Another work F911 story....

[LeftHander]

A woman at work was looking over the new Time magazine issue with Micheal Moore on the cover. She handed me the cover and said take it if you want to. I pointed at the cover and asked "have you seen it?" She turned to a page showing a photograph of a soldier crying. She said "after reading the article and seeing this I am." She pointed at the soldier and said..."this could be my son, It makes me want to cry."

At about that same time another guy walked up and said "So are you crying for the people that Saddam put in a meat grinder too?"

Our mouths dropped open and I looked at him. He goes on, "Thats what people do they get upset at our soldiers but no one cares about the people Saddam murdered."

I asked him if he had seen the film yet while pointing to the cover. He said "Why would I want to see a bunch of lies?" I looked square at him and asked him "So where are those weapons we went to war for...?" He replied "oh they found them. The mustard gas shells." I laughed and said "those 50 some odd shells that couldn't even be fired and had rotten gas in them?"

He stammered a bit. And I went on to say "if you watch Fox news all the time you need to see this movie and decide for yourself what is true or not. Moore created this film specifically to move people. Don't say it is a bunch of lies without even seeing it. Make up your own mind. Sure I had a few issues with the film but they were minor."

I think the Fox news jab got him.

[trumad]

1. Remember...A DUer will crush a guy like that everytime..

A well informed Liberal is a Right wingers worst nightmare.

[Misunderestimator]

2. "Do you cry for the people Saddam killed" is a tiresome phrase...

As if the ones who say that actually cry for the Iraqis that were killed by Saddam anymore than they cry now for the Iraqis that are killed by Bush. I hope you convinced him to see it... when the DVD comes out... buy it and lend it to him.

[LeftHander]

3. Like most, I think he is a good guy (Not Saddam)

Who has just been misinformed.

It is going to be important to reach out to people one at a time and try to at least get them to read some articles or see F911....

I am sure many will watch the DVD at home when it comes out. Then they will sit ashamed and some may vote Bush any way just to convince themselves they were really right despite how they feel deep inside.

[underpants]

4. Make sure your co-worker sees this PROOF of Fox misinformation

I know, you have probably already seen this
http://www.alternet.org/story/16892
Posted October 3, 2003.

The more commercial television news you watch, the more wrong you are likely to be about key elements of the Iraq War and its aftermath, according to a major new study released in Washington this week.

The report, "Misperceptions, the Media and the Iraq War," also found that the more misperceptions held by the respondent, the more likely it was that s/he both supported the war and depended on commercial television for news about it.

For each of the three misperceptions, the study found enormous differences between the viewers of Fox, who held the most misperceptions, and NPR/PBS, who held the fewest by far. Eighty percent of Fox viewers were found to hold at least one misperception, compared to 23 percent of NPR/PBS consumers. All the other media fell in between.

CBS ranked right behind Fox with a 71 percent score, while CNN and NBC tied as the best-performing commercial broadcast audience at 55 percent. Forty-seven percent of print media readers held at least one misperception.

The actual Study (PDF)

http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/Media_10_02_03_Report.pdf

[fudge stripe cookays]

5. Better yet....

Host an "Outfoxed" party and invite him over to see the truth he's been missing....

I'm having one! You bet your sweet bippy!

http://www.moveon.org/news/fox.html

FSC

[mainer]

6. Rebut the WMD's claims with this site:

I take it he was referring to the Polish Army's discovery of the shells. Print this up and show it to him. It comes directly from the U.S. Government.

http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/news_release.asp?NewsRelease=20040705.txt

[JHB]

7. "So are you crying for the people that Saddam put in a meat grinder too?"

(in my little "if I'd been there" daydream):

"Yes, I did, and back when something could have been done about it.
Where were you, back in the 80's, when the Reagan people were sneering at the very idea that human rights violations should be a factor in our foreign relations? And after the 91 Gulf War, when Bush called for an uprising against Saddam and the Iraqis did, but Bush had our forces stand aside and let Saddamand his Republican Guard and helicoper gunships slaughter them? Did you join the "10%ers" and protest THEN?

Or did you only get upset about Saddam when it was convenient for the guys in power? When you were TOLD TO?

You want to lecture me about this, then you get a track record of being right about it whether it was the popular view or not.

Now go see the damn movie!"