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Misinformed01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:37 PM Original message |
How did men get women to support institutionalized sexism? |
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elfwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. Self loathing? |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. Women vote their husbands' wallets. |
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Misinformed01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. It is very weird, I agree |
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elfwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. What does that mean? |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. Potentially valid |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
95. Let's qualify this, please - |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. How is "the man show" sexist? |
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Misinformed01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I have a question |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Please don't answer a question with a question, you shouldn't have to |
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Misinformed01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. OK, then let's try this |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. I agree |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. What is wrong with that? An attractive woman jumps on a trampoline for |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
92. What is wrong with that? |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #92 |
155. The sickness is your inability to see that the people who balk at Janet's |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #155 |
158. On MY side! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #158 |
196. Deleted message |
Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:59 PM Response to Reply #196 |
203. How I wish I had chosen "Infirmaryfeminist" as my user name... |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #203 |
240. You like to see a beautiful naked woman as much as any man, yet |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:59 PM Response to Reply #196 |
205. I nominate this as the most sexist post of the thread! |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #205 |
208. I'll second that! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:24 PM Response to Reply #208 |
213. i'll third that |
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Kipepeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:50 PM Response to Reply #205 |
228. I think it has stiff competition from some of his |
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Tosca (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:47 PM Response to Reply #196 |
225. Infirmary feminists? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
104. that's not "biology"...it's social conditioning |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #104 |
122. too true. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #122 |
134. so true...don't know if it was my filters |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #104 |
129. thanks for pointing that out. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:37 PM Response to Reply #129 |
139. if it's biology, that means nothing can be done about it |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. I totally agree. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
186. "and jealosy of those more attractive than" they |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
52. that's definitely SEXIST |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
88. You tell me..how is a show that reduces women to tits and ass SEXIST? |
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Kipepeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
223. Oh Please |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. Younger women have forgotten |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
7. As a woman in business, I'm very sensitive to this issue |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
8. Be careful - don't over apply that sexist label |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Exactly, they(people who do this) cheapen the term by never hesitating |
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Misinformed01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Slandering men who are just being honest |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I am glad someone else has problems with the Man Show |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Frankly I thought Jimmie was a twerp on Stein's show and |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. His new show on ABC is great |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
168. Imagine if men had to showcase the size of their penis |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #168 |
183. You just described the Howard Stern show |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:50 PM Response to Reply #168 |
192. Women that showcase their tits in an effort to be considered |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #192 |
206. Perhaps not to you |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Cultural freedom is a two way street baby |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. False dichotomy |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. I'll take door number three please |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. You mean there is some sort of gray area |
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Misinformed01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I am exhausted! |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
175. Personally, I just had to put my |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:48 PM Response to Reply #175 |
190. SNARF! |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:53 PM Response to Reply #190 |
195. Why thankee sir |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #175 |
219. haha, ouch. |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. You betcha! |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
70. There is, but going clothes shopping makes me wonder |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:17 PM Response to Reply #70 |
118. you should see the young women parading around |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. The only doors are choice or not choice |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
59. Just love to miss the point, don't you? |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. I'll criticize Victorian prudishness when I see it cloaked as PC labels |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:50 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. I understand your concern |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:33 PM Response to Reply #68 |
180. Yet you have no problem with labels like "Victorian prudishness" |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #68 |
182. huh? |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #44 |
108. "Some women like dressing in bikinis and showing off their cute butts." |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. I wasn't talking about strippers exclusively |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. You must not get around much. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
178. was someone suggesting we were being forced to watch the man show? |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. How about a world where gender is a non-issue? |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. There will always be a component of objectification in sexuality |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. How do you make the objectification more egalitarian? |
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Misinformed01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. To the point of women not getting jobs they are qualified for? |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. That's wrong |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #51 |
77. If you don't mind me being frank |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #77 |
93. fascinating, excellent post |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #77 |
159. Oh, Cats Against Frist, I'm so sorry. |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:07 PM Response to Reply #77 |
209. Cats Against Frist...will you be my god? |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
81. Why would that be necessary? |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
82. I'd prefer that |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
162. Thank you! |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
101. Since men control most of the media |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #101 |
133. that's a valid point |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #133 |
144. thank you! |
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Kipepeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 07:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
244. In other words |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
39. Nobody has "honest" sexual attractions and feelings |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
164. ah... the ' WE CAN'T BE FORCED TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT ARGUMENT" |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Just listen to this crap... |
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Misinformed01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. The problem is that there are men |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
58. "Ask any woman..." |
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Misinformed01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. I am sure your sister is nice |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Does your sister want to be a Juggie... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:48 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. She's already grown up,thank you |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:55 PM Response to Reply #71 |
198. nah....not so good |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. She already is |
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Misinformed01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. I am comfortable enough with myself to care |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. Deleted message |
Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:04 PM Response to Reply #87 |
94. What, you don't think women in the adult movie business |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:09 PM Response to Reply #94 |
106. What a joke |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. My mother would never watch The Man Show and |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #110 |
130. Deleted message |
Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. so Ripley should exalt low-brow entertainment just so h/she won't appear |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #132 |
137. Yep, according to a few guys here I'm: |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #137 |
149. Well, thank God we will never run out of men who are willing to provide |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #137 |
165. LMAO, Ripley |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #110 |
207. I doubt he has any idea of how his sister really feels about that show |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #80 |
111. or "I want the men in my life to think I'm 'cool, or hip'" - just like the |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #72 |
91. As does she |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:59 PM Response to Reply #72 |
204. it's worse now than the 50's |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
136. Ah ha! |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:52 PM Response to Reply #58 |
193. watch out for her |
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Tosca (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:44 PM Response to Reply #17 |
64. The Man Show |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:43 PM Response to Reply #64 |
146. It is parody... |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:57 PM Response to Reply #146 |
201. I used to think so as well |
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Tosca (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:42 PM Original message |
Well then, |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. I know a woman who used to work on the Man Show |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
109. sexist are NOT necessarily misogynists |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
160. bwahahhahahah |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
163. Being liberal |
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Kipepeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
232. Being Pro-choice is not a one-way ticket |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. feminism in the 80's took away the feminism of who we are |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
12. Many reasons. Speaking as a domestic abuse survivor |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. Excellent points |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
14. Not sure |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
40. Bravo. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
16. I remember many female friends expressing their adamant denials |
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slappypan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
21. class resentment |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
23. Lazy thinking |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
24. Isn't it that third-wave, reversese psychology feminism bullshit? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Maybe it would help if |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. It would help |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. That is why the United States must emulate Sweden |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
214. look at the democratic party |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Oh I agree |
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Misinformed01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. Absolutely |
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Ithuilwen (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
48. All I can say is |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. Good for you! |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. "Third wave...bullshit"? |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
55. Third wave feminism is watered down feminism |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
96. I don't agree with all aspects of third wave but I think they have done |
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oldcoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
28. They are protecting their status |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. I've experienced that type. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
50. exactly |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
53. I think most women are sexist (anti-woman) |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. exactly, and women do have a hand in perpetuating sexism |
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Misinformed01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. Very much so |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. Do you think it has anything to do with the |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #74 |
131. you mean "conformity" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:42 PM Response to Reply #131 |
145. Oh, heck |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:18 PM Response to Reply #145 |
167. LMAO... |
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Ithuilwen (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. As far as leading goes |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:35 PM Response to Reply #63 |
217. it's high school |
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Ithuilwen (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:42 PM Response to Reply #217 |
222. Thank goodness. nt |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
102. At work the women complained about a women's promotion |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #53 |
170. Just a bit of a generalization... |
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Ithuilwen (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
57. Funny thing is |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
69. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. Deleted message |
indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. Didn't say that...never thought it. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Maybe some specifics might help elucidate your point. n/t |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. Why don't you explain |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:41 PM Response to Reply #89 |
221. it's our damn wandering Uterus problem |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #83 |
176. You used the term feminazi |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #76 |
85. It's all over this place unfortunately |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:13 PM Response to Reply #76 |
161. Not at all...fairness and freedom |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. Excuse me?!?!? |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. I think yall are misunderstanding... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #84 |
97. Thanks Ripley, but that wasn't it. |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:07 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Oh My God |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #99 |
116. No, I wasn't, I was thinking of inner beauty and real character |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:28 PM Response to Reply #116 |
127. What's your definition of "inner beauty" though -- |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:48 PM Response to Reply #116 |
227. good knows no women in America have a deep understanding of who they |
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rene moon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:37 PM Response to Reply #99 |
138. what is the "Asian Beauty" argument? |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #138 |
148. Deep breath. OK, here I go. |
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rene moon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:49 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. Okay, that's what I thought it meant |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. Control has a lot to do with it |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 07:14 PM Response to Reply #151 |
243. I don't consider men like that |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:53 PM Response to Reply #148 |
230. Hey Cats! |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:09 PM Response to Reply #97 |
105. Oh. Okay. |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #105 |
124. Of course...many wrongs needed righting... |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #124 |
126. I guess I totally misunderstood you... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:35 PM Response to Reply #126 |
135. When I go to other countries that have no gender warfare... |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #135 |
142. Can you please NAME some countries |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #142 |
153. Whoa...Didn't say any of that... Read and consider...don't read into. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #153 |
157. And those cultures would be? |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #142 |
156. Who said anything about women who know their place? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #156 |
236. the problem is that you are mealy mouthing all around the "point" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #135 |
143. What countries? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:59 PM Response to Reply #135 |
233. come on already, get specific |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #124 |
231. yes it has been all good....... name a single bad thing that has happened |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #97 |
123. who are the members of this radical feminist agenda? |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #123 |
152. Still unanswered I see |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:17 PM Response to Reply #152 |
166. thanks, supernova |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #97 |
128. I'm still not understanding you |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:46 PM Response to Reply #97 |
224. what a sexist load of shit |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #69 |
90. Somehow the word feminist got a very bad rap. |
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dryan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #90 |
112. This is a very important issue |
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dryan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #90 |
113. This is a very important issue |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #113 |
119. Speaking of the reality TV shows |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #90 |
115. Recently started reading Betty Friedan's book,"It Changed My Life". |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
173. This would be an example |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
98. It's usually "I'm not a feminist, *but*........" |
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carolinayellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
100. Religion has a lot to do with it |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #100 |
147. Lots of stupid shit has been |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
103. I remember once I started a thread titled "Am I a feminst?" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #103 |
117. Deleted message |
rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #117 |
121. I'm debating the issue |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #121 |
125. Damn you and your attempt at humor here... |
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Logansquare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #125 |
172. BTW: what countries have no gender warfare? |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #125 |
177. because everyone knows |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #177 |
184. Nobody is making any insincere or fallacious claims |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #184 |
189. Good for you |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:59 PM Response to Reply #184 |
202. Wow, if this thread is any indication of how you |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:25 PM Response to Reply #202 |
215. I responded in kind |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #215 |
218. Bull |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 07:00 PM Response to Reply #218 |
235. I used the terms in reference to the discussion, |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 07:11 PM Response to Reply #184 |
241. so...what countries don't have gender warfare? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 07:09 PM Response to Reply #121 |
239. so basicall you intention was flame bait |
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Love Bug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
107. I don't get it, either |
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Mike Niendorff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
140. just look at it in terms of class and class-dominance. |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
154. Men killed and raped women systematically for thousands of years |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #154 |
171. And women poison men |
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Logansquare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:22 PM Response to Reply #171 |
174. Really? where does this happen every day? |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:35 PM Response to Reply #174 |
181. just |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #181 |
185. And those countries are? |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:44 PM Response to Reply #185 |
188. Once again, you miss the point entirely. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:53 PM Response to Reply #188 |
194. No, you're running away from the point |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:56 PM Response to Reply #194 |
199. I'm curious |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:13 PM Response to Reply #194 |
210. I won't define culture for you |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:21 PM Response to Reply #210 |
211. Yet more squirming |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:48 PM Response to Reply #211 |
226. I can't believe you are really that dense... |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #226 |
238. Yes, I'm quite familiar with Nietzsche's abyss |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:28 PM Response to Reply #210 |
216. you have yet to define this radical agenda, or discuss the "harm" |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:40 PM Response to Reply #210 |
220. It's easily seen, is it? |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #220 |
229. I can't force you to see it |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:59 PM Response to Reply #229 |
234. If it's easily seen |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:50 PM Response to Reply #171 |
191. I'll leave you to your woman issues |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:57 PM Response to Reply #191 |
200. So they are my |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 07:17 PM Response to Reply #171 |
245. ummmm, nope, not so very often |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
169. Women sense my power, and they seek the life essence. |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:30 PM Response to Reply #169 |
179. That is the crux of the biscuit... |
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wildeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
187. I think it is true that the word "feminist" |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #187 |
197. Yep |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 06:21 PM Response to Reply #197 |
212. and it'll take hundreds of years for sexism to be really combatted |
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Tosca (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 07:05 PM Response to Reply #212 |
237. Well, after all... |
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Unperson 309 (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-08-04 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
242. MANY Societies Have Something Similar! |
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246. Locking...... |
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