I'd like to nominate Howard Dean for head of the DNC.....

[Joe the Revelator]

I use to think this was a dumb idea, but my god we need this man in that position.

[Guaranteed]

1. Second that.

The position should be his.

[lanparty]

2. Not yet ...

I think Howard is opposed to the DLC group. Howard is basically forming his own political party with "Democracy for America". Hopefully, he will force the DLC out of power and return the party to the "old Democrats".

[mdmc]

26. now?

DFA is ready!

[dae]

3. I doubt if he would want to dive in with that group but it what be

just what the Doctor ordered to get the party back in order.

[Guaranteed]

4. If the DNC wants any kind of support from

about 25% of their voters, they'll give Dean the position.

Dean is THE leader of the Democratic base.

[Raiden]

5. Great Idea!

And if we can't get Dean, I say give the position to James Carville :)

[mzmolly]

6. May I ask why the change of heart? I agree but am curious about your

epiphany? Thanks :)

[Joe the Revelator]

9. The Dean/Nadar Debate..

opened my eyes. I never disliked Dean, i just didn't think he should be the public face of the party. My mind has been changed.

[mzmolly]

18. Glad to hear it. Many people are seeing Dean for who he is now.

Thanks for the post. :)

[K-W]

7. Let's see him unite the far left first.

If he can displace nader as the leader of the far left.

[AlCzervik]

8. i'd love to see him head the dnc and abolish the dlc

[mzmolly]

17. Me too! I can't think of a better way for Dean to make an impact.

I'd love to see From eliminated from relevance of any sort. :evilgrin:

[Guaranteed]

20. I'm praying.

:)

[mzmolly]

21. I'll join you in prayer my friend.

:hi:

[Guaranteed]

10. Here's the other thing about the Dean/Nader debate...

It seems to me that Dean is the only person I've seen who can take Nader one-on-one in a debate. Have you ever seen Nader on Crossfire, or debating anyone other than Dean, for that matter? He DESTROYS them, every single time. Totally runs over them, leaves them speechless, which is easy to do when you're coming from a principled position (which Nader typically does, although he's not always right).

This debate with Dean was different. Nader KNEW that he was going up against somebody with integrity, that he wasn't going to be running over anybody simply because of their spinelessness. You could see it in his body language: normally, Nader's has his head way up, looking at his opponents straight in the eye. Then he really starts building up some steam and talking really loudly, basically just going on a tirade, to the point where his opponent doesn't know how to respond.

He was nowhere near this with Dean. Nader had his head down much of the time, looking at the podium. He virtually never raised his voice. And, at times, I could swear that the guy looked scared.

I think Dean has Nader's number, and Nader knows it.

[K-W]

12. Winning a debate on crossfire isnt exactly difficult

Nader is usually debating a right wing idiot on cable news. I think there are plenty of liberals who could hold there own or even toast him in a debate.

[Guaranteed]

14. Right....I think my point is that

you have to be arguing from a principled position in the first place, and then you can take him.

[K-W]

19. Agreed it is so damn refreshing to see two people like that debate

TV rarely lets us see two people debate without one of them being a dogmatic conservative

[mzmolly]

16. I fully agree with your analysis. Nader looked intimidated at times

and his demeanor nervous. I've never seen him handle himself in such a manner before.

[erpowers]

11. You're Right

We need a strong leader who stands up for Democratic values. We need someone who is willing to fight the Republicans. Our current leadership is just not doing the job.

[Zynx]

13. Plus Dean doesn't have to win an election for that

Liberal or not, he was being portrayed as left of Marx by the Repugs. Just plug him in there, give the party some "ooomf" and let him spit venom on TV right back at Ed Gillespe (spelled name wrong, don't care, man should be put in Gitmo.)

[2Design]

15. I like both Gore and Dean in the outskirts so they can be them

selves and help boost the base that is progressive ...the party is still too far right for me or them.....they are doing a good job working the programs they are initiating on their own...and they are raising awareness and the base of progressive democrats at ALL levels of government.....

the press would try to 'kill' both of them as they have in the past if they get to out in the public eye.....they really are creating a great grass roots across the board.....and that is what we need for the long haul....

[Guaranteed]

22. Can't "kill" someone that ain't up for election, though.

DNC chair would be perfect. He'd be totally free of the polls, and my guess is that he'd start pulling them our way.

You really have to be free of those things before you can start changing them.

[2Design]

24. still too much of a target.....best he works under the radar...a little

he is doing a terrific job now....we are the ones who notice not the general public...this is how RW took over schools, city councils, senate and other parts of government and Dean is helping to bring that back to our side...

[ibegurpard]

23. That's where I think he would be most effective.

Stuck in some cabinet position, like some people have suggested, would be a huge waste.

[kaiso]

25. Yes... He's the only man for the job!

[mdmc]

27. maybe Gore can head up the DLC

and I can stop my hatin. I really don't like the dlc, but I'm glad that they are not the rlc.

[Pachamama]

28. I'd happily replace Terry Mcauliffe w/ the Doctor...Great Idea...2nd that

vote with my vote....

:kick:

Bet he would out fundraise Terry's record!