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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 03:32 PM
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BBV - ES&S Bugs Must Be Publicized
Many serious bugs in ES&S election software are finally being revealed, in spite of ES&S' claims that their software is reliable. The latest bugs to surface, just today, affect the data from optical scan machines as well as from iVotronic paperless voting machines. Bugs revealed so far include:

1) March, 2004. Indiana discovers that ES&S has installed uncertified software on the iVotronics in four counties. The reason? The certified version doesn't tabulate the votes correctly.
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1706282

2) May, 2004. Miami-Dade, Florida. Memos written nearly a year before show that there are serious bugs in ES&S software, and they are probably present in all ES&S counties. They cause the audit log data to be scrambled and fail to account for ballots cast. This is the version ES&S installed in Indiana — knowing full well about the audit bugs that had not yet been publicized.
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1084316008117
For a simple description of how these bugs work, see http://www.votersunite.org/info/auditbug.asp .

3) July 9, 2004. More and more bugs in the ES&S election management software are revealed in memos written by Miami-Dade election officials to ES&S over a month ago. The central tabulation machines don't have the capacity to handle all the audit data, they have problems when optical scan information is merged, and they can't reliably accept data passed over the phone lines. ES&S response? Fix the problems yourself by changing your procedures.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/9111841.htm

If your county uses ES&S voting equipment, make sure the county officials are aware of this information. How many more bugs are exposed in unpublicized memos to ES&S or still hidden in the software? How many bugs are hidden in the other vendors' software?

Paper ballots are clearly more important than ever.

Thanks!!
~ the VotersUnite team
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 04:10 PM
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1. Thanks
Edited on Fri Jul-09-04 04:12 PM by sybylla
I just sent it to a friend of mine who works in the county clerks office where the votes are tabulated. They use ES&S optical scan equipment. I knew there were problems with it but I haven't had a chance to go looking for them myself.

I appreciate your efforts. You have saved me some time. :toast:
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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:54 PM
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2. Kick n/t
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:33 AM
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3. Very Important!
ES&S has been flying under the radar.

And optical scan is not entirely safe, either.

Paper in 2004 and LOTS of auditing!

Kick!
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Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 10:22 AM
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4. Great point! Kick for auditing increases on ALL Optical Scan counties.
ES&S is a big Optical Scan player in my state btw. This thread has been bookmarked. We have a new mayor, and election commissioner who will get copies of this shortly.

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 10:26 AM
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5. this ins't democracy..this is criminal that citizan need to protect agains
comuter voting theft...90% of americans will have no clue...WTF
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:04 PM
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6. Sunday bump
good job big guy
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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 01:54 PM
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7. There is a lot more information on VotersUnite about this
We have a dynamite graphic that explains the audit bug to a tee and
it dumbs down the explanation so people like me can understand it.

There is also a lot more information on this. Please, let people know that these problems are on EVERY machine that ES&S has put out that has Unity software on it. That's DREs and Optical Scan.

I have talked to reporters in Florida and Indiana and will be talking to Texas and others next week. The word must be spread. ES&S says they are going to tell everyone. I don't believe them.

www.votersunite.org
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