighttheFuture Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:08 PM
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11. There's a powerful grass roots movement that has started...
With removing BushCo in the likes of MoveOn.org, MediaMatters, etc. Hopefully, that will keep on moving, pushing the dems at the local level FIRST to be more to the left and bleed it upward to the party. Edwards may also make a mark given his background and Kerry has character and stands on his principles. He just needs too be shown.

Too many have tasted and seen what could be. It will take at least four generations of hell to breed this knowledge out. So, this is the chance to create a more just system for all. Otherwise, the country will be lost and civil war or collapse is inevitable.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:21 PM
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14. TIME....is o'the essence......
....they've *the right* have been on a mission since FDR's NEW DEAL...to systematically dessimate education and control information....all the while we've played right into their hands and helped 'em along by playin' *bipartisan* politics...which has caused us to lose even when we win....the GAMES have to cease once and for all....or you're correct....the end is quite f'n nigh!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:34 PM
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16. Yes in theory. In practice to even try would incitge Civil War
These Bushevik will mobilize their Sturmtruppen in ways we can;t even yet imgaine.

In theoiry, yes. Hell, I want to see the Democrats give it a try because it is our only hope.

But that will take more balls than they have shown to date. Several would sacrifice their careers, a few would sacrifice their lives, IMHO, before the Imperial Family even got close to being in jail or pushed out of power.

Sorry. Don't kill the messenger...
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:44 PM
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17. Oh I know you're correct....but as the sayin' says...
...."....a little REVOLUTION every once in awhile is GOOD for a republic!" Thomas Jefferson

:hi:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:46 PM
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18. Maybe so. But let's have NO illusion that it will be BAD for all of US
as individuals.

I would much rather this was resolved in the Old Ways, thrugh the System.

Unfortunately, I have my doubts as to whether the Old System has much more force nowadays as a wet noodle.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:59 PM
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19. Indeed....yet WE have power over THEM with our MONEY.....
....it may make us uncomfortable in many ways to quit giving it to them but it's our ONLY weapon left in reality....I've floated the idea of a non-bloody revolt by NOT funding their businesses...like say...the MEDIA by not payin' monthly extortion payments to cable and satellite corporations....yet we're JUNKIES when it comes to our idiot boxes..gasoline etc...and continue to fund our demise buyin' into their lies...to be lazy and comfortable and ignoring our logic and conscience!!! :crazy:
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 02:00 PM
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20. I'm ALL for CRACKING the BALLS of the Media Congolmerates!
They are against us now and they should EXPECT NOTHING for their mal treatment of us! I say get out the STEEL BAT and CRACK their BALLS apart!

:grr:
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 02:20 PM
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21. I CONCUR....as with all their conspirators......
*BALLBUSTIN' BATTERS UNITE* :bounce:
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 03:25 PM
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22. kickin' 'n' screamin'
:kick:
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:46 AM
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23.  kickin' 'n' screamin' once again......
:kick: :o
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