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Thu Jul-08-04 10:55 PM
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What if Bush/Cheney win or steal it in November??? |
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What could be more frightening than that?
Whether it's won, or stolen again, what do we do then?
Our country is barely recognizable as a democracy now. Another four years of these Huns will turn us into an entity that any dictator/autocrat in the history of this planet would have envied.
Damn, can anyone think of a more insane scenario than a second term with these cretins in power?
I ask this with a sense of dread. WHAT DO WE DO THEN???
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Thu Jul-08-04 10:56 PM
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Thu Jul-08-04 10:58 PM
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2. Recall when Nixon won in 68, then in 72 |
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I think the outcome of a Bush inauguration next January would be a natural spasm of the populace.
I wouldn't advocate it, I would simply expect it.
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Thu Jul-08-04 10:58 PM
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3. There will be peaceful protest at best or riots at worst... |
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Edited on Thu Jul-08-04 11:04 PM by samwisefoxburr
...and not just in America but all around the world.
And it will be many times larger than the protests on February 15, 2003.
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:28 PM
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:37 PM
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26. Uh, what else can we do? |
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Short of storming the White House and arresting them by force, we can't do anything else. Sorry to tell you that, but that's all we can do.
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:53 PM
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33. Sigh. For the moment, I'm forced to agree. |
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Edited on Fri Jul-09-04 12:07 AM by Cyrano
I don't have the answer as to what we do. Which might mean we have become a nation of sheep.
But, somehow, I don't think so and my answer to that is Baaa, humbug.
On a more serious note, people who have been raised in freedom will not long tolerate tyranny. However, they first have to recognize that tyranny for what it is. It's amazing and mind-numbing that the vast majority haven't yet grasped what's happening.
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Fri Jul-09-04 08:22 AM
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44. People will accept a lot of tyranny if you tell them that it is for... |
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...their own good and will keep them safe. To varying degrees, both parties are guilty of this.
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Thu Jul-08-04 10:59 PM
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4. If we think for a second it was stolen |
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we ABSOLUTELY do not accept it.
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:29 PM
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Thu Jul-08-04 10:59 PM
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5. In either case, start getting ready for the 2006 elections. n/t |
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:20 PM
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20. What makes you think there will be 2006 elections? |
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Fri Jul-09-04 08:20 AM
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43. There will be elections. Even Bush would not try and stop them... |
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...and the Democrats in both Houses will at some point grow a straight spine. Viagra?
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:02 PM
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6. I would hate to even contemplate this. |
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:02 PM
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7. We Will Have Interesting Times |
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Is about the only thing that comes to mind.
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:03 PM
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:07 PM
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9. Depends on who gets the house |
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If Dems get the house, you can say impeachment ;)
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:25 PM
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21. The Dems can't win the House. |
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DeLay has seen to that. Forget impeachment. The question still stands. What do we do? If we can win the senate, we can block them. If not,... then what?
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:07 PM
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10. I, for one, would welcome our new neocon overlords... |
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I'd like to remind them as a dutiful patriot, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their coal mining caves.
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:08 PM
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11. All hell will break loose for real |
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Right now all efforts are focused on simply voting them out. That's as it should be. However, if they prevail and especially if they honestly get about half the vote, the divisions in this country become explosive. It will be an earthquake. There will be nothing left to do but to try to stop them and they'll try to stop us and it's going to get very ugly. It's the least we can do.
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:09 PM
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Death and destruction, murder and mayhem - lol.
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:12 PM
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14. I don't think people realize.... |
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The biggest enemy you will ever face is from within...
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:10 PM
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There'll be a couple signs and a couple marchers downtown, but the People are asleep still.
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:13 PM
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16. And when they start waking up in Guantanamo? |
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At some point the rubes will start to catch on that the pea was never under the shell. What then?
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:39 PM
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28. When they wake up in Gmo... |
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they will be tortured and killed.
The end.
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:13 PM
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15. Bush/Cheney won't win |
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The Democratic base is very energized, voters are fed up (even in red states) and Bush's record of mismanagement and lies is beginning to catch up with him.
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:38 PM
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27. But what if they win or steal it? Then what??? |
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The real question here is what do the rational, sane, human beings on the face of this planet do to stop those whose only goal is power, profit and dominance?
The middle class is shrinking. Another four years and the term "middle class" will be an anachronism.
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Fri Jul-09-04 12:35 AM
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40. Cyrano, I disagree with the premise in your question |
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I predict rational people will be voting for Kerry/Edwards in large numbers.
Voters won't allow this election to be stolen, either. They are more vigilant to the possibility of irregularities. I suspect the election results are going to be closely scrutinized on a precinct by precint level.
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:13 PM
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17. My friend is going to move to Europe |
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maybe that's a good idea :shrug:
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:14 PM
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18. I predict that every hardware store in Merika will |
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be sold out of pitchforks and torches.
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:45 PM
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30. Don't ferget the tar 'n feathers! |
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Pick axes, creosote, railroad ties, and baseball bats too! (can you say Murkan Revolution 2005?)
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:14 PM
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19. They lost in 2000 and are less popular now...they would have to cheat. |
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:34 PM
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24. And if they do, and win, then what??? |
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:50 PM
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32. I was merely addressing the win vs. cheat scenario...they can't win legit. |
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Fri Jul-09-04 01:11 AM
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:35 PM
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25. WHAT DO WE DO? WE RISE UP LIKE NEVER BEFORE... |
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That would probably really wake up the sleeping giant, and you would see more and more scared stupid people coming over to our side. It often takes more than four years to wake the dead, but I believe that is exactly what would happen. The Bushies would push it too far, and the masses would rebel like crazy...I hope it does not come to that, but let's be prepared if it does.
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:41 PM
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29. can't say I agree with you |
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the absolute VAST majority of Americans would simple believe that the majority of their fellow citizens must have voted for him, the few that knew about any election fraud or vote tampering would have meetings and some would protest.
Most people would do NOTHING, Throughout history societies have shown that for people to rise up things need to get REALLY bad, and I don't mean bad for kids in Iraq or bad for women in Afghanistan but bad for them personally, they need to see their kids starving/jailed or killed to give a shit.
I wish it wasn't that way but if * steals (or less likely actually wins) another election the PNAC agenda gets pushed further forward, Americans find it even harder to makes ends meet and the rest of the world cowers and hopes that they wont be the object of the next war.
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Fri Jul-09-04 12:04 AM
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35. Damn , you just may be right |
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Most people will probably do nothing. It really might take us degenerating into third-world status before the majority of people "get it" and by then it will be too late.
Were this to happen, a thousand years from now, people (if they still exist) would probably wonder how we let ourselves fall into such an abyss of ignorance and darkness.
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Fri Jul-09-04 12:07 AM
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37. Amazingly enough, you will see this in your lifetime. |
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Nothing to do with politics, but about resource depletion. The problem is that politics can't fix it.
I think we need to make sure we have a man with a good heart in the big house when the news really comes in.
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:46 PM
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31. Shouldn't we plan for this now? |
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Where will we congregate. What will be the command structure of this "army". If we're going to wage civil war, we'd better be ready to win. The enemy would like nothing more than to wipe us off the Earth. Shit, we've reached that point!
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Thu Jul-08-04 11:58 PM
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34. It's better if it's stolen. Then the failure of our system is exposed once |
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more to the people, and we can organize around that. Same if he wins in the elctoral college, but not the popular vote. It will also make the progressives and anti-Bushies more militant. So all will not necessarily be lost. However, if they win fair and square (and with a majority vote), that truly is scary, because it will mean a majority of Americans have chosen fascism.
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Fri Jul-09-04 01:08 AM
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41. Bigbillhaywood, our system is not a failure-- Bush is! |
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As a liberal Democrat, I am optimistic that a fair election is the solution.
If the election had been fair in Florida in 2000, Al Gore would be in office now and the country would not be in this mess!
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Fri Jul-09-04 12:06 AM
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36. What do we do? Call France. n/t |
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Fri Jul-09-04 12:23 AM
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38. What would you suggest? An SOS to Texas??? |
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(Family and friends have often described my sense of humor as drier than the Sajara Desert. )
France came to our aid before. I would just hope an SOS to them wouldn't have then thinking "Fool me once, shame on you. But fool me can't get fooled agin' " (or words to that effect LOL)
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Fri Jul-09-04 12:30 AM
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39. The deficit will balloon to a gabazillion dollars. |
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There will be more rich and many,many,more poor. Many more people will die. America's good name will be dragged through the mud for another four years. There will be wars and rumors of wars.
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Fri Jul-09-04 08:23 AM
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45. They won't, either way. - n/t |
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