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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 10:50 AM
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Dems/GOPers agree: won't look into WH abuse of Iraq prewar intelligence

Senate Iraq Report Said to Skirt White House Use of Intelligence
By DOUGLAS JEHL

Published: July 8, 2004

WASHINGTON, July 7 - A bipartisan Senate report to be issued Friday that is highly critical of prewar intelligence on Iraq will sidestep the question of how the Bush administration used that information to make the case for war, Congressional officials said Wednesday.

But Democrats are maneuvering to raise the issue in separate statements. Under a deal reached this year between Republicans and Democrats, the Bush administration's role will not be addressed until the Senate Intelligence Committee completes a further stage of its inquiry, but probably not until after the November election. As a result, said the officials, both Democratic and Republican, the committee's initial, unanimous report will focus solely on misjudgments by intelligence agencies, not the White House, in the assessments about Iraq, illicit weapons and Al Qaeda that the administration used as a rationale for the war.

The effect may be to provide an opening for President Bush and his allies to deflect responsibility for what now appear to be exaggerated prewar assessments about the threat posed by Iraq, by portraying them as the fault of the Central Intelligence Agency and its departing chief, George J. Tenet, rather than Mr. Bush and his top aides.

Still, Democrats will try to focus attention on the issue by releasing as many as a half-dozen "additional views" to supplement the bipartisan report. "How the administration used the intelligence was very troubling," Senator Ron Wyden, Democrat of Oregon, said in an interview this week. "They took a flawed set of intelligence reports and converted it into a rationale for going to war." --- http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/08/politics/08inte.html

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Senate Delays Issuing Iraq Report on White House Role
The New York Times is reporting a new Senate report on Iraq will be highly critical of the CIA's prewar intelligence but will sidestep the question of how the Bush administration used the information to make the case for war. Democrats and Republicans reached a deal that it would likely wait until after the November elections to address the Bush's administrations role. The Times reports this may help President Bush and his allies to blame the CIA for mistakes made. The Senate report will be released Friday morning, less than 24 hours after CIA holds a farewell tribute to George Tenet who is resigning. Tenet's top deputy John McLaughlin will officially take over the agency on an interim basis beginning Sunday. --- http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/08/1443239
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 10:51 AM
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1. Everyone's Fired.
If you won't do the right thing, we'll keep replacing you until we find people who will.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 10:53 AM
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2. These 'separate statements' from the Dems will never reach...
Edited on Fri Jul-09-04 10:56 AM by Q
...the eyes and ears of the general public. Democrats MUST DO MORE to publicize the fact that BUSH* took this country to war based on deceit, outright lies and exaggerations. Americans and Iraqis are dying for a lie. Why are so many willing to overlook this treason?

- Can anyone help explain the Democratic reasoning for waiting to release any incriminating evidence against Bush until AFTER the election? Shouldn't the People know that their 'president' lied this country into war? Isn't that something they should know BEFORE they vote in November?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 10:56 AM
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3. No. Never seen. German Social Democrats of 1933
Go ahead, make deals with MONSTERS who don't even consider you human in their hearts.

It worked so well last time that was tried in 1933.


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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:15 AM
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7. Don't count on the politicians!
If you want to publicize the fact that BUSH* took this country to war based on deceit, outright lies and exaggerations, please join "The Whispering Campaign" (link below.)

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 10:59 AM
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4. We need to let the Dems know
that their jobs are on the line. A list of those that don't want to raise the issue needs to be made. We then need to let them know they no longer have our support. It's time for some hardball.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:01 AM
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5. But their jobs AREN'T on the line...
...because nearly everyone on the left will vote Democratic until Dems get the WH and both houses. This could take years or decades. Meanwhile...both parties are hiding the treason of the Bush* White House. Why? Political expediency.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:57 AM
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13. I'm willing
to put their jobs on the line or at least make them think so. It's now or never to defend the integrity of the constitution and government institutions.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:15 AM
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6. Nothing about Cheney's numerous - and unprecedented - visits to Langley
to personally "supervise" the development of CIA WMD intel before the war.

And Powell's visits to Langley to prep for his UN Liefest????

Do they really think people will forget this????

(well maybe FAUX and the RNC.....)
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:20 AM
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8. Most people don't even KNOW this
and if they do, they don't understand the implications. Were they supposed to have learned about civics or political history in school? Oops.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:37 AM
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9. And the media will report it once and then drop it...
...and it will go down the memory hole with all the rest of the Bushie scandals.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:43 AM
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10. Someone tell me what the Dems are supposed to do on a....
...on a GOP-controlled commission.

Here are the facts...the GOP controls what goes into the report, and how it will be delivered. Period. They even control the language used such as indicating that the GOPers and the Dems agree on certain issues even when the Dems clearly do NOT agree.

Why is everyone here so eager to beat up on people that have NO control of what's being done in Congress?? The GOP has the votes, and they almost always vote en masse.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:51 AM
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11. why?
Perhaps because the dems go meekly into the night without even a peep. Maybe because it gives traction to the dems=repub meme?
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:54 PM
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15. But the minority ALWAYS has the option of publishing a...
...'minority report' and taking the coverup to the media. I'm getting sick and tired of democrats defending the Bush* apologists and enablers. We're talking about criminal activility here...obstruction of justice at best and treason at worse. Democrats are no better than Republicans when they sit back and ALLOW these things to happen without a fight or public protest.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:53 AM
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12. your headline is a fucking lie
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:51 PM
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14. It's not a lie...and YOU know it...
...the Dems and Republicans came to an AGREEMENT that Bush's* abuse of prewar intelligence won't be considered in any official report until AFTER November...if at all.

- In other words...Dems and GOPers alike are going to allow Bush* to blame the CIA instead of taking ANY of the blame. The Dems on the committee didn't have to AGREE to help coverup the Bush* administration's corruption. At the very least they could have refused to cooperate and put on the record that the Republicans were attempting to obstruct justice.

- Check your facts before calling someone a liar. Whether you agree or not with their decision...the fact is that Democrats participated with Republicans in an effort to keep Bush* off the hot seat about Iraq right before the election.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:59 PM
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16. I'm shocked! Shocked I say!
not...

Nader isn't just braying because he likes the sound of his own voice. He may be an egotistical idiot but he does have valid points. Many, actually.
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