Is anyone believing this BS about bad intel?

[Must_B_Free]

What are the freepers saying? Are they opening wide to swallow this steaming hot scoop?

And what about "the dog ate my service record?" Do these people realize what fools they are or are they just happy to have the lie there to comfort them.

It noone paying attention because its summer? I can't belive that that many people are stupid enough to buy and eat this crap sandwich and down it with a cup of the blood of 1000 service people.

Oh wait - was that something about Michael Jackson? Oh yeah, I guess 1000 dead for a lie is pretty unimportant. I guess they would have died eventually anyway...

[madinmaryland]

1. Its total horse crap.

Either our CIA is totally incompetent or?? Is the CIA a bunch of keystone kops?

Tenet just wanted to tell * what he wanted to hear.


What about that latest OJ/Michael Jackson/Scott Peterson update?


:wtf:

[Warpy]

10. Agreed, everything had to go through Tenet

and Tenet knew he had to tell the PNAC bunch and the rabid Zionists what they wanted to hear.

Ritter and Blix had their stories out there. The insanity is that Congress really believed they were getting superior intelligence from the CIA boss who wanted nothing more than to keep his job.

Perhaps next time they won't be so gullible.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

2. I am.

It sounds pretty credible to me. Its also confirmed by some passages in The Price of Loyalty, and some remarks by Richard Clarke.

So, yes, I can believe it.

sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

[librechik]

7. remember it's only half the story. The White House report won't arrive

until after the election.

Convenient, eh?

And what kind of report is it that leaves out the OSP? (as has every media account so far)

Also (by many accounts) the report that is left has been heavily twisted and edited by the Republicans in the majority on the committe. IMO NOT credible if it leaves out more than it puts in.

You are being duped if you believe this--all faith, no facts.

[Selwynn]

8. Bullshit.

What is confirmed in the Price of Loyalty and remarks from Richard Clarke is that the administration was absolutely committed to finding a way to go to war with Iraq before it had any "intelligence" of anything. And it then set to putting massive pressure on its resources to "make a connection" between Iraq and 911. When Clarke would come back and say there is no connection, he would be told "wrong answer" and sent back to do it again.

Are you telling me you think that the Adminstration was taking this fanatical high pressure attitude with its own officials and then not putting any kind of pressure on the intelligence community? You expect me to except, in flat out contradiction to the testimony of Richard Clarke, the statements of Oneil and other white house officials, that the Bush administation was just sitting around minding its own business and then all of the sudden the big bad evil intelligence community came along to present a bogus case for war that the administration then decided to swallow? What would be the motivation? Who would benefit? Why would the intelligence community want to do somethign so totally destabalizing to many of its ongoing operations in the middle east? There would be nothing to gain in it?

I might be more willing to at least consider that the administration was innocently duped and had no part in manufaturing, exaggerating, and misrepresenting intelligence if there wasn't such staggering overwhelming evidence that this is untrue. All one needs to do is just go back and look at nearly every speech and interview given by Rice, Cheney, Rumsefeld, Bush and Powell leading up to war to see that they were making crap up almost every which way they turned, and completely twisting intelligence.

I believe it takes a much larger leap of faith to believe that the intelligence was not "politicized" and in fact the push for a case to be made for war with Iraq was not begun in the White House even prior to september 11th than it does to believe it - there's just to much verifiable credible evidence in the form of material witnesses and publically accessble documentation to not believe it.

[Susang]

Read the whole story

Levin said they're going after the Bush administration next. Remember, this is only half the report. The blame isn't stopping with the CIA.

[gtar100]

5. After the election, of course.

[amber dog democrat]

3. Not buying ANY of it.

Obviously some kind of lame excuse is called for.

[Steven_S]

4. I believe nothing..

Or almost nothing, to be honest.

CIA = fair/good intel.

OSP = bad intel (what they used)

rather simple, really.

[Malva Zebrina]

6. It does not matter--if no one challenges it and no one presents something

different, it will be the accepted excuse for invading IraQ

and that is truly very very sad.

Our country's values have been compromised

and it is on both side that it has been so.

Bush will get away with murder and war crimes because he and his minions have now spun the invasion to excuse his stupidity, because actually it was the stupidity of the CIA and not his stupidity at all.

And the CIA, is it bought and paid for also? It has nothing to say about this? It concedes by it's silence that indeed, it was responsible for the deaths of 3000 people in the WTC on 9-=11?

Yup--it was all the fault of the CIA--and now, so now, what do we do?

hurumpf


Well, we do not know what to do, even now.

What a stupid nation, eh?

It seems few know what to make of it. WE have all been dumbed down in this short period to the point where NO ONE can think rationally any longer.

Yup , we are all stupid and the CIA is even more stupid than we.

The CIA is responsible for all those deaths because they were inept and they did not tell Bush what to do in plain and simple language. He cannot understand complicated language and they should have known that.

It was simply intuition that told millions around the world that something was very wrong in going into Iraq too. That was really not reasonable and there was little evidence to support the "fringe" people who tried to tell us of the dangers and the corruption.

Yup--the fringe people got it right, the Pentagon and Bush did not get it right, but now, well now it is the fault of the CIA.

Uh huh


Believe that? If so, I have a bridge to sell you.

We must simply prosecute the CIA or sue the CIA for all of it's incopetent advice. It is, is it not, incredible that the richest country in the world, the most powerful country inthe world, is possessed of a kindergarten intelligence agency that allowed the attack by airplanes on the
WTC with virutally NO ONE available to counteract that attack.

I mean really. We are to beleive that Bush did nothing because, well because the CIA did nothing.

Makes sense, eh?

[JackDragna]

9. The CIA jumped to Bush's command..

..the CIA might have trumped some things up, but the Bush administration still lied through its teeth. It sure as hell wasn't the CIA that set up the Office of Special Plans, a special Pentagon department designed to spin every possible bad thing about Iraq in a way that would convince the world that war was justified. The CIA is being made into a scapegoat.

[Bush was AWOL]

11. I post on another board that is full of right wingers with

their latest talking points and their approach when I brought this issue up today--which they avoided--was to throw out the monday morning quarterback, it's not Bush's fault type of deal, but clearly they wanted to avoid talking about it. So, I think the more it is talked about the better if they want to avoid it.