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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:20 PM
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Bagged & Tagged by Karen Kwiatkowski
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:23 PM
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1. that woman is a true patriot
Edited on Sat Jul-10-04 07:24 PM by AZDemDist6
and deserves a medal for the truth
i emailed her a thanks
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:26 PM
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9. absolutely.
I adore Lt Col Kwiatkowski. Thank you for this link, midwayer!

One day, we'll look back at these days, and be so thankful for the ones who spoke out. There are many of them, and that's what keeps my spirits up as we go through the ebb and tide of election season.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 09:52 PM
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15. I took your cue
and emailed her also. Got a very nice reply btw!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:25 PM
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2. Bravo!!
now we're talkin'

everybody should read this one :thumbsup:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:27 PM
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3. more..
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:38 PM
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4. Thanks! n/t
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:42 PM
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5. Bagged and Tagged
is probably the most important commentary on the Senate Intelligence report available to the American people right now. I will be passing this one far and wide. Much thanks!!
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:59 PM
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6. Wasn't sure when I ran across it
exactly how recently it was written, although I knew it was written in the last day or so, as that is when I last looked at the site

Karen is powerful ammo for sure
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 06:27 AM
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18. The Lie Factory (link fixed)
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/01/12_405.html



Only weeks after 9/11, the Bush administration set up a secret Pentagon unit to create the case for invading Iraq. Here is the inside story of how they pushed disinformation and bogus intelligence and led the nation to war.

By Robert Dreyfuss and Jason Vest
January/February 2004 Issue of Mother Jones

It's a crisp fall day in western Virginia, a hundred miles from Washington, D.C., and a breeze is rustling the red and gold leaves of the Shenandoah hills. On the weather-beaten wood porch of a ramshackle 90-year-old farmhouse, at the end of a winding dirt-and-gravel road, Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski is perched on a plastic chair, wearing shorts, a purple sweatshirt, and muddy sneakers. Two scrawny dogs and a lone cat are on the prowl, and the air is filled with swarms of ladybugs.

So far, she says, no investigators have come knocking. Not from the Central Intelligence Agency, which conducted an internal inquiry into intelligence on Iraq, not from the congressional intelligence committees, not from the president's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board. All of those bodies are ostensibly looking into the Bush administration's prewar Iraq intelligence, amid charges that the White House and the Pentagon exaggerated, distorted, or just plain lied about Iraq's links to Al Qaeda terrorists and its possession of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons. In her hands, Kwiatkowski holds several pieces of the puzzle. Yet she, along with a score of other career officers recently retired or shuffled off to other jobs, has not been approached by anyone.

Kwiatkowski, 43, a now-retired Air Force officer who served in the Pentagon's Near East and South Asia (NESA) unit in the year before the invasion of Iraq, observed how the Pentagon's Iraq war-planning unit manufactured scare stories about Iraq's weapons and ties to terrorists. "It wasn't intelligence‚ -- it was propaganda," she says. "They'd take a little bit of intelligence, cherry-pick it, make it sound much more exciting, usually by taking it out of context, often by juxtaposition of two pieces of information that don't belong together." It was by turning such bogus intelligence into talking points for U.S. officials‚ -- including ominous lines in speeches by President Bush and Vice President Cheney, along with Secretary of State Colin Powell's testimony at the U.N. Security Council last February‚ -- that the administration pushed American public opinion into supporting an unnecessary war.

Until now, the story of how the Bush administration produced its wildly exaggerated estimates of the threat posed by Iraq has never been revealed in full.
But, for the first time, a detailed investigation by Mother Jones, based on dozens of interviews‚ -- some on the record, some with officials who insisted on anonymity‚ -- exposes the workings of a secret Pentagon intelligence unit and of the Defense Department's war-planning task force, the Office of Special Plans. It's the story of a close-knit team of ideologues who spent a decade or more hammering out plans for an attack on Iraq and who used the events of September 11, 2001, to set it into motion.
...more...
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:59 PM
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7. "And of course, the Office of Special Plans
was using its friendly backchannel to the Office of the Vice President to advise him that in the absence of reliable human intelligence regarding Iraq, the best policy would be a truly conservative one. The OSP surely told the Vice President that Iraq was in no position to threaten either her neighbors or the United States, and that containment of Saddam Hussein was working.

Isn’t that how you all remember it?"


What a relief--I thought it was just me! Wasn't the OSP formed precisely to bypass the CIA and come up with their OWN intelligence? Why hasn't there been an investigation of THEM?

:headbang:
rocknation
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:20 PM
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8. OSP
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:28 PM
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10. January 19 Article
Link not working

I'll see if I can find it somewhere else
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:30 PM
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11. Here it is
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Stone_Spirits Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 10:30 PM
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16. thank you
the first "Conservative" article linked to the next two, but the third still didn't work. Thanks for the link!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:38 PM
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12. Some say our leaders were fooled...
I feel the Seantors and Congresspeople who voted for the killing and the patriot act were traitors. They voted to kill so as not to disappoint or alienate their constitutencies. So do we critize their constituents? Or them? All they had to do was read what we read and pick up on all the signals and facts we picked up on.

They should quit in shame.

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:46 PM
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13. Most Dems in Congress
Agreed with the invasion of Iraq and still want to stay the course Kerry and Edwards incl.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:55 PM
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14. Careful, now, libertarian-haters. Look at her tagline.
You're welcome to come on over to the dark side.

BTW, Luke, I'm your father.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 05:51 AM
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17. big KICK
:kick:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:00 AM
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19. Good post, right on the money.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:42 AM
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20. a snippet
for those who don't feel like clicking on the link (though I'd highly recommend it because there is a wealth of links within the article)

Bagged and Tagged!

by Karen Kwiatkowski

The Senate has gingerly examined, apparently for the first time, what the CIA told them two years ago. Before this, they didn’t have time to question, to peruse, to use common sense, perhaps even to read what the CIA reports said and not just follow blindly the commands of the majority whip and our wild-eyed President.

Its preliminary report indicates that much of the information was bad, and blames the CIA. The CIA was a victim of groupthink; it "interpret ambiguous elements . . . as conclusive evidence…"; its corporate culture is broken. Ouch!

The CIA wasn’t pressured by anyone, either. It just produced boatloads of bulls%*t all on its own. Wrong, unreasonable, made no sense, by the boatload.

Normal people (this apparently excludes most members of Congress) would wonder why you would believe anything from the CIA or DIA on Iraq anyway, given we had had no real in-country assets or visibility for years. Not even a military attaché, or a tiny hovel of a CIA station in Baghdad or Basra. Last CIA agent we had in Ba-ath country was an illegal member of the Hans Blix team.

..more,,
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peace4all Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 02:51 PM
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21. amazing article
Karen Kwiatkowski is awesome.
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