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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:43 PM
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Here's my idea on the "deteriorated microfilm".....

....that Bush's records were supposedly on. We need to see microfilm from the same batch that Bush's records came from. Film that was of the same type and stored in the same place Bush's was. I don't believe microfilm can deteriorate that fast. If this is truly a problem, they should be able to produce other examples of this film.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:49 PM
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1. This particular microfilm
deteriorates very rapidly when brought into close contact with an open flame. I'm not sayin' thats what happened, I'm just sayin'.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:54 PM
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2.  I would still demand to see other film...

...regardless. Common sense dictates that.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 02:01 PM
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5. I totally agree
I hope someone can use the FOIA to secure samples of the film.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:57 PM
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4. I also understand it deteriorates quite rapidly...
... when placed into the Fawn Hall Memorial Shredder.
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War Pigs Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:57 PM
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3. How about : Dan Bartlett? Isn't he the turd sent to check out chimp's
records back in the "mayor of Tardsville is running for guvurnur" days? It was him, or another of the bush family lackeys.:evilfrown:
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 02:05 PM
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6. Information on microfilm deterioration
Seems like it would be possible to find out what type of microfilm the records were stored on. With proper storage it should last at least 100 years.

http://www.archives.nysed.gov/altformats/accessible/pub15/ns_mgr_pub15_accessible.html
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 02:10 PM
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7. I put in a request for my father's military records three years ago...
He was in Chu-Lai south of Danang in Vietnam (HighCorp) for 15 months and then returned to California to finish off his second year. I was trying to get his records for the time he was back in California (For the VA Hospital system) and was told that those records had accidentally been destroyed.

They had complete records for his service in Vietnam, almost by the week, but nothing for the stateside stuff.

From what I understand, the domestic military records system was a MESS back then.
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cosmicaug Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 02:23 PM
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8. Time travel paradoxes.
From http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5127-2004Jun25.html
The AP Lawsuit on Bush's Service

Here's a copy of the lawsuit filed by the Associated Press on Tuesday seeking access to microfilm of all of Bush's military service records.

From the argument: "A significant controversy has arisen in the ongoing campaign over the President's military service during the Vietnam War, and specifically whether he performed his required days of service during a period between May 1972 and May 1973. Allegations have been made that the military personnel file for George W. Bush released to the press earlier this year is not complete. The public has an intense and legitimate interest in knowing the validity of these claims, which may well be answered by reviewing the microfilm copy of the personnel file in the Texas archives."

Associated Press Assistant General Counsel Dave Tomlin told me yesterday that AP reporters began trying to get the documents back in February, but hit roadblock after roadblock.

Tomlin said the AP has been informed that the microfilm in question does indeed exist. Tomlin said that because paper records can vanish and be tampered with, the microfilm "would erase any questions."
So apparently the records which were destroyed years ago existed as of June of this year when that article was written.

Kind of makes one wonder. Time travel is so confusing.
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