This HAS to be COMPLETE BULLSH*t!!!

[ElementaryPenguin]

Barf alert! This poll completely contradicts yesterday's NBC poll (a 12 point swing)!!

What helped Chimpy so dramatically? Fahrenheit 9-11? Edwards' lack of charisma compared to the matinee idol looks of Cheney??

:wtf:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040708/ap_on_el_pr/presidential_ap_poll

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. There's no fucking way

Must've been a poll of likely Republican voters. :eyes:

[ElementaryPenguin]

7. All the "good" news going down, huh?

I saw the first Bush bumper sticker I have seen in ages yesterday. They've cut Cheney off. It said "Bush 2004 Because one good term deserves another."

Good term? Just WTF would a "bad" term look like? Never mind - I don't think we want to know (if they steal this election - we're gonna see one!) Who the fuck could possibly fall that stupid sales pitch - since Bush is widely considered the worst pResident in history??

:argh:

[faithnotgreed]

18. i read this about a similar bumper sticker and what it means:

what someone said was

they are referring to another bush term being a jail term

[tcfrogs]

2. Definitely Cheney's matinee idol aura

[Eric J in MN]

3. They don't explain their methodolgy.

Some pollsters assume that there are an equal number of Democrats and Repblicans, and so if 60% of the respondents say they're Democrats who are voting for Kerry, and 40% say they're Republicans who are voting for Bush, the pollsters will adjust the result to say it's 50-50.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

4. New terrah Alerts?

What helped Chimpy so dramatically? Fahrenheit 9-11? Edwards' lack of charisma compared to the matinee idol looks of Cheney??<<

The new "Terrah" alerts???? Hunose. I think you are right... complete BS.

[ElementaryPenguin]

14. But those just began today

:shrug:
:wtf:

[HysteryDiagnosis]

21. "But those just began today"

Statistics never lie... but liars use statistics.

[WatchWhatISay]

5. Polls, Trolls

Maybe those two words have more in common than just ryhming. They are both imposters and manipulative.

The only thing polls tell me is that if its close near Nov. 2nd, there will be widespread cheating going on again.

[ElementaryPenguin]

9. They are DEFINITELY going to cheat! And they will get major help again

From the Fucking Fascist Corporate Media!!!!!

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Renew Deal]

6. It's bizarre to say the least.

Kerry goes up in almost every category, but he loses track? Yeah, that makes sense. And I love the commentary. Is that from people that were polled or the man on the street? That's a puff piece.

:puffpiece: :puffpiece: :puffpiece: :puffpiece:

[Literate Tar Heel]

8. it's people like this who are the problem

(from the linked article)

"I want Bush in there, because the other guy is like sending a boy to do a man's job," said Glenn Foldessy, 45, of Streetsboro, Ohio, outside Cleveland. Foldessy, who usually votes Republican, said Edwards made the Democratic ticket stronger, but not strong enough.


"We have somebody now who's established and has things on track and if we destabilize this government during the war on terror, that's playing right into the hands of the terrorists," he said.

gee, watch Fox News much, Glenn??

[ElementaryPenguin]

12. But there's no way people like that idiot are the MAJORITY!

If they are - fuck it - I'm finding away into another country! I'm not raising my kids amongst complete ignoramuses - they might end up marrying one!

:puke:

[Literate Tar Heel]

19. not the majority?

depends on where you live ... in small-town N.C. you may be surprised ... the real question is how the Republicans have managed to get people like that to trust Bush and believe he "shares their values" and distrust one of their own in John Edwards because he's one of those "evil trial lawyers" ... I'm just hoping the urban areas in the state hit the polls hard to give Kerry a chance here

[tom_paine]

10. AP is badly corrupted and untrustworthy. Also this is an established

Bushevik pattern prior to ALL "elections" they are rigging.

Real polls come out showing Kerry (or Cleland, or Gore, or Landrieu -- they couldn't quite steal that one but the pattern is the same) ahead. Perception being everything to Orwellian Monsters like the Imperials, their natural response is to return fire with a rigged poll will will maintain the fiction that the election is close.

You know close enough to STEAL?

I never realized how much I absoultely LOATHED the Soviert Communists for their constant lies, their fraud, their detesting of Common People...until the Busheviks revived Stalinism in a kinder and gentler Free-market form.

They remind of why I hated the Soviets so because THEY ARE SOVIETS. Free-Market Soviets.

I imagine this "poll" will come from the same Bushevik Mockingbird that the "Exit Polling" which, of course will now ALWAYS agree with the Diebolded or rigged result.

If Ron Fournier isn't a Bushevik Infiltrator or Mockingbird, he works for one. My guess is that Ron Fournier or his boss are also involved (in charge) of the AP "VNS" New Orwellian Exit Polling Divison (where ALL results agree with the Party Predictions).

[ElementaryPenguin]

13. Yeah, I keep hearing how CLOSE this election is going to be.

TOTAL BULLSHIT! Bush is getting creamed right now and everyone knows it! We need another entity doing exit polling for this election!

[Eric J in MN]

15. Please ask MoveOn to fund an Exit Poll for Nov. 2, 2004

Please ask MoveOn to fund an Exit Poll for Nov. 2, 2004.

They could hire Zogby to do Exit Polls nationally.

http://www.moveon.org/feedback/

[ElementaryPenguin]

17. Will do. Great idea!

:toast:

[drb]

11. Simple answer: The pollsters are paid by...

...the RNC to puff the polls. So when the "Diebold Correction Factor" happens in November, it doesn't look wacked out.

---

"No matter how cynical you become, it's never enough to keep up." -Lily Tomlin

[lancdem]

16. And notice how Rove is quoted in this article

He's hardly ever quoted in the media. Hmmmm...

[ElementaryPenguin]

20. Good pick-up.

That certainly smells.

[ScreamingMeemie]

22. Actually, I found this story more intriguing...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040708/ap_on_el_pr/nader_petitions&cid=694&ncid=2043

No worries. :hi:

[ElementaryPenguin]

24. NOTHING this cheating scumbags aren't willing to do!!

THAT'S what we can't ever lose sight of!

[ScreamingMeemie]

26. Well, it's certainly not going to make Bushco look good if it makes

it to the morning papers here. :hi:

[Literate Tar Heel]

32. oh, but this quote is priceless

from Greg McNeilly, some jerk-off flunkie from the Michigan Republican Party:

"Unlike the Democratic Party, where 'D' stands for disenfranchisement, we want voters to have choices," he said.

I presume he means as long as they're not African-Americans who live in Florida. Sometimes I can't decide whether to laugh or cry.

[ScreamingMeemie]

33. Ain't it though? Or, as long as their not the hundreds of voters right

here in Detroit who showed up at caucus sites only to find them moved, or closed...

[hippiegranny]

23. bush has his 35%

and that's it. they are the religiously insane and the kajillionaires. any poll who puts him within 10 points of kerry is corrupted somehow.

[ElementaryPenguin]

27. Right. And I'd wager even that 35 has morphed into 29 or 30!

:evilgrin:

[ibegurpard]

25. Relax people

It's one poll...and who even knows how accurate it is. We have to realize that it's VERY difficult to unseat an incumbent and with the war on "terra" George Bush has all the frightened rabbits eating out of his hand.
Our chances are very good...the ticket has benefitted Kerry TREMENDOUSLY. It's like night and day how much more relaxed and confident he comes across. Things are NOT going well for Bush but even so there will be people who will resolutely dig in their heels rather than open their eyes and see how bad this administration has been for this country. I suspect this poll included a lot of those type of people. Don't let this ruin the VERY REAL sense of optimism that you got from the past few days.

[ElementaryPenguin]

29. I'm not worried about the public - I'm worried about the electronic voting

Machines, the ruthless neocon repukes, and the fascist corporate press!! They are going to do their best to steal this thing - so that they can continue with this PNAC global empire bit - and destroying the American middle class, while bankrupting the federal government and destroying the environment (not to mention packing the courts)!

:mad:

[ibegurpard]

31. As long as you've done everything you can do

then worrying will do nothing but eat you up inside. That's not to minimize your fears but you still have to exist and it's virtually impossible to do so carrying around that level of stress.

[ronabop]

28. One poll, so what?

Fox always shows Bush leading in one way or another.

Here, look for the trends:
http://pollingreport.com/

-Bop

[BillZBubb]

30. I believe the poll is correct.

Allowing for the margin of error of course.

Face it, nearly a 50% of Americans are ignorant and very easily duped. The Repugs and the corporate media have been pushing how much "better" Iraq is getting, how much "better" the economy is getting, and how liberal Kerry is.

The stooges will buy it. That's why this will be a tight race.

DU'ers who think otherwise are giving their fellow Americans way too much credit.

[underpants]

34. (sniff sniff) I smell ROVE!

So Mr.Rove is quoted directly in an AP Poll story that defies logic and recent trends. As a "poll tracker" you have to believe the good with the bad. When was the last time you saw him quoted directly?

The conditions for a Bush victory are all there — a strong economy, an improving position in the global war on terror and a growing sense that there are sharp and clear differences in values between the two campaigns," said top Bush adviser Karl Rove.

He probably wouldn't throw his name in there unless he was sure what the result and all the touchstone phrases are used.

This paragraph preceeds the Rove quote. Taken directly out of his notebook with generalities and "The sun rose yet again today under PRESIDENT Bush's leadership" spin.

Bush has been buoyed by a stream of economic data pointing to an economic recovery, including a plunge in unemployment insurance applications reported Thursday by the Labor Department (news - web sites).

Now someone explain to me where these numbers came from and what in the hell that means.

Bush gained ground among suburban women, a key constituency that increased its backing for Bush from 41 percent in June to 52 percent.

His ratings on handling foreign policy and the war in Iraq, while low, remained steady or slightly improved. The poll was taken shortly after Iraqis gained limited control of their new government.