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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:06 PM
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We win one in Fla.
I haven't seen a thread on this yet.
Florida has decided to scrap its felon list. Looks like this one time some media scrutiny worked.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040710/ap_on_re_us/felons_voting_hispanics_1
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:07 PM
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1. That's is great news. (But I can only wonder...what's up their sleeves
next?)
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:09 PM
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4. The Diebold machines (no paper trail) are what's up their sleeves.
Edited on Sat Jul-10-04 01:11 PM by Cyrano
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:09 PM
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2. See what a "real" press could do? A country without it (like ours has
been for too long) cannot survive as a democratic institution.

Did you listen to Sibel Edmonds? The "liberal" press has signed agreement with Ashcroft not to mention her or her case in order not to lose access to the DoJ.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:15 PM
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6. Fuck That
If I were the press I'd tell Ashcroft to take a flying leap and to take his fucking Department of Justice access with him. I'd even tell him where he could shove his DoJ access. Who honestly gives a shit about DoJ access?

Are they honestly saying that they're willing to turn a blind eye to what could be one of the biggest stories of the decade just so that the Department of Justice and John "Get the Eagle Sore" Ashcroft can continue to feed them talking points?

Fuck them all.

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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:09 PM
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3. Let's see what they replace it with
I can't beleive the Jeb-usits are going to let such a nifty little weapon fall out of their arsenal with a backup.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:22 PM
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7. The issue was starting to draw too much attention
better to give it up and let everyone forget about it. That way in Nov. when everything falls apart again because of the machines, it won't matter anyway.


We must demand that all elections provide paper ballots that can be marked with a pen. That way even if the machines break down, you can still vote.


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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:11 PM
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5. Well, I'm cautiously excited!
On the surface, this is a HUGE victory for voters' rights!
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:37 PM
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8. Interesting how quickly they scrapped it
when they found out Hispanics were being dropped...

"The flaw in a state that President Bush won by a margin of just 537 votes could have been significant — Hispanics in Florida tend to vote Republican."
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:53 PM
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10. No, most Hispanics vote for Democrats
The older generation of Cubans vote Repug.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 02:05 PM
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11. no..
it's the opposite.

They dropped it because NOT ENOUGH Hispanics were on it! -

"Nevertheless, Supervisors of Elections are required to uphold their constitutional obligation" and will find other ways to ensure felons are removed from the rolls, Hood said in a statement.


The decision was made after it was reported that the list contained few people identified as Hispanic; of the nearly 48,000 people on the list created by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, only 61 were classified as Hispanics.

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Spangle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:47 PM
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9. Once released publicly, it was useless
The media was doing the investigation, looking deeply for every story they can. How many do you think they would have found? Lots of people were suprised and mad to find their name on that list.

They had the local sup. of elections in a hard place. THIS was the "help" they were getting. And would have been held liable if they used it.

Notice that this "error" wasn't found until after the media got ahold of the list.... hmmmmmmm

Every little story they were looking for. And people on that list was being contacted. LOTS of questions were being asked. As an attempt to keep people from voting, the list became useless. Smarter to get rid of it on their own and acting like they were doing the "nice" thing.
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