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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:37 AM
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Plan To Bomb Gay Bars, 'Liberal' Churches Nets Prison Term
(Fort Lauderdale, Florida) A man charged with plotting to blow up gay bars, abortion clinics and "liberal" churches was sentenced Thursday to five years in prison.

Stephen John Jordi, described as a religious fundamentalist, was arrested last November after buying gasoline cans, flares, starter fluid and propane tanks with a government informant.

Jordi, a former Army Ranger also was charged with terrorism.

Police said that he had planned to bomb gay bars in the Fort Lauderdale area and was targeting abortion clinics and churches which he felt were soft on homosexuality.

http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/07/070804bomber.htm
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:40 AM
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1. I find it interesting that...
I read about plots to blow up gay bars, kill gays, blow up abortion clinics, etc. Yet, I never hear about plots by gays to blow up churches or cowboy bars.
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D-Notice Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:42 AM
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3. That's because
Of the gay mafia which supresses those sort of reports!
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:41 AM
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2. Bush is creating terrorist abroad
and he is creating our own "home grown" terrorists, too. Religious fundamentalists come in all religions. He is walking a fine line courting the fundies.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:53 AM
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7. I don't know why it took me so long
I could see how the corpo-fascists and the neocons could enter into a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" alliance -- but it took me a longer time to figure out how and what the corpo-fascists gain from religion -- because it seems that religion would suggest that you turn away from the soulless pursuit of the acquisition of material goods.

But they've masterminded it -- baited millions of people into a revised Christianity, which serves little purpose to transcendence or worship of Christ, but combines a narrative of nationalism, conformity and control.

The consumer impulse relies on "normality," -- which can only be helped by a largely in-step cultural electorate/demographic. Religion is a great tool, because it has all these absolutes at its disposal -- and you're also effectively able to demonize your own countrypeople -- particularly those who strive toward a more multicultural/egalitarian society.

I know that Marx figured this out a long time before I did. I guess I held out hope, to some extent, that Christians would have some kind of fucking spine, or be true to the teachings of Christ.

I think I was mostly too hopeful.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:02 AM
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16. That is why, in my opinion, he will
do anything to win. And I mean anything! If committing mayhem will do the job he will use it.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:42 AM
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4. This needs to be national news
The swingers and the plebs need to know what they're supporting when they support the GOP social re-education culture plan.

The sad part is that even though this guy wants to "blow people up," -- at least he's honest about it. Goppers want to strip people of their Constitutional Rights, and hide behind a bunch of lame ass constructs. The Republican Congress isn't any different from this guy.

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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:48 AM
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5. Lets See
if his name turns up on the FELON LIST, so he won't be able to VOTE!
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:48 AM
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6. ok let me get this straight
a fundamental muslim man plans on blowing something up and killing lots of people, he getd "detained indeffinately" a fundamental x-tian plans on bombing and killing people and he gets 5 years in minimum security, see a bit of racisim here?
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:54 AM
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8. yeah, that sounds like "terra" to me
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:57 AM
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10. if you gonna start charging terra-ists
charge them all, but, oops, wait, he only wanted to kill gays, wich no one in the administration thinks are people, so its ok
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SonofMass Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:03 AM
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17. In your example we do not know what the race of each person is
so perhaps racism is not the problem but religion.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:07 AM
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18. i know
what is the word for racisim, only with religion instead of color?
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botchan Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:07 AM
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20. good point
Do you think if he was Gay and planning to blow up Baptist churches the judge would have been so light?
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:12 AM
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21. the "Liburul" media
would have used him as propaghanda, painting every homosexual as a baptist church bombing pedophile (they allready use that alot) Terra-ist and they would definately havesent him to gitmo
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:56 AM
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9. What? No terra alert on this one?
What's the matter? Skin not dark enough?

Our government is so pathetic! Terra is terra!
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:58 AM
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11. WWJB?
Gays and towelheads of course!
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:59 AM
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12. But, christianity is a peaceful religion....this can't be true!
:shrug:
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:02 AM
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15. oh please stop with the slams on christianity
Edited on Fri Jul-09-04 09:02 AM by Cheswick
you banal comments add nothing to the disussion. Obviously the guy is going off the deep end. That has nothing to do with christianity. Believe it or not there are many of us here on the same side as you.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:07 AM
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19. It was a tongue in cheek reply to those who slam Islam.
Edited on Fri Jul-09-04 09:17 AM by liberal_veteran
IF you can't take a joke, you need to grow up. Talk about being thin-skinned, jeez!


On Edit: This isn't the first person who has target gays, gay bars, and women's clinics in the name of Christianity either.

Further edit: As I recall a number of denominations were cheering on Bush unleashing "shock and awe" on Iraq.

Point being there are bad apples in every religion and fundamentalism spurs people to acts like this.
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botchan Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:28 AM
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22. continues
continuing on the other reply:

Christianity deserves some ridicule. I understand that you may dislike the constant attack, but the radical Christians are getting more press and are becoming far more active than the "true Christian".

A little sarcastic introspective isn't bad and I don't believe that any religious slander should be banned. Christians, like Islamics need to weed out the radicals within their faiths.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:00 AM
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13. I have friends in Ft Lauderdale
who attend those gay bars, work in those clinics and attend those churches (and I know exactly the ones he is talking about).
Thank God someone caught this freak or I might be attending funerals.
Thanks for posting this.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:01 AM
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14. They should start sending THESE guys to Gitmo....
...and watch how fast the conservatives change their minds about defending our little concentration camp in Cuba.
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 06:09 PM
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23. kick
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