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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:28 AM
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Liberal Presidents in America...
Edited on Fri Jul-09-04 09:40 AM by rpannier
Let's just run through some of the liberal presidencies in our history:
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Theodore Roosevelt
Ulysses Grant
Abraham Lincoln
Andrew Jackson
James Madison
James Monroe
Thomas Jefferson
Not a bad group.

Who do the pukes have to:
Reagan?
Hoover?
Coolidge?
Taft?

That's a Hell of a list for them. Or, also known as a list of people in Hell.

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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:33 AM
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1. Some more
I'd add Truman, JFK and LBJ to the list for the social programs they worked hard to usher in.

Jimmy Carter for pushing alternative energy and environmental causes.

And Clinton, though he isn't a classic liberal, for helping to make liberal causes more palatable to the masses that would normally brush it aside.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:48 AM
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6. I agree about LBJ
Edited on Fri Jul-09-04 09:49 AM by calico1
He pushed through a lot of the civil rights laws, medicare and other social programs. He was a big believer in big government--but on social programs. Too bad he screwed up so bad in Vietnam. Otherwise I think he would be remembered as a great one.

Edit for spelling.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:38 AM
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2. Nixon was a Liberal

Nixon Reconsidered
Dialogues
This article is adapted from his forthcoming book, The Age of Reagan: A Chronicle of the Closing Decades of the American Century.
August 1999

by: Steven Hayward


http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/dialogue/hayward.html



<snip>
any other president who compiled Nixon’s domestic and foreign record would be regarded as standing firmly in the liberal progressive tradition. Johnson has gone down in the history books as the big spender for social welfare programs, yet federal spending grew faster during Nixon’s tenure than during Johnson’s. It was under Nixon that social spending came to exceed defense spending for the first time. Social spending soared from $55 billion in 1970 (Nixon’s first budget) to $132 billion in 1975, from 28 percent of the federal budget when LBJ left office to 40 percent of the budget by the time Nixon left in 1974. While Nixon would criticize and attempt to reform welfare, he nonetheless approved massive increases in funding for other Great Society programs such as the Model Cities program and the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Some of the changes in spending policies that Nixon supported, such as automatic cost-of-living increases for Social Security recipients and other entitlement programs, contributed to runaway spending trends in successive decades. Federal spending for the arts, which went mostly to cultural elites who hated Nixon, quadrupled. Economist Herbert Stein, who served on Nixon’s Council of Economic Advisers, summed up this dubious record: "The administration that was against expanding the budget expanded it greatly; the administration that was determined to fight inflation ended by having a large amount of it."

The explosion in spending was matched by an equally dramatic explosion in federal regulation-from an administration that regarded itself as pro-business. The number of pages in the Federal Register (the roster of federal rules and regulations) grew only 19 percent under Johnson, but a staggering 121 percent under Nixon. In civil rights, Nixon expanded the regime of "affirmative action" racial quotas and set-asides far beyond what Johnson had done. In other words, Nixon consolidated the administrative state of the Great Society in much the same way that President Eisenhower (for whom Nixon served as Vice President) consolidated the New Deal. Ronald Reagan would run and govern as much against the legacy of Nixon as he would the legacy of the Great Society, and it was a number of Nixon’s administrative creations that would cause Reagan the most difficulty during his White House years. Yet at the same time Nixon deserves the credit for assembling the new political coalition of working class and ethnic voters who would later become known as “Reagan Democrats.” Nixon was the first Republican to win a majority of working class, Catholic, and labor union voters, as well as voters with only a grade school education. In the political sense Nixon played Moses to Reagan’s Joshua. This is Nixon’s greatest paradox.

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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:39 AM
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3. I'll give it to you since you have facts
Nixon's name is removed.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:40 AM
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4. Andrew Jackson would be considered a criminal today
He did a lot to institutionalize the Native American Holocaust.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:44 AM
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5. Today...Yes
but, Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, Grant was a drunk, etc. Jackson did a lot to open the American political process to more people. He was more receptive to the disenfranchised voter. He changed much of American politics for the good.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 10:06 AM
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7. Bah, it's been downhill ever since JQ Adams.......
I agreee, lots of our Presidents have done unsavory things.
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